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Author Topic: [ANN] AIDEN | 1st to use sCrypt-OG (GPU Optimized) [v0.10.2.2 Released 7/10/15]  (Read 235365 times)
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April 05, 2014, 03:48:07 PM
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is it cooler than x11?

cooler as in, needs to wear shades and drive a nice car?

OR cooler as in, the heat produced?

Cooler as in heat produced. It is summer soon. BUt since it is still spring maybe i could still mine without using an AC on. How much heat will it produce?

To be honest, I think if you are pushing your hardware to the max it will produce the same amount of heat.

whats the point then?

Higher hashrate, more security.

If you were to evenly match the cost of hashrates between Aiden, litecoin, and vertcoin
It would take less energy and heat to create 1 mh with aiden then it would the other two.

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April 05, 2014, 03:48:10 PM
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April 05, 2014, 03:49:00 PM
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can anyone please post a sample config insert ?
maybe for a amd r9 280x ?
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April 05, 2014, 03:49:49 PM
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Yet another algo(more like a variation) lets see how temps and power consumption are! Would like more specs please!

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April 05, 2014, 03:50:20 PM
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if its just scrypt N why dont use vertminer then?

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April 05, 2014, 03:50:39 PM
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April 05, 2014, 03:52:09 PM
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if its just scrypt N why dont use vertminer then?

If vertminer lets you manually set nfactor that would work fine.

Aiden is a variation of scrypt-n, its not adaptive, and is less memory intensive giving GPU's the ability to hash at higher rates.

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April 05, 2014, 03:58:57 PM
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if its just scrypt N why dont use vertminer then?

If vertminer lets you manually set nfactor that would work fine.

Aiden is a variation of scrypt-n, its not adaptive, and is less memory intensive giving GPU's the ability to hash at higher rates.
i'm not sure about vertminer I know sgminer does, so I understand why the need for sg

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April 05, 2014, 04:02:07 PM
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k i would love to partake in a new algo.. but every dl link i see for sgminer is like 14/51 on virustotal.. all false positives..? seems to be a lot. anyone got a clean version?


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April 05, 2014, 04:03:37 PM
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k i would love to partake in a new algo.. but every dl link i see for sgminer is like 14/51 on virustotal.. all false positives..? seems to be a lot. anyone got a clean version?



is the one at sgminerwindows.com giving the false positive?

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April 05, 2014, 04:08:35 PM
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k i would love to partake in a new algo.. but every dl link i see for sgminer is like 14/51 on virustotal.. all false positives..? seems to be a lot. anyone got a clean version?



is the one at sgminerwindows.com giving the false positive?

yea, 14 of em. as long as i hear testimony from people who have used it, i will feel fine. i know cgminer and all the other miners throw a few falsies as well. but i wouldn't wanna be the guinea pig for trying to run an app with 14 flags.

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April 05, 2014, 04:08:50 PM
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What is the password for the rar file?
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April 05, 2014, 04:10:11 PM
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k i would love to partake in a new algo.. but every dl link i see for sgminer is like 14/51 on virustotal.. all false positives..? seems to be a lot. anyone got a clean version?



is the one at sgminerwindows.com giving the false positive?

yea, 14 of em. as long as i hear testimony from people who have used it, i will feel fine. but i wouldn't wanna be the guinea pig for trying to run an app with 14 flags.

I use their compile on my mining rig, so in an isolated environment it seems fine. Alot of other people seem to testify for its safety in #vertsquad on freenode.

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April 05, 2014, 04:10:31 PM
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What is the password for the rar file?

"comebackat4pmest" no caps.

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April 05, 2014, 04:13:37 PM
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I'm afraid changing N from 1024 to 128 (N factor from 9 to 6) doesn't qualify as a really ASIC resistant thing.


litecoin is nfactor 10 or 1024
aiden is nfactor 6 or 64

And I answered that question already Tongue

Its currently asic resistant (due to cost to manufactor) but nothing is asic intolerant.

Really? Let's do some math.

