Don't overstate the importance of discipline (topic is not about the casino).

[nara1892]

That's right, discipline is not a way or strategy to win, the matter of winning still depends on luck, discipline is only one way to minimize losses and it also depends on how good and how good the plan you have made, if for example your planning is wrong then the possibility of your loss will still be big even though you are very disciplined in following the plan, so discipline is just a habit to keep following the plan and what determines the good or bad results is still the planning you have made.

[Dunamisx]

I know many people love to talk about discipline. Discipline is what helps you organize your gambling, and it certainly has its positive aspects. But I see that the importance of discipline is almost always exaggerated. I often read that a gambler lacked discipline to win. Or that they could have been a long-term winner if they had maintained discipline, which is difficult. People often associate discipline with self-abuse.

Being disciplined will give you limit to what you should do and not, it's a kind of ability that we can choose to develop by not going for everything we see in gambling has been good for us to take, if you are discipline, the risk you take will be minimized in gambling because you will not be exposed too much to those expensive moves that may cost you.

[letteredhub]

That's right, discipline is not a way or strategy to win, the matter of winning still depends on luck, discipline is only one way to minimize losses and it also depends on how good and how good the plan you have made, if for example your planning is wrong then the possibility of your loss will still be big even though you are very disciplined in following the plan, so discipline is just a habit to keep following the plan and what determines the good or bad results is still the planning you have made.

Even with discipline you can be able to manage and put to well use the profit you're lucky to make from a bet instead of trying to want to chase for more win which in most cases has resulted to the gambler who out of lack of discipline loses everything (bothe capital and profit) back to the house. Having a good plan is necessary and being disciplined to it too but even in good plans which I think you mean strategy, still, it doesn't guarantee that you can make profit if you are not lucky enough.

[purple_sparkles]

 I think discipline helps us move in the direction we truly want to go, and when it is missing, we can easily lose our way. Even when we try to follow a consistent plan, we may still slip up sometimes, and that is completely normal. Situations change, and so do we. Still, discipline is very important. Without it, we can gradually fall into a meaningless way of living. If during such a period we at least manage to stay at the same stable level, that is already good. But usually, what happens is that a person slowly declines both financially and mentally.

[KTChampions]

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But!!! Discipline says nothing about the wisdom and effectiveness of the rules it is intended to enforce. It may well turn out, over time, that the rules you followed were wrong and led to your losses. Therefore, I would recommend not to exaggerate the importance of discipline.

Correct reasoning with incorrect conclusion  
Let's say your strategy is wrong, then it really doesn't matter whether you're disciplined or not - you'll ultimately lose for other reasons. But what if you have the right (winning) strategy? A lack of discipline will also lead to your loss. I conclude from this that discipline is always necessary, in any case. It may not be important only in one specific case: you generally do not believe that a winning strategy exists.

[Antotena]

That's right, discipline is not a way or strategy to win, the matter of winning still depends on luck, discipline is only one way to minimize losses and it also depends on how good and how good the plan you have made, if for example your planning is wrong then the possibility of your loss will still be big even though you are very disciplined in following the plan, so discipline is just a habit to keep following the plan and what determines the good or bad results is still the planning you have made.

Some people take gambling too seriously that's why they over emphasize on making money than discipline. I just watch a video of a punter won $0.9 to $170k but unfortunately some games were void and there winning were drastically dropped to half of the money but I'm not even interested in the amount won but the amount he used to make that bet, I have not seen a gambler that is too discipline like that guy and you know what? He knows how to gamble.

If you put money before discipline, you will make nothing from gambling rather the casino will be talking from you. What I learn is that even if you have the money that you think you can afford to lose, don't throw that money on gambling, you will lose everything if you don't do have discipline. Your aim should be how you can use the smallest amount you can afford to lose to the casino and you are good to go.

[Die_empty]

Therefore, I would recommend not to exaggerate the importance of discipline.

The importance of discipline cannot be overemphasized. We don't obey rules made but other but also the ones that we make for ourselves. Many gamblers have gambling plans and budgets, but the problem is how to follow these plans. Discipline is needed to help us obey these rules so that we can gamble responsibly. It is also important to note that we don't follow rules because we like them. Rather, we obey these rules because it is for our own good. I want to gamble with a high amount so that I can win big. But my gambling budget restricts me from doing that, thats discipline.

[imthegreat]

I know many people love to talk about discipline. Discipline is what helps you organize your gambling, and it certainly has its positive aspects. But I see that the importance of discipline is almost always exaggerated. I often read that a gambler lacked discipline to win. Or that they could have been a long-term winner if they had maintained discipline, which is difficult. People often associate discipline with self-abuse.
But discipline is simply following the rules. Sometimes you have to force yourself to follow the rules (which you subconsciously dislike and don't want to adhere to); sometimes you often follow the rules out of habit, without any self-abuse, simply because you deeply believe in their effectiveness.
But!!! Discipline says nothing about the wisdom and effectiveness of the rules it is intended to enforce. It may well turn out, over time, that the rules you followed were wrong and led to your losses. Therefore, I would recommend not to exaggerate the importance of discipline.

