Topic autolock

[Oshosondy]

I have seen some people that forgot to lock topic when they said that they want to lock it, this can happen to anyone because they might forgot or sleep and forgot the next day to lock the topic.

I posted a topic today which I said I will lock when it has 10 replies, but I am about to sleep and it has just 3 replies yet. If there is autolock topic feature, I can just set it to 10, for the topic to lock automatically after 10 replies.

It can be a minimum of at least 20 posts before the topic is locked, which can let people just set it to 20, so that after 20 posts the topic will automatically lock by itself.

[mcdouglasx]

I'm just curious why you would want to lock a post after a certain number of replies. Let's say the information given by the first 10 people is incomplete, or even false. It could give the impression that you've considered the thread resolved. Or, if the post requires more messages than usual, you'd be condemning the thread to having to wait for you to reinstate it. And if you're not around, users might continue the topic by creating new threads, which wouldn't be very organic.

[Dareo]

The biggest thing is that Bitcointalk is not a social media platform or a one way Q&A place, it is an discussion forum. If after opening a topic here, it is auto locked as soon as 10 or 20 replies arrive, then how will you know that the discussion is over or that you have received a proper answer to the topic? However the opportunity for other members to have free discussion or constructive criticism  will be closed midway.
If someone find that the topic should be locked. I think a better way is to inform the topic owner (OP) via PM to lock the topic or can be added a button to request to lock the topic, so moderator can easily lock the topic

[Oshosondy]

I'm just curious why you would want to lock a post after a certain number of replies. Let's say the information given by the first 10 people is incomplete, or even false. It could give the impression that you've considered the thread resolved. Or, if the post requires more messages than usual, you'd be condemning the thread to having to wait for you to reinstate it. And if you're not around, users might continue the topic by creating new threads, which wouldn't be very organic.

The biggest thing is that Bitcointalk is not a social media platform or a one way Q&A place, it is an discussion forum. If after opening a topic here, it is auto locked as soon as 10 or 20 replies arrive, then how will you know that the discussion is over or that you have received a proper answer to the topic? However the opportunity for other members to have free discussion or constructive criticism  will be closed midway.
If someone find that the topic should be locked. I think a better way is to inform the topic owner (OP) via PM to lock the topic or can be added a button to request to lock the topic, so moderator can easily lock the topic

This is the topic, you can read it:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5584098.msg66766180#msg66766180

I said on this my meta topic that it can be a minimum of 20 topics. I think page 1 can be enough for most topics on this forum. Also if the forum admin are considering to do it, they can make it 40 or 50 minimum post before the topic is automatically locked.

If there is no proper answer, the person can unlock it and bump it.

[Findingnemo]

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I said on this my meta topic that it can be a minimum of 20 topics. I think page 1 can be enough for most topics on this forum. Also if the forum admin are considering to do it, they can make it 40 or 50 minimum post before the topic is automatically locked.

I agree that 90% of the topics will reach a satisfactory answer in the first page itself but Bitcointalk is not just like Q&A, it is a discussion forum so the number of replies to lock the topic can vary highly, and look at WO, it has 35K pages and still counting, while the real discussion happens.

And if you think locking the topic will reduce the spam, then I doubt it because people will just create new ones just to reach enough for their weekly quota.

So  the topic starter should take the responsibility of locking the topic.

[Charles-Tim]

And if you think locking the topic will reduce the spam, then I doubt it because people will just create new ones just to reach enough for their weekly quota.

You are right, I noticed this a lot on the gambling board, but not locked. The thread have more than 10 to 20 pages already, they will stop replying there and start another new thread, but if the same or very similar topic. Although, there are some topics that may be locked and no new topic will be created for it within a short time.

[Btcdeybodi]

How can you say that after a specific number of replies that you have in mind that your thread should be auto locked. It doesn't make any sense to me. If you create a thread and few persons have already made replies that you as the OP is satisfied with, why wait until it reaches 10 replies or 20 replies before considering to lock it. The most reason why people lock their thread is to avoid spamming especially when they are satisfied with the replies of people so i see no reason for an auto lock feature. Perhaps, you still have the privilege to make your thread self-moderated such that if the replies of users exceeds your expectation, you can just delete some of the replies without anyone questioning the reason for your action.

[coinlary]

For your  Case OP,  I'm  not sure if Topic auto lock is really the right thing, you could get an unsatisfactory comments yet your  thread  still gets  locked and you will have to open it once again when you wake up . Doesn't solve anything like that, the only solution is to make your thread self-moderated so you can clean your thread.

