Negative Trust From Murat Without Evidence

[Leclerc2019]

Dear administration / moderators,

There is a forum user who is leaving negative trust ratings without proper justification. His nickname is Murat:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=815246

Today I launched a bounty campaign that was officially approved by the project team who hired me:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5584297

Approximately 30 minutes after the campaign was launched, Murat left me a negative trust rating.

The reference link in the trust feedback simply leads to my bounty thread with the short comment “Scam bounty manager” and contains no evidence and no additional information whatsoever.

I decided to contact him privately on Telegram to politely ask for clarification regarding the reason for this accusation. Instead of providing any explanation, he immediately blocked me without answering.

I would like to ask the administration and moderators to review this situation objectively.

From my perspective, leaving serious scam accusations without evidence, refusing communication, and blocking attempts at clarification is not appropriate behavior and damages forum reputation systems unfairly.

I respectfully request:

1. A review and removal of this unjustified negative trust.
2. An investigation into the behavior of this user regarding abuse of the trust system.

Thank you for your attention.


PROOFS

1. I was hired by the MiraDex team




2. Negative trust



3. My messages to Murat

[(BTC)]

I don't think it matters at this point... You did it once before:

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Thanks for the detailed information Albon. I can see that I also flagged one of his alt account, @persgrata and you also flagged @Formula Bounty. This only means that this person is out here to advertise scam projects and also scam participants

Therefore, @Leclerc2019 deserves a flag too. I know he will move on to create another account which we shall also discover soon, but it's better newbies who are a majority of participants in those bounties know the kind of bounty manager they deal with.

Type 1 flag: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3480

You absolutely deserve this negative trust. I gave you a chance two years ago when you promoted the Ponzi platform Cash Skull, and later you wrote on your Telegram channel that the platform was a scam. You do not learn from your mistakes, and unfortunately, you pose risks to those working under your management and to investors. Therefore, you deserve this tag. [PROOF]

[Leclerc2019]

I don't think it matters at this point...

<...>

Thanks for the detailed information Albon. I can see that I also flagged one of his alt account, @persgrata and you also flagged @Formula Bounty. This only means that this person is out here to advertise scam projects and also scam participants

Therefore, @Leclerc2019 deserves a flag too. I know he will move on to create another account which we shall also discover soon, but it's better newbies who are a majority of participants in those bounties know the kind of bounty manager they deal with.

Type 1 flag: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3480

You absolutely deserve this negative trust. I gave you a chance two years ago when you promoted the Ponzi platform Cash Skull, and later you wrote on your Telegram channel that the platform was a scam. You do not learn from your mistakes, and unfortunately, you pose risks to those working under your management and to investors. Therefore, you deserve this tag. [PROOF]

This doesn't apply to this topic or Albon.

Although, if we're talking specifically about Albon, he's a hater because he pointed out that the project didn't pay the rewards.

In fact, every participant eventually received them.

But we're talking about something else now.

You absolutely deserve this negative trust. I gave you a chance two years ago when you promoted the Ponzi platform Cash Skull, and later you wrote on your Telegram channel that the platform was a scam. You do not learn from your mistakes, and unfortunately, you pose risks to those working under your management and to investors. Therefore, you deserve this tag. [PROOF]

So Cash Skull was shut down immediately after it was discovered to be a scam.

I still don’t understand what this has to do with Murat?

[(BTC)]

This doesn't apply to this topic

I think it does, sorry.

I still don’t understand what this has to do with Murat?

I trust the profile(s) of Murat + others that have left you feedback more, than you, given the short reading of what's on paper at the moment. That's all, brother.

[Leclerc2019]

I still don’t understand what this has to do with Murat?

I the profile of Murat more than you given what's on paper at the moment. That's all, brother.

"Very objective." Will there be a substantive analysis? If not, let's leave it to moderation and administration.

[(BTC)]

"Very objective." Will there be a substantive analysis? If not, let's leave it to moderation and administration.

I'm sure other users that find themselves responding to you in this thread are going to be much nicer than I am.

Just trying to help you avoid wasting your energy. Sorry, and good luck.

[Leclerc2019]

"Very objective." Will there be a substantive analysis? If not, let's leave it to moderation and administration.

