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May 27, 2026, 12:13:48 PM
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I'm quite surprised that you came to debate the undebatable. If you consider the arithmetic and economics rounding this, you will know that the US has significantly low trade crossing that path via water, which invariably means Trump will weigh the option as "not much" in latter effect compared to how it would have affected the US if the trade dependence is high. But the problem is that you are only looking at the present.
I am not saying US will be bother, I am saying that if they think the toll or environmental protection fee will not affect them, they are deceiving themselves. It will affect the US through international trade dynamics, supply chain expenses, and global market competition. You said it will affect you and I but you exclude the US.

US import 2.5% oil through the Strait but import 20% of fertilizers through the Strait.

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May 27, 2026, 07:35:15 PM
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They should give this to Iran just to let it go and end the war. I am sure that the shipping vessels and companies that are passing through there would be happy to comply.
You think vessels passing an international waterway would be happy to be extorted in millions of dollars, how can you imagine such a thing, who likes extortion? Only those imposing it i'm sure. I don't understand how many of you don't know that this is a terrible proposal that benefits nobody, other than Iran.

It also sets a dangerous precedent, i mean, if Iran is allowed to extort vessels at sea, what stops other countries that border important international route/passage from doing the same?
Yeah, you're right it doesn't make sense. And I thought that it's just some environmental fee that is cheap. I just have realized it that I was wrong.

They should give this to Iran just to let it go and end the war. I am sure that the shipping vessels and companies that are passing through there would be happy to comply.
Nope that will not happen. Also, we don't know if the war will end if this "fee" will push through. Do you also expect that those ships out there will comply? If this happens then it will affect the whole oil industry and the price of oil around the world will permanently increase in prices.

This "fee" thing that the Iran will get will have a domino effect towards other countries. Oil price will increase, and so are the goods, and everything that depends on Oil.
Both of you are right because what's on my mind is that just give their demand and let's see the war ends. But I was wrong and assuming in good faith that they'll do that. We've seen how they have been asking for such high demands and no one isn't going to pay so much in that money. It made me realized that you are right that this is also going to be put in top of the oil they bought and we'll also be affected by these fees because oil will be more expensive that comes from that region.


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