Nevertheless, I think the auto lock can help in some cases with contest(like the pizza) and all sort of games and rounds thread where OPs always need to lock their thread at a specific schedule date and time.

[SuperBitMan]

If you create a thread to get answer about a particular thing you can actually get the answer with the first person that replies you and again 10 to 20 persons may reply to your thread to answer your question but they really are not giving you the real answer you want and let say you have already used an auto lock on it and it got locked without answering your question so you will come back and then unlock it so you can get the answer you want, so why going through all that meanwhile you can just hold on till you get your answer and maybe lock the thread yourself to prevent things from being complicated.
Some functions being done manually are better an example is locking your thread.

[Zaguru12]

You are right, I noticed this a lot on the gambling board, but not locked. The thread have more than 10 to 20 pages already, they will stop replying there and start another new thread, but if the same or very similar topic. Although, there are some topics that may be locked and no new topic will be created for it within a short time.

Yes it’s common on that board because of some signature campaign rules. There are some mangers who actually do not like mega threads on gambling or even other boards with posts after certain numbers of pages in a thread not been counted. Then what most members do is create similar threads to start new pages so they can make their posts actually been counted. It’s the reason why that Board is usually the board with most deleted threads. So it is a deliberate when you see those new threads

For your  Case OP,  I'm  not sure if Topic auto lock is really the right thing, you could get an unsatisfactory comments yet your  thread  still gets  locked and you will have to open it once again when you wake up . Doesn't solve anything like that, the only solution is to make your thread self-moderated so you can clean your thread.

I also agree with you that if you want more control of your thread that it should be a self moderated thread from the start. I have even noticed that Self moderated Thread actually even sends off spammers away because you will see them not even attempting to actually post there

[KingsDen]

The auto lock idea is a beautiful one but I don't think the implementation will be possible in this SMF software.

As someone who had laid his hands in coding, this is not a simple line of code. When I didn't know about coding, I really thought every idea is possible to implement. But when I saw how demanding it used to be in order to make this work, I stopped imagining many things. Although it might be simple this AI advent, but it wasn't simple for me then.

But I can say that if you want to lock a thread after like 20 replies, and forgot. Whenever you remember or woke from sleep you can still lock the thread. Even if it exceeds the 20 replies, you can just read the first 20 and ignore the rest.
If theymos begins to implement every idea, the forum will be bulky and work load will be much on him.

[PX-Z]

It's impractical, and healthy discussion in this forum will be affected. Even if many topics are already abandoned by the OP, auto-locking threads after a fixed number of replies is impractical. A good discussion can continue even without the OP being active anymore, especially in technical or opinion based boards where other users keep contributing useful information. It would only encourage unnecessary "Part 2" or "duplicate topics" and split discussions all over the forum.

If the concern is the OP forgetting it when they explicitly say they will lock it after whatever reasons they have, you can report the thread and request to lock it by quoting the OP's post.

[OcTradism]

I have seen some people that forgot to lock topic when they said that they want to lock it, this can happen to anyone because they might forgot or sleep and forgot the next day to lock the topic.

I posted a topic today which I said I will lock when it has 10 replies, but I am about to sleep and it has just 3 replies yet. If there is autolock topic feature, I can just set it to 10, for the topic to lock automatically after 10 replies.

It can be a minimum of at least 20 posts before the topic is locked, which can let people just set it to 20, so that after 20 posts the topic will automatically lock by itself.

You are the most topic spammer and feel like don't have time to lock your topics. That's insane. If you can spam with topic creation by yourself, you can spend even less time for locking your topics rather than asking for forum admins to code something for supporting your topic spamming.

I don't know it can be done by an user script from forum community members but surely the forum admins will never spend time for this function. Firstly, don't have time to code it, and secondly what can be done by user script should be prioritized rather than changing the forum software as it can result in security issues.

I'm just curious why you would want to lock a post after a certain number of replies.

Because he spammed with topics.

[alegotardo]

I have seen some people that forgot to lock topic when they said that they want to lock it, this can happen to anyone because they might forgot or sleep and forgot the next day to lock the topic.

I posted a topic today which I said I will lock when it has 10 replies, but I am about to sleep and it has just 3 replies yet. If there is autolock topic feature, I can just set it to 10, for the topic to lock automatically after 10 replies.