I'm sure other users that find themselves responding to you in this thread are going to be much nicer than I am.

Just trying to help you avoid wasting your energy. Sorry, and good luck.

 🤝 🤝 Have a good day

[FinneysTrueVision]

The screenshots you posted don’t prove that you were hired by the Miradex team. It only shows pictures of their telegram group. Murat created the ANN topic for Miradex and ran their signature campaign. It only lasted a week but I assume he has had contact with the team and might have information that led him to believe you are a scammer.

miradex is their representative on Bitcointalk. Maybe they can clarify this situation. It likely won’t make any difference. You already have 3 red tags from trusted members and some untrusted feedback that is also negative. Anybody joining your bounties should be very wary.

[Leclerc2019]

The screenshots you posted don’t prove that you were hired by the Miradex team. It only shows pictures of their telegram group. Murat created the ANN topic for Miradex and ran their signature campaign. It only lasted a week but I assume he has had contact with the team and might have information that led him to believe you are a scammer.

1. He's a real team representative. Anyone can contact him and clarify; this is public information.

2. Why did Murat avoid answering?

3. I didn't know anyone else had launched a campaign. It's enough not to set up a trust initially, but to clarify. But even if you set up a trust, please explain the reason.

[nutildah]

But even if you set up a trust, please explain the reason.

I checked and the reason why you deserve negative trust is pretty clear:

What happened:: This BM promoted the BUIDL platform which is a HYIP that offers a fixed annual return of up to 526.5%, they mentioned that at the end of the year anyone can invest $1000 and can earn up to $6265.01. Also for the presale [this] it was expected to end on 2025.02.15 14:00 (UTC) but it is still ongoing.

You're promoting trash projects and you pay people in denominations of trash. This is who you've chosen to work with. If your clients don't care about your previous reputation its likely because they think they can use you more than you can use them.

[Leclerc2019]

But even if you set up a trust, please explain the reason.

I checked and the reason why you deserve negative trust is pretty clear:

What happened:: This BM promoted the BUIDL platform which is a HYIP that offers a fixed annual return of up to 526.5%, they mentioned that at the end of the year anyone can invest $1000 and can earn up to $6265.01. Also for the presale [this] it was expected to end on 2025.02.15 14:00 (UTC) but it is still ongoing.

You're promoting trash projects and you pay people in denominations of trash. This is who you've chosen to work with. If your clients don't care about your previous reputation its likely because they think they can use you more than you can use them.

I still don’t understand what this has to do with Murat?

[yahoo62278]

But even if you set up a trust, please explain the reason.

I checked and the reason why you deserve negative trust is pretty clear:

What happened:: This BM promoted the BUIDL platform which is a HYIP that offers a fixed annual return of up to 526.5%, they mentioned that at the end of the year anyone can invest $1000 and can earn up to $6265.01. Also for the presale [this] it was expected to end on 2025.02.15 14:00 (UTC) but it is still ongoing.

You're promoting trash projects and you pay people in denominations of trash. This is who you've chosen to work with. If your clients don't care about your previous reputation its likely because they think they can use you more than you can use them.

I still don’t understand what this has to do with Murat?

Your reputation follows you is what this has to do with Murat. You have been given an explanation and the admins are not going to step in and help you. Why do you have an issue with only 1 of the 4 users that tagged you? Even if for some reason Murat remover their trust on your profile 3 others still tagged you for your past actions.

You should probably hang up being a bounty manager, it looks like people feel you are incompetent and will be easily taken advantage of.

[Leclerc2019]

But even if you set up a trust, please explain the reason.

I checked and the reason why you deserve negative trust is pretty clear:

What happened:: This BM promoted the BUIDL platform which is a HYIP that offers a fixed annual return of up to 526.5%, they mentioned that at the end of the year anyone can invest $1000 and can earn up to $6265.01. Also for the presale [this] it was expected to end on 2025.02.15 14:00 (UTC) but it is still ongoing.

You're promoting trash projects and you pay people in denominations of trash. This is who you've chosen to work with. If your clients don't care about your previous reputation its likely because they think they can use you more than you can use them.

I still don’t understand what this has to do with Murat?

