Fiat and Bitcoin work hand in hand because without fiat you cannot buy Bitcoin

[Rebirth01]

Fiat and Bitcoin are two different things working together but one tend have more value in recent time than the other . Today, Bitcoin is the new idea of the new world but without fiat can you buy Bitcoin? Though Bitcoin seems to be the new order but it will not certainly take the place of fiat. Bitcoin seems to be like the shares you buy from the banks, company etc. the way bank and company shares cannot replace fiat is the same way Bitcoin cannot replace fiat. Both will work together for the betterment of the people.

[Somegory]

Fiat is here before Bitcoin, And it's humans own normal money, there is nothing else we can use to purchase Bitcoin than fiat and when you pull the trigger you have saved yourself from the possible inflation from that fiat money.

Bitcoin don't need to beat Fiat though, it was not created to replace fiat in the first place, so it's fine without it, some people are also storing their fiat onto stable coins because it's easier this way without the banks.

I hold some stable coins too and it is more convenient for me to buy Bitcoin using USDC than exchanging fiat to Bitcoin directly, it's more stressful to do than using stable coins.

[m2017]

Fiat and Bitcoin are two different things working together but one tend have more value in recent time than the other .

Because the supply of one "thing" is limited, while the supply of the other is infinite. This inevitably leads to an increase in the price of one "thing" relative to the other.

Today, Bitcoin is the new idea of the new world but without fiat can you buy Bitcoin?

Why not? Buy with stablecoins. You can also "buy" with your goods or services.

Though Bitcoin seems to be the new order but it will not certainly take the place of fiat.

Because fiat money will only be replaced by CBDC.

Bitcoin seems to be like the shares you buy from the banks, company etc. the way bank and company shares cannot replace fiat is the same way Bitcoin cannot replace fiat.

There is some truth to this, because now bitcoin looks like the shares of a "tech" company that people invest in.

Both will work together for the betterment of the people.

Here I have my doubts, because the second “thing” has long been working not for the benefit of the people (on the contrary), but for the benefit of the government and the regulator.

[Amphenomenon]

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Fiat currency is serving it purpose as a means of exchange, just like how bitcoin can be used to purchased/exchange fiat, both are still currency yet having differences but serving similar purposes and even more with different features or functions.

This doesn't really make fiat special, there are other currency that can be use to acquire bitcoin and then maybe as a service or other means. They have some similar characteristics yet still different.

[Exitoral]

True. Fiat and Bitcoin work hand in hand. You surly can't purchase Bitcoin without fiat. I agree.

But you can't entirely get fiat by just buying Bitcoin. People earn Bitcoin through mining or others are being paid in Bitcoin. So this can actually beat your argument. But I still didn't dismiss the fact that most people got their Bitcoin faster through buying it with fiat currency 💲.

With the way I see it. Fiat currency can't be totally eliminated. That's because to buy something generally in countries, you will need their fiat currency 💲. Bitcoin for many reasons is a safe haven for inflation.

I don't think Bitcoin will eliminate fiat currency. It will just look like a very legitimate alternative to fiat currency. That's were I think Bitcoin will end.

[EarnOnVictor]

Bitcoin seems to be like the shares you buy from the banks, company etc. the way bank and company shares cannot replace fiat is the same way Bitcoin cannot replace fiat. Both will work together for the betterment of the people.

That's a good thought that was rare here before, but I'd hinted the same a few times ago when some people think Bitcoin would kill fiat entirely. I don't know how some people even think. Bitcoin has achieved its purpose already and will continue to grow, but for it to be so dominant, the world's government would first make it a legal tender, use it for those things fiat are doing, etc, that's where the citizens would follow and gradually, fiat could die. But can this happen? No! The government will not 100% trust what they didn't create and what they can't control, which makes it difficult. For me, the coexistence of Bitcoin and fiat is perfect enough.

[Die_empty]

Why not? Buy with stablecoins. You can also "buy" with your goods or services.

You buy stablecoin with fiat. How many platforms offer the services of exchanging Bitcoin for fiat? We have not gotten to the era where we can conclude that Bitcoin can be purchased without fiat.

This doesn't really make fiat special, there are other currency that can be use to acquire bitcoin and then maybe as a service or other means. They have some similar characteristics yet still different.

Everything in life has both advantages and disadvantages. Bitcoin was not created to totally replace fiat, but rather as an alternative. There are still other ways to acquire Bitcoin, like earning and mining. But currently, the majority of people buy it using fiat.

