Russia is surely sacrificing long term prosperity for prolonged war!

[arwin100]

Is there any recent generation where there has been no war? 

According to my little history that I studied, I don't remember any. To me, I think one of the human traits is war (fighting) for power, resources and territories. So don't say that our generation is unfortunate. The wars have always been there. The sad reality is constant loss of lives, displacement of people and disruption of economies.

You are right, maybe I was being a little selfish assuming our generation is somehow more unlucky than those before us when it comes to war. Because looking back at history, there has never been a generation that truly lived in complete peace.
Since WWII, the world has become less violent in scale, but under American dominance, hundreds of wars, large and small have still taken place.

War has never truly disappeared. It has always been a part of human history and human development.

Could you provide a list here of the "hundreds of wars started by the U.S." since World War II? Preferably with examples of when they occupied or seized foreign territories? In response, I’ll provide a list of wars started by the USSR/Russia. Oh, and let’s “forget” that it was Germany, together with the USSR, that started World War II against the will of the world, shall we?

I'm not an American but what I found about wars started by US is here https://worldhistoryedu.com/times-the-u-s-has-formally-declared-war

Also how many times the Congress declare a war https://historyfacts.com/us-history/fact/congress-declared-war-how-many-times

If we talk about hundreds intervention Wikipedia had a good information about this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_interventions_by_the_United_States

[DrBeer]

Is there any recent generation where there has been no war? 

According to my little history that I studied, I don't remember any. To me, I think one of the human traits is war (fighting) for power, resources and territories. So don't say that our generation is unfortunate. The wars have always been there. The sad reality is constant loss of lives, displacement of people and disruption of economies.

You are right, maybe I was being a little selfish assuming our generation is somehow more unlucky than those before us when it comes to war. Because looking back at history, there has never been a generation that truly lived in complete peace.
Since WWII, the world has become less violent in scale, but under American dominance, hundreds of wars, large and small have still taken place.

War has never truly disappeared. It has always been a part of human history and human development.

Could you provide a list here of the "hundreds of wars started by the U.S." since World War II? Preferably with examples of when they occupied or seized foreign territories? In response, I’ll provide a list of wars started by the USSR/Russia. Oh, and let’s “forget” that it was Germany, together with the USSR, that started World War II against the will of the world, shall we?

I'm not an American but what I found about wars started by US is here https://worldhistoryedu.com/times-the-u-s-has-formally-declared-war

Also how many times the Congress declare a war https://historyfacts.com/us-history/fact/congress-declared-war-how-many-times

If we talk about hundreds intervention Wikipedia had a good information about this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_interventions_by_the_United_States

Thank you for the information!
First of all, let me clarify-I do not condone outright aggression; I am against violence. Moreover, my country has been the victim of a bloody terrorist war unleashed by a neighboring country without any objective justification.

Now let’s return to your statement: "Since WWII, the world has become less violent in scale, but under American dominance, hundreds of wars, large and small, have still taken place".
What’s so special about this period? World War II ended-a war launched against the entire world by Nazi Germany and the Communist USSR in 1939. I think you will deny this fact, which many people dislike, and in the USSR and the Russian Federation, it has been completely “erased from history,” leaving only the so-called "Great Patriotic War of 1941–1945". This was done deliberately to conceal the USSR’s role in this global bloodbath and to "transform" the USSR from the instigator of the war into its victim.