This is an absolutely correct conclusion, as the combination of discipline and the right strategy will lead to success. However, it's important to note that not all gambling games are subject to player influence, as only card games are considered such. Discipline is also required in other types of gambling, but in them, this discipline is economic (not losing all your money in one sitting). In poker, for example, discipline will also dictate the gambler's needs, such as learning new approaches and analyzing their actions in card games. In general, your statements are true for all forms of gambling.

[AmaGold70]

As a gambler, maintaining discipline is very much necessary, because it will make you a responsible gambler, and also make you not to regret engaging in gambling. Like I know, being a disciplined gambler doesn't mean you will not loose a bet or even experience long term losses, but will keep you away from abusing gambling, and therefore become irresponsible.
A disciplined gambler will always can only gamble with what he or she can afford to loose, a disciplined gambler will always manage there time very well, and not allowing gambling  to take the time they are surposed to spend on other important activities, a disciplined gambler will not allow gambling to interfere with their family, these are some of the qualities of a disciplined gambler, and not being on long term wins.

[Somegory]

Discipline isn't the answer to constant wins in gambling, strategy isn't also the answer to constant wins in gambling, and the truth still stands that gambling is all about luck.

The only thing that discipline will do for you and me is saving ourselves from going bankrupt all because we are gambling, discipline is what will keep you in checked, making sure that you aren't too exposed to risks.

Every gamblers do gambles but many of them lack that safety orientation, they want to make money and they are doing all they can, something they should have done with bonds, stocks, real estate and others.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

Discipline is not what makes a gambler to win or to become successful long term but self discipline reduces the chance of becoming a reckless gambling, reduces the risk of losing above your target. For example, if you had $500 in your bankroll and you told yourself that you are only going to spend $100 for that day in gambling, lack of self discipline can cause you to spend or lose all that money or more than your budget but if you are discipline and abides by your rules, you will spend just the amount you agreed to spend, that's the importance of discipline, it doesn't help you win, it helps you stay afloat.

[Lannakosa]

Discipline is not what makes a gambler to win or to become successful long term but self discipline reduces the chance of becoming a reckless gambling, reduces the risk of losing above your target. For example, if you had $500 in your bankroll and you told yourself that you are only going to spend $100 for that day in gambling, lack of self discipline can cause you to spend or lose all that money or more than your budget but if you are discipline and abides by your rules, you will spend just the amount you agreed to spend, that's the importance of discipline, it doesn't help you win, it helps you stay afloat.

Losing 20% of your deposit in a single day is still a lot. Just five days like that, and a $500 bankroll would be completely gone. Of course, it’s better than losing all $500 in one day, but it still won’t really save you. Discipline should probably help you avoid those days when you do nothing but lose. In other words, the overall number of wins and losses should stay in some kind of balance, so that the losses do not greatly outweigh the wins. If gambling only results in losses, then you are definitely doing something wrong.

[Doan9269]

Being discipline will tell you what to do and notes at a particular time, gambling could be tempting, but we must have the ability to control our emotion in it, because sometimes we don't have to be moved by how we feels like in gambling, some of these may lead to unwanted situations and we should have control over ourselves, take gambling as fun and nothing more in order to avoid much risk ahead of you, we are mostly going to enjoy gambling when we see it as an entertainment than when we have much expectation on it.

[Agbe]

People who have a high risk of developing gambling addiction need discipline. So that such people do not lose everything they have or still owe creditors. In other words, discipline in following the rules protects the gambler from catastrophic loss, but it does not help to win at all. Because winning is enviable only from luck (in the casino). In what respect can such rules be wrong?

It is not only those people but every gambler needs discipline, because it is the discipline that help you to overcome things that would empty your wallet. Those who are addicted can use the discipline to control their habit and reduce their gambling behavior. And those who are not yet addicted should use discipline to maintain their status quo. So all need it in one way to another.

[Samlucky O]

Surely decipline should not be over exaggerated since it has the capacity to leed or mislead, but however we can still chose the decipline that works in our favor. Let's say if you are so deciplined that it goes against your wish or gambling strategy, but somehow it help you achieve wining, then that decipline proves to be good since it is profitable. Therefore it can not be seen as overly exaggerated because it doesn't mislead such gambler.

[Rockson1]

Discipline is not what makes a gambler to win or to become successful long term but self discipline reduces the chance of becoming a reckless gambling, reduces the risk of losing above your target. For example, if you had $500 in your bankroll and you told yourself that you are only going to spend $100 for that day in gambling, lack of self discipline can cause you to spend or lose all that money or more than your budget but if you are discipline and abides by your rules, you will spend just the amount you agreed to spend, that's the importance of discipline, it doesn't help you win, it helps you stay afloat.