[SatoPrincess]

Fiat and Bitcoin are two different things working together but one tend have more value in recent time than the other . Today, Bitcoin is the new idea of the new world but without fiat can you buy Bitcoin? Though Bitcoin seems to be the new order but it will not certainly take the place of fiat. Bitcoin seems to be like the shares you buy from the banks, company etc. the way bank and company shares cannot replace fiat is the same way Bitcoin cannot replace fiat. Both will work together for the betterment of the people.

We have said this so many times bitcoin is not replacing fiat. Both can coexist, I don’t see the need for people to try to pit them against each other. I don’t agree with the idea that bitcoin is the same as company shares or stocks, there is a stark difference between the two or do you mean bitcoin ETFs?

[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

Fiat and Bitcoin are two different things working together but one tend have more value in recent time than the other .

Has fiat been valuable before now to the extent, have you forgotten about the incidence of inflation and how it has been dealing with Fiat currency in such a way that it loses value in respect to time, while bitcoin developed a resistance to all these and increases in value as you hold.

Today, Bitcoin is the new idea of the new world but without fiat can you buy Bitcoin?

I disagree, you can exchange Bitcoin with anything that is acceptable as a medium of exchange as long as it's worth a value that can be quantify, also you can mine Bitcoin, which means you don't necessarily have to buy it, you can even receive it as a free gift, there are many ways to be in position of Bitcoin accept buying with Fiat currency.

[Ruttoshi]

Bitcoin was created to be an alternative to Fiat currency which means that they will work hand in hand because no country accepts only Bitcoin. Fiat is created by the government and that's what they use to manipulate the economy and the poor to stay poor due to inflation that comes from the regular printing of money overtime.

OP, Bitcoin is decentralized and wasn't created for business but to save you from the broken Fiat system. Therefore, you don't need to compare it with stock that is owned by an entity or individual because stock is centralized.

You can have Bitcoin by rendering service and get paid in Bitcoin if your employer agrees. The forum is a good example of getting paid with Bitcoin from sig campaign.

[BlackBoss_]

Fiat and Bitcoin are two different things working together but one tend have more value in recent time than the other . Today, Bitcoin is the new idea of the new world but without fiat can you buy Bitcoin? Though Bitcoin seems to be the new order but it will not certainly take the place of fiat. Bitcoin seems to be like the shares you buy from the banks, company etc. the way bank and company shares cannot replace fiat is the same way Bitcoin cannot replace fiat. Both will work together for the betterment of the people.

Not actually true like without fiat currency, you can not buy bitcoin because there are many exchange ways for having bitcoin like pizzas, other physical things, gift cards and any private deals. It's not always mandatory to have fiat currencies as means for purchasing bitcoins but I agree it is a most common entry ways for many people.

That's it, most common entry way is not like it is the only way and without fiat currency, people "can not" buy bitcoin.

[PostQuantumBTC]

Fiat and Bitcoin are two different things working together but one tend have more value in recent time than the other .

Bitcoin has not just been having value than fiat in recent time, it has always been like that since bitcoin was created. Bitcoin always have value than fiat almost all the time.

Today, Bitcoin is the new idea of the new world but without fiat can you buy Bitcoin?

If there is no fiat, there will be an alternative which might even be better than fiat. A good example are gold coins.

Though Bitcoin seems to be the new order but it will not certainly take the place of fiat.

Bitcoin is just an alternative, it can not take the place of fiat.

[buwaytress]

Want to know something about how much fiat I ever needed to buy Bitcoin in my ten years? Zero. Not one cent.

I know it's not a common situation, but neither is it unique: I earned all of my coin from work, or from this forum (signature campaign). And yes, I have sold most of that to pay for bills, but fiat didn't make that possible, fiat was the only way I could pay for them.

I'm not shitting on fiat here. Just saying you don't actually need it, you need something of value to exchange for it, sure. Doesn't have to be fiat. Pizzas anyone?

[Oasisman]

I have to agree that Bitcoin and fiat will continue to co-exist in the coming years, and that they serve different purposes. Fiat won't going to replace Bitcoin, simply because it was not designed to function like one, and Bitcoin wouldn't replace fiat, at least for now.
But this :

Bitcoin seems to be like the shares you buy from the banks, company etc. the way bank and company shares cannot replace fiat is the same way Bitcoin cannot replace fiat. Both will work together for the betterment of the people.

I don't think it's the same. Bitcoin is a decentralized asset, and no company that controls it, unlike the shares you buy from companies, banks, etc., which are being run by companies for you to generate revenue and profit through stock shares.

Why not? Buy with stablecoins. You can also "buy" with your goods or services.