Your reputation follows you is what this has to do with Murat. You have been given an explanation and the admins are not going to step in and help you. Why do you have an issue with only 1 of the 4 users that tagged you? Even if for some reason Murat remover their trust on your profile 3 others still tagged you for your past actions.

You should probably hang up being a bounty manager, it looks like people feel you are incompetent and will be easily taken advantage of.

The administration was asked specifically about this issue, so why the hell is everyone bothering to share their opinions here? Did I ask for someone's opinion?

Go post somewhere else.

[yahoo62278]

But even if you set up a trust, please explain the reason.

I checked and the reason why you deserve negative trust is pretty clear:

What happened:: This BM promoted the BUIDL platform which is a HYIP that offers a fixed annual return of up to 526.5%, they mentioned that at the end of the year anyone can invest $1000 and can earn up to $6265.01. Also for the presale [this] it was expected to end on 2025.02.15 14:00 (UTC) but it is still ongoing.

You're promoting trash projects and you pay people in denominations of trash. This is who you've chosen to work with. If your clients don't care about your previous reputation its likely because they think they can use you more than you can use them.

I still don’t understand what this has to do with Murat?

Your reputation follows you is what this has to do with Murat. You have been given an explanation and the admins are not going to step in and help you. Why do you have an issue with only 1 of the 4 users that tagged you? Even if for some reason Murat remover their trust on your profile 3 others still tagged you for your past actions.

You should probably hang up being a bounty manager, it looks like people feel you are incompetent and will be easily taken advantage of.

The administration was asked specifically about this issue, so why the hell is everyone bothering to share their opinions here? Did I ask for someone's opinion?

Go post somewhere else.

You posted in the reputation section 1st of all and like I said before, admins are not going to step in and make someone remove their trust. Murat blocked you according to you on telegram or whatever, so they are not going to remove their trust on your account. If anyone is going to remove the trust, it would have to be Murat. Since they apparently do not want to talk to you, your odds of getting the trust removed are very low.

FYI it doesn't matter if you asked for opinions, you posted in the reputation section and users are going to give their opinions. If you didn't want anyone chiming in, you should have stuck with trying to send a pm or something.

[Leclerc2019]

But even if you set up a trust, please explain the reason.

I checked and the reason why you deserve negative trust is pretty clear:

What happened:: This BM promoted the BUIDL platform which is a HYIP that offers a fixed annual return of up to 526.5%, they mentioned that at the end of the year anyone can invest $1000 and can earn up to $6265.01. Also for the presale [this] it was expected to end on 2025.02.15 14:00 (UTC) but it is still ongoing.

You're promoting trash projects and you pay people in denominations of trash. This is who you've chosen to work with. If your clients don't care about your previous reputation its likely because they think they can use you more than you can use them.

I still don’t understand what this has to do with Murat?

Your reputation follows you is what this has to do with Murat. You have been given an explanation and the admins are not going to step in and help you. Why do you have an issue with only 1 of the 4 users that tagged you? Even if for some reason Murat remover their trust on your profile 3 others still tagged you for your past actions.

You should probably hang up being a bounty manager, it looks like people feel you are incompetent and will be easily taken advantage of.

The administration was asked specifically about this issue, so why the hell is everyone bothering to share their opinions here? Did I ask for someone's opinion?

Go post somewhere else.

You posted in the reputation section 1st of all and like I said before, admins are not going to step in and make someone remove their trust. Murat blocked you according to you on telegram or whatever, so they are not going to remove their trust on your account. If anyone is going to remove the trust, it would have to be Murat. Since they apparently do not want to talk to you, your odds of getting the trust removed are very low.

FYI it doesn't matter if you asked for opinions, you posted in the reputation section and users are going to give their opinions. If you didn't want anyone chiming in, you should have stuck with trying to send a pm or something.

1. If the administration doesn't monitor the trusts, why is everyone accusing me of having a negative trust? What's the point of this reputation if any "Murat" can raise or lower it without explanation?

2. How can Murat raise it if I politely asked him on Telegram to explain the reason and he simply blocked me? What should I do? He didn't even explain the reason.