So, Germany was destroyed, and the USSR gained enormous influence in Europe, essentially occupying (and installing its own governments in) a large number of countries.
The world became bipolar: on one side was the Western world, led by the United States, and on the other was the "socialist world", led by the USSR. A confrontation begins. Both countries engage in a "struggle for influence". Neither side came up with anything new, aside from essentially engineering regime changes in countries where the other side was attempting to establish its own regime. Directly or indirectly, these were "interactions" aimed specifically at bringing a particular territory under their control.
Now let’s examine all of this in more detail.
The United States
The Korean War (1950–1953)
Official reason: To fulfill the UN mandate to repel North Korea’s aggression against sovereign South Korea; to restore peace and security on the peninsula.
Vietnam War (1965–1973-direct participation) Official reason: To assist South Vietnam in its fight against "communist aggression" from the North; to defend the sovereignty of an ally within the framework of the "domino theory" (preventing Asia from falling under communist control).
Invasion of Grenada (1983) Official reason: To ensure the safety of American citizens (primarily medical students) following a coup d’état on the island, as well as to restore constitutional order.
Invasion of Panama (1989) Official reason: To protect the lives of U.S. citizens in the Panama Canal Zone, combat international drug trafficking (the arrest of dictator Manuel Noriega), and restore democracy.
The Gulf War (1991) Official reason: To enforce a UN Security Council resolution to liberate Kuwait from Iraq’s illegal occupation and restore stability in the region.
Intervention in Yugoslavia / War in Kosovo (1999) Official reason: "Humanitarian intervention" aimed at stopping ethnic cleansing in Kosovo and forcing Belgrade to make peace.
War in Afghanistan (2001–2021) Official reason: A response to the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks; the destruction of the Al-Qaeda terrorist organization’s base and the overthrow of the Taliban regime that was harboring them.
Iraq War (2003–2011) Official reason: To eliminate weapons of mass destruction (WMD) allegedly being developed by Saddam Hussein, as well as to dismantle his ties to international terrorism.
Intervention in Libya (2011) Official reason: To protect the civilian population of Libya from violence by Muammar Gaddafi’s regime in accordance with UN Security Council Resolution 1973

Military campaigns of the USSR / Russian Federation
Moscow’s official justifications during the Soviet period were based on "fulfilling an international duty" and "defending socialist achievements". In the modern Russian period, they are based on "protecting compatriots", "peacekeeping", and "ensuring national security".

Suppression of the Hungarian Uprising (1956) Official reason: To assist the Hungarian government in restoring order and defending the people’s democratic system against a "fascist rebellion" and counterrevolution.
Invasion of Czechoslovakia (1968) Official reason: To defend the socialist system in the Czechoslovak Socialist Republic from a "creeping counterrevolution" and external NATO intervention (under the so-called "Brezhnev Doctrine").
Ethiopian–Somali War / War over the Ogaden (1977–1978): Direct participation of Soviet military advisers and Cuban troops on the side of Ethiopia. Official reason: To provide international assistance to a victim of aggression by Somalia.
War of Attrition between Egypt and Israel (1969–1970): Deployment of a large contingent of Soviet air defense forces and fighter aircraft in Egypt. Official reason: To assist a friendly Arab state in repelling Israeli air aggression.
The Afghan War (1979–1989) Official reason: Fulfilling an international obligation under the Soviet-Afghan Treaty, as well as an official request from the Afghan leadership for assistance in combating externally supported insurgents.
The First and Second Chechen Wars (1994–1996 / 1999–2009) Official reason: Restoration of constitutional order in the Chechen Republic; combating illegal armed groups, separatism, and international terrorism.
War in Georgia / Five-Day War (2008) Official reason: A "peace enforcement operation" by the Georgian side; protection of the civilian population of South Ossetia (many of whom held Russian passports) and Russian peacekeepers from Georgian aggression.
Military Operation in Syria (since 2015) Official reason: An official request from the legitimate President of Syria, Bashar al-Assad, for assistance in combating international terrorist groups (in particular, ISIS).
Invasion of Ukraine (2014–present) Official reason: In 2014 (Crimea and Donbas), the stated goal was "protecting the Russian-speaking population and compatriots". Since February 2022 (full-scale war), the stated objectives have been the "demilitarization" and "denazification" of Ukraine, the protection of the Donbas republics, and the elimination of military threats to Russia’s security posed by NATO


Active participation:
Military operation in Syria (since 2015)
Central African Republic (CAR) (since 2018)
Civil war in Mali (since 2021)
Burkina Faso and Niger (since 2024)
Civil war in Sudan (since 2017, with interruptions)


