How clean are the big leagues really?

[Natalim]

I just had this thought because of what is happening in our country and probably in many other places too.

Rich people can control the media, politicians, and even some rules, just to protect their business. We see corruption everywhere and in the end it is always the regular people who suffer from it.

So if we connect that idea to sports betting, especially in big leagues where there is so much money involved, can we really say everything is clean?

I am not saying every game is fixed, but it is hard not to question it. These big leagues already make money from tickets, ads, sponsors, TV rights and all that. Then you add sports betting, which is a huge market too. Maybe even bigger than what most people think.

So what if some people behind the league are not really honest? What stops them from influencing officials or certain calls in the game? Not even the whole game needs to be fixed. Sometimes one call, one foul, one penalty, or one bad decision can already affect the spread, total score, or result.

And if someone already knows what is likely to happen, then ordinary bettors are just playing a game they can never really win.

That is why I also think maybe smaller markets are not always bad. Maybe games that do not attract too much public money are less interesting for big people to manipulate. I am not sure if that is the right way to think about it, but it kind of makes sense to me.

Am I overthinking this, or do you also think big leagues are not as clean as they want us to believe?

[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

Rich people can control the media, politicians, and even some rules, just to protect their business. We see corruption everywhere and in the end it is always the regular people who suffer from it.

In this life, you may needed to prove that you are more exposed and has a preference to what you want, if not, anything can come your way, this is not about being the richest or even a poor person, but knowing what you deserve and how you could achieve getting your aim successfully without being altered by anyone.

So if we connect that idea to sports betting, especially in big leagues where there is so much money involved, can we really say everything is clean?

I don't think when it comes to sportsbet and some well recognized leagues that they are being manipulated, because the decision is in our hands as we decide or determine on how to play our bet without being persuaded or motivated to do so by anyone, games like sportsbet app basically on your experience.

[Botnake]

Put that in your mind all the time and try to make betting decisions based on what you believe is a possible conspiracy theory, because you are the only one who can prove if what you suspect is correct. If games can really be rigged, or if some games are rigged, then most likely the rigged side will win most of the time, and if you can follow that side, you should be profitable.

Now the question is, can you really spot it? If you can, please share some hints on how, because that would be useful to many bettors here.

[Pandu Geddon]

Am I overthinking this, or do you also think big leagues are not as clean as they want us to believe?

If it is related to match fixing, I actually think that smaller leagues have a higher chance of fixing. This is also related to promotion to higher leagues. 
Big leagues also have the potential for fixing, but this is more closely watched by many people. 
I don't think about this matter too seriously. I will still gamble with small amounts of money, even though there is a possibility of match fixing happening.

[Natalim]

Put that in your mind all the time and try to make betting decisions based on what you believe is a possible conspiracy theory, because you are the only one who can prove if what you suspect is correct. If games can really be rigged, or if some games are rigged, then most likely the rigged side will win most of the time, and if you can follow that side, you should be profitable.

That should always be in my mind, and that is why I was able to bring up this topic, because I always consider it every time I am picking sides or looking at the odds in the market. For me, it is not just about choosing the team I think will win, I also try to think if the line makes sense, if there is value, or if maybe I am just being trapped by what looks too obvious. That is why betting is not really simple if you take it seriously, because every line can make you think twice.

Now the question is, can you really spot it? If you can, please share some hints on how, because that would be useful to many bettors here.

I cannot say for sure yet, but my record will prove it eventually, because I am still in the process of this experiment.

For now, I am just testing if my reads and theories can really work in the long run, and the only honest way to know that is by tracking the results, not just by relying on feelings or a few lucky wins.

If it is related to match fixing, I actually think that smaller leagues have a higher chance of fixing.

Because that kind of information is what they fed us.

[Ruttoshi]

I don't think that big leagues can manipulate the result of a live match when there's VAR to call him to order. Of course, the referee can make a decision that will affect the outcome of the game but it must be a clear decision that VAR agrees with. Big boys don't have the power to influence big leagues because it wouldn't work for them since, a lot of eyes are watching.

It's in the small leagues that we have the highest level of manipulation and I wouldn't dare bet on such leagues because it's like you are throwing away your money.

[Hewlet]

So what if some people behind the league are not really honest? What stops them from influencing officials or certain calls in the game? Not even the whole game needs to be fixed. Sometimes one call, one foul, one penalty, or one bad decision can already affect the spread, total score, or result.

If you look at a major league like the premier league, you could really tell that there is barely little that is going on in the background that is influencing the league to a selected few favor. the league might not be 100% clean but it is still clean to a reasonable degree. you could see what it means to the whole of arsenal community for them to have won the premier league after this years. you think if the system is manipulated it will take that long before it gets to arsenals turn? never.

whatever dirty thing that is going on the sideline of major leagues are minor secrete that is not too pronounce and is no different from the corruption that is almost across the different sectors in the world. the regular improvement to reduce mistakes that comes from officiating makes it even clear that corruption might exist in some of our major league but that it is not all that renounce.

[Alex077]

Rich people can control the media, politicians, and even some rules, just to protect their business. We see corruption everywhere and in the end it is always the regular people who suffer from it.