Code: ("nfactor.c")
#include <stdio.h>

int main() {
    unsigned int n, nfactor;

    for(nfactor = 0; nfactor < 24; nfactor++) {
        n = (1 << (nfactor + 1));
        printf("n = %u, nfactor = %u\n", n, nfactor);
    }

    return(0);
}

And...

n = 2, nfactor = 0
n = 4, nfactor = 1
n = 8, nfactor = 2
n = 16, nfactor = 3
n = 32, nfactor = 4
n = 64, nfactor = 5
n = 128, nfactor = 6
n = 256, nfactor = 7
n = 512, nfactor = 8
n = 1024, nfactor = 9
n = 2048, nfactor = 10
n = 4096, nfactor = 11
n = 8192, nfactor = 12
n = 16384, nfactor = 13
n = 32768, nfactor = 14
n = 65536, nfactor = 15
n = 131072, nfactor = 16
n = 262144, nfactor = 17
n = 524288, nfactor = 18
n = 1048576, nfactor = 19
n = 2097152, nfactor = 20
n = 4194304, nfactor = 21
n = 8388608, nfactor = 22
n = 16777216, nfactor = 23

Your code requires less memory than regular Scrypt to operate. Only a trivial change in the ASIC firmware allows them to run your code. Do you really think it's a problem even for those programmable hybrid Gridseeds which can do even SHA-256 and Scrypt at the same time? Don't waste your and other people's time.

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April 05, 2014, 04:14:10 PM
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come chat in irc on freenode #aiden

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April 05, 2014, 04:14:55 PM
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I'm afraid changing N from 1024 to 128 (N factor from 9 to 6) doesn't qualify as a really ASIC resistant thing.


litecoin is nfactor 10 or 1024
aiden is nfactor 6 or 64

And I answered that question already Tongue

Its currently asic resistant (due to cost to manufactor) but nothing is asic intolerant.

Really? Let's do some math.

Code: ("nfactor.c")
#include <stdio.h>

int main() {
    unsigned int n, nfactor;

    for(nfactor = 0; nfactor < 24; nfactor++) {
        n = (1 << (nfactor + 1));
        printf("n = %u, nfactor = %u\n", n, nfactor);
    }

    return(0);
}

And...

n = 2, nfactor = 0
n = 4, nfactor = 1
n = 8, nfactor = 2
n = 16, nfactor = 3
n = 32, nfactor = 4
n = 64, nfactor = 5
n = 128, nfactor = 6
n = 256, nfactor = 7
n = 512, nfactor = 8
n = 1024, nfactor = 9
n = 2048, nfactor = 10
n = 4096, nfactor = 11
n = 8192, nfactor = 12
n = 16384, nfactor = 13
n = 32768, nfactor = 14
n = 65536, nfactor = 15
n = 131072, nfactor = 16
n = 262144, nfactor = 17
n = 524288, nfactor = 18
n = 1048576, nfactor = 19
n = 2097152, nfactor = 20
n = 4194304, nfactor = 21
n = 8388608, nfactor = 22
n = 16777216, nfactor = 23

Your code requires less memory than regular Scrypt to operate. Only a trivial change in the ASIC firmware allows them to run your code. Do you really think it's a problem even for those programmable hybrid Gridseeds which can do even SHA-256 and Scrypt at the same time? Don't waste your and other people's time.


Of course I think its a problem and why im offering this solution. haha.

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April 05, 2014, 04:18:26 PM
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Lets do some math real quick

open your calculator and do

2 to the 10th power and tell me what you get.

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April 05, 2014, 04:19:03 PM
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RE virustotal for that build of sgminer, most of those just look like standard flags that come up for any mining app. Example not-a-virus:RiskTool.Win32.BitCoinMiner.ocr. Would be nice if sgminer dev released an official windows binary. But I've used it with no problems.
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April 05, 2014, 04:23:45 PM
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is it cooler than x11?

cooler as in, needs to wear shades and drive a nice car?

OR cooler as in, the heat produced?

Cooler as in heat produced. It is summer soon. BUt since it is still spring maybe i could still mine without using an AC on. How much heat will it produce?

To be honest, I think if you are pushing your hardware to the max it will produce the same amount of heat.

whats the point then?

Higher hashrate, more security.

If you were to evenly match the cost of hashrates between Aiden, litecoin, and vertcoin
It would take less energy and heat to create 1 mh with aiden then it would the other two.

Not trying to be rude, but how is it more secure when everyone has an equal increase in hash-rate from the same hardware?
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