Local wars and interventions (1989–1990s)
Events in Tbilisi, Baku, and Vilnius (1989–1991) Official reason: Restoring constitutional order, suppressing mass unrest, and protecting state facilities and Soviet legislation by the Internal Troops and the Soviet Army.
The War in Transnistria (1992) Official reason: To separate the conflicting parties (Moldova and the Transnistrian Moldovan Republic) using the 14th Guards Army of the Russian Federation, to protect the civilian population, and to stop the bloodshed as part of a peacekeeping mandate.
Civil War in Tajikistan (1992–1997) Official reason: To safeguard the southern borders of the CIS (the border with Afghanistan), stabilize the situation in the region, and protect the Russian-speaking population through the 201st Motorized Rifle Division.
The Georgian-Abkhaz War (1992–1993) Official reason: Officially, Russia acted as a mediator and peacekeeper; however, Russian military units were deployed to the conflict zone to "protect military facilities and ensure the safe evacuation of civilians".
Operation "Ring" (1991) Official reason: Conducted by the Soviet Army and the Internal Troops of the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs, jointly with the Azerbaijani OMON. The official stated goal was to "disarm illegal Armenian armed groups" in Nagorno-Karabakh.
The Second Karabakh War (2020) and subsequent events. Official reason: After the signing of the trilateral statement in November 2020, Russia deployed a contingent. The official reason was "the deployment of a Russian peacekeeping contingent to monitor the ceasefire and military operations".

Proxy Wars

Chinese Civil War (1945–1949): The USSR supported Mao Zedong
Angolan Civil War (1975–2002): The USSR and Cuba supported the Marxist MPLA movement
Civil Wars in El Salvador and Nicaragua (1980s): The USSR supplied leftist forces (the Sandinistas)

Comparison of the nature of wars waged by the U.S. and Russia:
As we can see, the U.S. more often acts within the framework of official coalitions (NATO or multinational forces), relying on UN resolutions (or bypassing them, as in Iraq in 2003), with extensive press coverage. After the collapse of the USSR, Russia divided its wars into official large-scale conflicts (Chechnya, Georgia, Syria, Ukraine) and "gray" proxy campaigns (Libya, the Sahel countries). In the latter, military operations are conducted to gain control over resources, to geopolitically displace the West, and to establish footholds-but without the state legally acknowledging casualties or its involvement to its own population. Are there really differences? And does everything become less clear-cut?

...and we haven’t even listed the numerous terrorist attacks in other countries yet—such as the assassination of the Polish delegation in Smolensk, the use of prohibited weapons against the civilian population, and similar crimes.

P.S. Data from open sources was used, as well as AI.

[tygeade]

It cannot be denied that this war is a heavy blow to Russia economy. It would be dishonest to say that their economy is stable or growing while being in a prolonged conflict lasting many years.

I cannot tell you how long they will drag this war out. But one fact is that they are still holding up after many year of conflict, instead of collapsing as the West predicted. And I think that if Nato does not want to end the war, Russia would hesitate to prolong it further. In the end, the longer the war continues, the greater the risk of Ukraine losing more territory.

Of course it is a huge blow, every war to every nation is a blow. Iran war was a blow to USA as well, or even Palestine war is hit to Israel, and in that case Israel is literally dominating and yet still things are getting more expensive there too.

So any time any nation goes to any war, economy will be impacted, there is no country in the world that goes into war, and comes out as its citizens richer. Don't get me wrong, the wealthy will get wealthier, the country may "steal oil" like USA always does etc, but that doesn't mean that citizens will benefit from it. We are going to end up with something that won't be pretty and it will not be helping out at all, we are going to see it not be that great for the citizens.

[Oshio-man]

You think Russia didn't feel the war that happened to them few years back, both Ukraine and Russia experienced what they have not experience in some years back because many investors and companies relocated to other countries where they can experience peace and improvement in their investment, the luck Russia government have is that surplus of oil in their land because it will going to boost their economy on time. Since there is no war for now apart from U.S and Iran that started their own but they are planning to embrace peace which is what people want from them to improve global economy.