You buy stablecoin with fiat. How many platforms offer the services of exchanging Bitcoin for fiat? We have not gotten to the era where we can conclude that Bitcoin can be purchased without fiat.

Is it offering a service in exchange for Bitcoin, basically, one way to purchase it without using fiat? Signature campaigns? we are paid in Bitcoin, right? Without using fiat, we acquire Bitcoin.
Generally, when we say "purchase", that means acquiring something from someone in exchange for something that has the same value, and that doesn't necessarily mean paying fiat money. It could be a service or something precious material things.

[Spaceman1000$]

Fiat and Bitcoin are two different things working together but one tend have more value in recent time than the other . Today, Bitcoin is the new idea of the new world but without fiat can you buy Bitcoin? Though Bitcoin seems to be the new order but it will not certainly take the place of fiat. Bitcoin seems to be like the shares you buy from the banks, company etc. the way bank and company shares cannot replace fiat is the same way Bitcoin cannot replace fiat. Both will work together for the betterment of the people.

Bitcoin will not take the place of Fiat, this is because most government would prefer Fiat over Bitcoin, as it's easier for them to control and manipulate figures with Fiat, but Bitcoin doesn't give any government such authority, this is because of it's decentralized nature. However bitcoin can outrightly replace Fiat because Bitcoin has a currency tendency and it can function well as a currency in any given society, so if a government wants to place Bitcoin as legal tender, nothing will be wrong with such moves, as I don't really see too much of an exceptional thing that Fiat does that Bitcoin cannot.

[BlackHatCoiner]

Fiat is enforced by the State, so if everyone is forced to treat it as money, it is completely reasonable that buying bitcoin with fiat is a usual trade. If people were no longer forced to treat those shitcoins as money, and we returned to a natural hard money standard, where banks would hold bitcoin and issue banknotes pegged with bitcoin, we could live in pretty good world without fiat.

[Findingnemo]

Nope, that is not necessary. To understand what Bitcoin is, you need to know that it is money the same as fiat you use, so how you get your fiat money by paying fiat money? No right? You get in exchange of providing a service or selling good or something that has value.

Literally, you can ask for payment in Bitcoin as if you are a plumber with the tag Only Bitcoin payment is accepted and that is how you get bitcoin with no fiat involvement.

[TokenTikas]

It would not be right to compare bitcoin with fiat currency because fiat currency has been in use since ancient times. Every country has its own fiat currency with which everything in that country is running. Even if the price of fiat currency decreases slightly due to inflation in the country's economy, its importance is immense. Maybe we are moving towards using virtual currencies in line with the improvement of technology for modernization, but fiat currency will continue to be used.

Bitcoin can be bought but those who want to buy bitcoin directly must use the fiat currency of their own country. Personally, I don't buy bitcoin using fiat currency. I buy bitcoin with the money I get from my crypto earnings, so I don't have to buy bitcoin using fiat currency.

[tbct_mt2]

Fiat is enforced by the State, so if everyone is forced to treat it as money, it is completely reasonable that buying bitcoin with fiat is a usual trade. If people were no longer forced to treat those shitcoins as money, and we returned to a natural hard money standard, where banks would hold bitcoin and issue banknotes pegged with bitcoin, we could live in pretty good world without fiat.

If governments change their mindset and policy, central banks have to change their systems, the people can get benefit with Banknotes pegged with bitcoin, that's a very bullish future for Bitcoin.

It's cool to imagine about that future with Bitcoin goes mainstream but I am not interested in having my money in banknotes pegged with bitcoin. If I understand about Bitcoin, realize its value as well as importance of Bitcoin private keys, I would like to have my money only in bitcoin, not in any banknotes, and I'd also like to store my bitcoin in Bitcoin non custodial wallets.

[Smack That Ace]

However bitcoin can outrightly replace Fiat because Bitcoin has a currency tendency and it can function well as a currency in any given society, so if a government wants to place Bitcoin as legal tender, nothing will be wrong with such moves, as I don't really see too much of an exceptional thing that Fiat does that Bitcoin cannot.

Bitcoin cannot completely replace fiat, and that would do more harm than good to the economy. Because modern economies need a flexible currency that can adjust to economic conditions

Remember that our economy functions smoothly thanks to the management and regulation of the government and central bank. Through fiat, they can adjust interest rates, control the money supply, and intervene during crises to reduce negative impacts and prevent the collapse of the system

If we replace it with a currency that has a fixed and decentralized supply like Bitcoin. The economy would become less flexible and could even collapse rapidly because the government and banks would then be unable to intervene and provide support.

Not a coincidence that the gold standard was abandoned.