3. Regarding my post here. I'll reiterate: it was created so that the administration could comment, because his haven't explained anything to me. If there's a form I can submit a complaint, I'll do so. As far as I know, there isn't, which is why I created this post, not so everyone could comment on my activities or any trusts from 2023.

[ABCbits]

But even if you set up a trust, please explain the reason.

I checked and the reason why you deserve negative trust is pretty clear:

What happened:: This BM promoted the BUIDL platform which is a HYIP that offers a fixed annual return of up to 526.5%, they mentioned that at the end of the year anyone can invest $1000 and can earn up to $6265.01. Also for the presale [this] it was expected to end on 2025.02.15 14:00 (UTC) but it is still ongoing.

You're promoting trash projects and you pay people in denominations of trash. This is who you've chosen to work with. If your clients don't care about your previous reputation its likely because they think they can use you more than you can use them.

Now OP have 5 negative trust. Promise of fixed 526.5% APY is very obvious red flags. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5452849.0 also shows OP also promote another project with promise 25% to 100% profit within 7 days about 2 years earlier.

[lovesmayfamilis]

1. If the administration doesn't monitor the trusts, why is everyone accusing me of having a negative trust? What's the point of this reputation if any "Murat" can raise or lower it without explanation?

2. How can Murat raise it if I politely asked him on Telegram to explain the reason and he simply blocked me? What should I do? He didn't even explain the reason.

3. Regarding my post here. I'll reiterate: it was created so that the administration could comment, because his haven't explained anything to me. If there's a form I can submit a complaint, I'll do so. As far as I know, there isn't, which is why I created this post, not so everyone could comment on my activities or any trusts from 2023.

Now OP, read the information about old and ☝️new trusts.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5191802.0

[stompix]

3. Regarding my post here. I'll reiterate: it was created so that the administration could comment, because his haven't explained anything to me. If there's a form I can submit a complaint, I'll do so. As far as I know, there isn't, which is why I created this post, not so everyone could comment on my activities or any trusts from 2023.

Well, here is your problem, besides the fact that you're a dumb scammer!
You don't know how the forum works!

There is no court here, there is no judge, there is no complaint form, there is no process, it's a god damn forum!!!!!
Everyone can make their opinion heard, everyone can be the judge of an event or of a person and express that, for example, just as I just tagged you after I read this topic without ever knowing you before, because I think you're a scammer!

Now, if you want a piece of advice, well, that would be to just stop! Yup, stop all this nonsense and find a new way in life, those tags and flag are not going to come off!

[PrivacyG]

2. Why did Murat avoid answering?

He probably considers he wasted enough time leaving you a feedback.

The administration was asked specifically about this issue, so why the hell is everyone bothering to share their opinions here? Did I ask for someone's opinion?

Go post somewhere else.

Look.  I have an opinion too.  You are an idiot and look what you have done.  Now you brought your history back up to the surface and you made things a lot worse.

1. If the administration doesn't monitor the trusts, why is everyone accusing me of having a negative trust? What's the point of this reputation if any "Murat" can raise or lower it without explanation?

The point of the system is particularly that it runs on what the Bitcoin Talk community thinks.  Not on what the 'administration' thinks.  I can not remember a single time I entered the Trust page of a Member and saw unjustified feedback.  If there was any, it was in the Untrusted feedback section.  The system works just GREAT with no need for any administration to waste their time monitoring it.

3. Regarding my post here. I'll reiterate: it was created so that the administration could comment, because his haven't explained anything to me. If there's a form I can submit a complaint, I'll do so. As far as I know, there isn't, which is why I created this post, not so everyone could comment on my activities or any trusts from 2023.

Some times when you do stupid things, the consequences may haunt you and may keep haunting you for a long while.  Do not expect the scam promoting activities to be forgotten.  They will not be, no matter how much you wish we 'go post somewhere else'.

[hd49728]

Dear administration / moderators,

You can use this thread in Reputation board for appealing about any trust feedbacks that you consider as inaccurate on your account but you must know that the forum's admins and moderators don't moderate scams and trust feedbacks.

The trust system is decentralized and DT members can decide to exclude Murat from their trust lists if they see your appeal is valid.

19. Possible (or real) scams and Trust ratings are not moderated (to prevent moderation abuse).