[katanic97]

You think Russia didn't feel the war that happened to them few years back, both Ukraine and Russia experienced what they have not experience in some years back because many investors and companies relocated to other countries where they can experience peace and improvement in their investment, the luck Russia government have is that surplus of oil in their land because it will going to boost their economy on time. Since there is no war for now apart from U.S and Iran that started their own but they are planning to embrace peace which is what people want from them to improve global economy.

The global economy cannot truly progress while wars are ongoing. The consequences are felt everywhere, and their effects last for years. The war between Russia and Ukraine is a perfect example of how damaging a conflict can be to the economy.A huge amount of money is being sent to Ukraine to help it sustain the war effort, and that has been going on for a long time and will likely continue. Even if peace is achieved between the U.S. and Iran, it is hard to expect any major improvement in the global economy as long as other major conflicts remain unresolved

[abhiseshakana]

You think Russia didn't feel the war that happened to them few years back, both Ukraine and Russia experienced what they have not experience in some years back because many investors and companies relocated to other countries where they can experience peace and improvement in their investment, the luck Russia government have is that surplus of oil in their land because it will going to boost their economy on time. Since there is no war for now apart from U.S and Iran that started their own but they are planning to embrace peace which is what people want from them to improve global economy.

The global economy cannot truly progress while wars are ongoing. The consequences are felt everywhere, and their effects last for years. The war between Russia and Ukraine is a perfect example of how damaging a conflict can be to the economy.A huge amount of money is being sent to Ukraine to help it sustain the war effort, and that has been going on for a long time and will likely continue. Even if peace is achieved between the U.S. and Iran, it is hard to expect any major improvement in the global economy as long as other major conflicts remain unresolved

As Henry Kissinger's Creed Who control food supply control the people and who control energy can control whole continents. During Iran, US, Israel conflictm, mostly focused on energy security but many forget about food security. if the conflict is prolonged, we should be more worried about foodsupply than the lack of energy. Beside as energy supplier center, middle east also center of world fertilizer supplier. Disruption on these region and fertilizer trade route can pararelly bring agricultural and food problems especially country which depend on import. For country which has large scale fertilizer import, food import and have food and agricultural subsidies is the country most vulnerable to impact.

[SUPERSAIAN]

Wars have no winners. They have negative consequences for the West, and for Russia. The West is experiencing gas and resource shortages. Russia has secured itself it has its own resources and production, but its isolation from the outside world is not good and cannot be sustained. I hope the war ends soon. I hope people can live comfortably and continue to prosper.

[colinistheman]

Wars have no winners. They have negative consequences for the West, and for Russia. The West is experiencing gas and resource shortages. Russia has secured itself it has its own resources and production, but its isolation from the outside world is not good and cannot be sustained. I hope the war ends soon. I hope people can live comfortably and continue to prosper.

Yes, there are no real winners in war. There is only damage, destruction, and the loss of human lives that can never truly be replaced. Regardless of which side claims victory, the final price is always paid in lives and consequences that can last for generation.
Unfortunately, politicians and those obsessed with power never care about these thing. That is why war has always been intertwined with the history of human development throughout the past thousands of years.

 

[DrBeer]

Wars have no winners. They have negative consequences for the West, and for Russia. The West is experiencing gas and resource shortages. Russia has secured itself it has its own resources and production, but its isolation from the outside world is not good and cannot be sustained. I hope the war ends soon. I hope people can live comfortably and continue to prosper.

Has Russia ensured its own security?
In 2022, Putin, the leader of the Rashism, claimed that Ukraine would fall in a matter of days. It’s now mid-2026, and Ukraine is successfully destroying strategic targets deep behind Russian lines, grinding down tens of thousands of its "disposable soldiers" every month, and decimating entire industries. And you’re seriously saying that "Russia has ensured its security"? Then explain why the "gas station country" has started turning into a "parking lot country", because in a large number of regions there is NO GAS to fill up cars. I guess that’s for security, right? 