It can be a minimum of at least 20 posts before the topic is locked, which can let people just set it to 20, so that after 20 posts the topic will automatically lock by itself.

This is good and I believe the functionality could be expanded to others criteria, such as:
- Blocking after Y hours, X days or Z weeks... this flexibility allows for addressing a many topics and issues.
- It is also possible to condition this with results of polls, such as when a poll reaches a number of votes the topic is locked, or when one of the options reaches more than X percentage.

Its important to keep in mind that once a topic locked not even the OP can unlock it, so these criteria need to be very clear to whoever is imposing the automatic lock.

[Peanutswar]

In that, I guess it's the obligation of the original creator to lock the thread, but sometimes ive seen really people who came across in the forum, create a topic and then vanish forever and then the thread left.

I guess its more better if the thread is inactive without OP response after 120 days, this could be automatically locked because the system itself does not identify if the thread has already answered the question, or else you will report to the moderator to lock the thread.

Also, didn't see the benefit of having a limit of 10 replies but these replies does not answer your problem yet.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Let's admit that the OP's excuses are that he wants to block his open topic, but he can't because he forgot, or fell asleep, or lost the Internet, or something else...according to the list, these are the moments that mean nothing in a period of one or two days. You can always come back the next day, and if you want to close the topic, do it. Here the emphasis should be on whether the OP really wants the topic not to get a lot of spam. If we want something, we will do it, and we don't need to "reinvent the wheel" to do it with our hands, not with a machine "gun."

[Vod]

Also, didn't see the benefit of having a limit of 10 replies but these replies does not answer your problem yet.

I also don't see any benefit for auto locking a topic after a number of replies.   If anything it would make people post in haste.

You can always come back the next day, and if you want to close the topic, do it.

Maybe the OP can tell us an example of damage that could be done by allowing a topic to go past ten/xxx replies?

[IjawMan]

When an op creates a topic in search for answers and not just answers but the right ones, he can always filter the replies for himself base on what he is looking for as responded solution to his topic.

Just 10 replies may not give you the comprehensive solution  and that is what makes the idea of an auto lock feature a lazy one. You can always come back and lock your topic and take your time to filter through the replies to get the right answers to what you're looking for from curated discussions on it.

Assuming this feature is implemented it can deny many users who have gone back to diligently research on the problem of topic with the aim to come back to the topic with a comprehensive right suited answer, and only to realise they are late as the topic has been locked dew to it getting the numbers of replies the op wanted.

[Oshosondy]

You are the most topic spammer and feel like don't have time to lock your topics. That's insane. If you can spam with topic creation by yourself, you can spend even less time for locking your topics rather than asking for forum admins to code something for supporting your topic spamming.

Try to read what I posted on this thread and the link, you will probably understand. I did not want that thread to be more than 10 posts because I want to create a new thread today about prediction markets. I want to make it a single thread because I know there are more new information about the markets. There is another one already as Trump sided CFTC 

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116642964849373081

For your information, I am creating the topic today. You can report it as spam.

You can always come back the next day, and if you want to close the topic, do it.

Maybe the OP can tell us an example of damage that could be done by allowing a topic to go past ten/xxx replies?

I used to topic just to ask if there is a topic that we can discuss about prediction markets. I waited awhile, but I wanted to sleep at the time. In the same topic, was also news about Spain banned Polymarket and Kalshi.

If I create another topic for it, we are still going to discuss the same thing which is the reason I want the topic to be locked fast, but I wanted to sleep at the time.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5584098.msg66766180#msg66766180

[Pmalek]

I wouldn't mind if Bitcointalk had such an option but I would personally not use it and I would hope most other users wouldn't either. It doesn't feel natural to me. The first reply can in theory be the best one and not require anything else. If your questions have been answered, you could lock it after the first quality reply. Also, if your threshold is 10 or 20, no one can guarantee you that the best reply wouldn't be the 11th or 21st post but your autolock feature prevented it.

I have a habit of visiting my Watchlist to see if there have been new replies in the threads I have started every time I visit the forum. If there are, I will check. Some of my threads are self-moderated, so I can delete spam and moderate the discussion anyway I want. Seeing the self-moderated tag above a thread usually deters spammers from posting there, especially if you make it a habit to delete shitposts.

If your goal is to stop spam, self-moderate your threads, visit them regularly, and delete spam posts.
Mods sometimes lock threads themselves if they feel like the discussions have stopped making sense or if the thread has fulfilled its reason for staying open.