Discipline help in gambling but we should understand it's role so that we do not give it another role that is different from what it does, Discipline in gambling helps us to maintain being responsible while gambling, self control is the work of discipline, abiding by the roles of gambling with what you can actually forget easily when you lose are just part of discipline but what we cannot give to discipline is winning which you have throw more light on, winning in gambling is mainly a thing of luck or strategy but when it comes to strategy, we we should kwmk that it may not be sustained for a long-term, your example to what discipline implies is carried so no need for me to go further.

[YOSHIE]

But!!! Discipline says nothing about the wisdom and effectiveness of the rules it is intended to enforce.

Sometimes I can't understand the concept of discipline in gambling, I often see the words discipline often misinterpreted by most gamblers, many of us think discipline is the key or strategy for winning at gambling, In fact, this is not the case, in fact gambling is designed with a system in such a way that the provider always wins in every game.

On the contrary, if every individual gets used to discipline in gambling, the opposite will happen, discipline will be one of the main doors for gamblers to enter the addiction stage, in fact what I see is that those who are disciplined actually get stressed easily and that is also the stage leading to depression.

I am aware and understand that the gambling arena is that if I purely prioritize or rely on luck and probability factors, no matter how great your discipline is, you cannot beat the mathematics of gambling.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

Discipline is not what makes a gambler to win or to become successful long term but self discipline reduces the chance of becoming a reckless gambling, reduces the risk of losing above your target. For example, if you had $500 in your bankroll and you told yourself that you are only going to spend $100 for that day in gambling, lack of self discipline can cause you to spend or lose all that money or more than your budget but if you are discipline and abides by your rules, you will spend just the amount you agreed to spend, that's the importance of discipline, it doesn't help you win, it helps you stay afloat.

Losing 20% of your deposit in a single day is still a lot. Just five days like that, and a $500 bankroll would be completely gone. Of course, it’s better than losing all $500 in one day, but it still won’t really save you. Discipline should probably help you avoid those days when you do nothing but lose. In other words, the overall number of wins and losses should stay in some kind of balance, so that the losses do not greatly outweigh the wins.

There are always sessions where you can not escape losing streak, even if you take a break and come back later, you still might continue losing, players don't have control of when to lose and when to win but you only win if luck is on your side, so losses most of the time outweighs wins, you can't keep a balance between both except you completely stop gambling for that day if you have lost a certain percent of your total deposit. If you said you don't want to lose more than $20 a day, then you can stop after you have played and lose the $20 without winning more than that amount.

If gambling only results in losses, then you are definitely doing something wrong.

That's true, no matter how unlucky someone is, there is always sessions when they will also experience a winning streak but over all, the house edge is designed to favour the house more than players, that's why there will always be more losses than wins except you luckily win a jackpots.

[Hispo]

I would rather to talk about discipline when there is a direct correlation between ones discipline and the outcome we can get from whatever we do, to be honest. That is not the case of gambling, it does not matter how disciplined we are, we are still very likely to lose money...

Well, I’d probably agree with you to some extent, especially with the point that discipline by itself cannot remove the mathematical advantage of the casino, particularly in the long run.
But I still think discipline shouldn’t be reduced only to controlling the size of losses. It also affects a player’s behavior: not increasing bets after a losing streak, not trying to chase losses immediately, setting limits in advance, and knowing when to stop.

And I think in real practice, many people don’t lose only because of casino math - they mainly lose because of emotions. We must remember that the biggest damage doesn’t come from the original loss itself, it comes from trying to win it back at any cost, and that’s where the real problem starts. So I’d say maybe discipline definitely doesn’t beat the casino, but it can protect players from their own impulsive decisions.

I think we disagree in that aspect of what discipline is capable of, I guess.
You say that losses do not come only because of the math behind the casino, that there is also an emotional factor which plays an important role in the accumulation of losses by reckless gamblers. Emotions certainly affect one's losses, but all those losses (big or small, emotionless or driven by emotions) are essentially a result of the edge of the house.

Let us assume during a single session the edge of the house was negative, and very small, so it is in favor of the gambler, etc us say 0,5%. Your emotions, your discipline or your recklessness would not matter at all, because you would actually be guaranteed to make money of your session, you would just need to gamble for hours.

The edge of the house is the center and nucleus of losses and all losses are tied to it.

[Wakate]

Discipline is one of the factors of being a responsible gambler that can never be underestimated.
For you to stay away from gambling for too long or gambling always, you need to make sure that you gamble responsibly and that is possible when you are a disciplined gamblers. Being disciplined is the only way to over addiction.