[fruktik]

In the near future, in Russia, the terrorist state, a mobilization will be announced-whether open or "indirect"-as well as ANOTHER round of tax hikes and the seizure of assets from the population, including crypto assets. The legislative framework is already being prepared... Just keep an eye on legislative changes in Russia, and the picture will become much more realistic and clear!
With wishes for peace and prosperity, and may you never experience what Ukraine and its people are going through!
Ukraine, Kyiv, DrBeer

Yes, you're absolutely right. A new mass forced mobilization will be announced very soon. And it will most likely happen immediately after the elections.

And what about the economy? It's not doing so well. Will Russia be able to continue the war? It's highly likely that this year will be its last, as the budget simply can't handle it, and there are no new revenues in sight.

From what I've read, many people here are writing about the money coming from oil and gas sales, but they have no idea what the cost of extracting these resources is. If the price of oil drops to around $60, it won't bring a penny into the treasury.

[DrBeer]

In the near future, in Russia, the terrorist state, a mobilization will be announced-whether open or "indirect"-as well as ANOTHER round of tax hikes and the seizure of assets from the population, including crypto assets. The legislative framework is already being prepared... Just keep an eye on legislative changes in Russia, and the picture will become much more realistic and clear!
With wishes for peace and prosperity, and may you never experience what Ukraine and its people are going through!
Ukraine, Kyiv, DrBeer

Yes, you're absolutely right. A new mass forced mobilization will be announced very soon. And it will most likely happen immediately after the elections.

And what about the economy? It's not doing so well. Will Russia be able to continue the war? It's highly likely that this year will be its last, as the budget simply can't handle it, and there are no new revenues in sight.

From what I've read, many people here are writing about the money coming from oil and gas sales, but they have no idea what the cost of extracting these resources is. If the price of oil drops to around $60, it won't bring a penny into the treasury.

The biggest problem isn’t the mobilization, which will definitely happen (whether covert or overt),but the fact that they don’t understand that they’re giving their lives not for their country, not for the prosperity of their people, and not to defend themselves against aggression... but are simply dying so that the RASHIST (Russian Nazism/Fascism) regime can hold on for a little while longer.
As for the economy-I regularly read social media posts by people living in Russia. And there’s just a wild outcry there! Impoverishment, debt, the collapse of private businesses that have no ties to the authorities or their lackeys, a lack of jobs or reduced workdays and, consequently, lower wages—and now, especially, “How can this be-we produce more oil than anyone else, yet we have no gasoline at the gas stations!?” Friends from the temporarily occupied Crimea are writing in a panic, “Stop bombing us—there’s almost no food left in the stores!” They don’t understand that this isn’t a question for me, but for their Führer, who unleashed this terrorist war, being absolutely certain that “Russia’s economy is stable and strong”… ...silly guy

[Dreadboost]

Of course Russia can sustain this war for much longer. They generate hundreds of billions of dollars from the sale of oil and gas every year, and they channel a large chunk of that money into their military. Don't be fooled by sanctions, asides China that is the largest customer of Russian oil, the European Union is still a significant buyer of Russian LNG and pipeline gas.

That said, it would definitely have been better if this war wasn't ongoing, so these monies would be channeled into more productive aspects of the country and economy, but it is what it is and that is the situation they created. But as far as it concerns sustaining this war, yes they can and that is exactly what they are doing.

I also agree that Russia can sustain this war for much longer, because we all know that Russia is a developed nation and also a rich country. Like you mentioned they make a lot of money in oil and gas sale, which they are definitely using to sponsor the war and are not really affected, even if the west has been sponsoring Ukraine in this war. Also they have a very good relationship with China, which has also helped them do business together.  I just feel it will be better if they can come to an understanding,  so they can end this war, because I believe it's really going to benefit bot nations.