So if we connect that idea to sports betting, especially in big leagues where there is so much money involved, can we really say everything is clean?
I am not saying every game is fixed, but it is hard not to question it. These big leagues already make money from tickets, ads, sponsors, TV rights and all that. Then you add sports betting, which is a huge market too. Maybe even bigger than what most people think.

I think, maybe there are many different nuances here, but we definitely can’t completely rule out the human factor in professional sports. Wherever billions of dollars are involved - TV deals, sponsors, advertising, and betting markets - there will always be questions about transparency and the possible influence of certain powerful people. Sports history already has examples of corruption and fixed matches, so saying that something like this is completely impossible would be strange and naive.
And at the same time, I agree that you don’t always need to completely fix the outcome of a match to influence betting markets.

But in my opinion, the most important thing here is to keep a balanced view. Sometimes strange decisions are not caused by corruption, but simply by human mistakes, pressure, the speed of the game, or a referee’s subjective interpretation of the situation. You can suspect many things, but actually proving intentional influence on the outcome of a game is a completely different matter.

[TopT3ns]

I don't think that big leagues can manipulate the result of a live match when there's VAR to call him to order. Of course, the referee can make a decision that will affect the outcome of the game but it must be a clear decision that VAR agrees with. Big boys don't have the power to influence big leagues because it wouldn't work for them since, a lot of eyes are watching.

It's in the small leagues that we have the highest level of manipulation and I wouldn't dare bet on such leagues because it's like you are throwing away your money.

The review system complicates the situation of a clear cut cheating, though the subjectivity of the human interpretation behind the scenes is debatable. Large entities think twice before indulging in illegal activities that can have adverse impact on them as a result of the financial risks and relegation sanctions. The vulnerabilities associated with the structure of lower-tier tournaments enable the participation of external actors in determining results of matches without being noticed by the oversight.

[YOSHIE]

Am I overthinking this, or do you also think big leagues are not as clean as they want us to believe?

Maybe I should say something to you, believe it or not, sometimes when gambling and betting on sports in the big leagues when we experience defeat, what's more the situation on the field is not according to our wishes, Negative thoughts appear in our minds, one that we think is a game of manipulation by related elements who have power and are rich.

But I think it's all our illusion, because we lost gambling, even though cheating exists, but deceiving the big league is difficult, in my opinion the big league is clean in the game, it is very difficult to deceive the referee, players, goalkeepers and so on, they have a good reputation in every league and are also paid more than enough, they don't want their reputation to be risked just to cheat every game.

[Natalim]

Am I overthinking this, or do you also think big leagues are not as clean as they want us to believe?

Maybe I should say something to you, believe it or not, sometimes when gambling and betting on sports in the big leagues when we experience defeat, what's more the situation on the field is not according to our wishes, Negative thoughts appear in our minds, one that we think is a game of manipulation by related elements who have power and are rich.

But I think it's all our illusion, because we lost gambling, even though cheating exists, but deceiving the big league is difficult, in my opinion the big league is clean in the game, it is very difficult to deceive the referee, players, goalkeepers and so on, they have a good reputation in every league and are also paid more than enough, they don't want their reputation to be risked just to cheat every game.

This idea does not only come because the bet lost, it is also based on my observation from experience, even from the times when I won.
Sometimes winning can still show you something about how the market moves or how certain situations play out, so it is not always about making excuses after a loss.

[sotelorene]

Op, I may not be sure about what you are saying but I believe some of what you are thinking in your mind are true about sports and I have had this same thought too though we may not be able to prove it and I don't even think it is necessary and secondly it is not easy to prove it but it will be of our best interest to be aware of this so it will help us some way whenever we are making decision and selections in games we want to play. We know football can be somehow sometimes but haven't you see a game where under dog will win a big team while they don't stand any chance to win?

[Stepstowealth]

Am I overthinking this, or do you also think big leagues are not as clean as they want us to believe?

The big leagues may not be so dirty but at the same time they are not so clean. There are also levels of corruption and manipulation on some certain levels and in some games it may be very obvious while in some other games it may never be obvious but I believe they are not as manipulated as we will have in the smaller leagues where there are not so many attention for bigger leagues where attention is really focused on, manipulation has to be spot on in a way that people do not get to observe it fully or openly and that is difficult which makes it harder for it to be done but also at the same time not impossible.

[blomen]

in an industry where so much money is at stake, i think it’s impossible that nothing is being done to make even more money off consumers, viewers, and bettors. i believe this because, in the world of soccer and the major leagues, i think it would be very difficult for this system to survive without some shady dealings going on behind the scenes.

no matter how certain you are you can’t prove whether fixed matches exist or not. because soccer is a sport full of uncertainty and surprises. these can’t be explained simply by the favorite team losing or matches appearing to be fixed. there’s so much randomness that even if there were fixed matches, it would be impossible to predict them and generate a steady income from it.

[Findingnemo]

Those rich people who are controlling everything is already making billions of dollars from streaming the sports, from the ticket sales, and everything so their best interest should be to keep it much more exciting so that the viewership will go up and so their revenue. We keep connecting sports betting along with sports, but that is completely unnecessary. There may be players, managers, or someone from the sports who might be involved in it but the whole sport can't be staged.

[Cryptomultiplier]

That is why I also think maybe smaller markets are not always bad. Maybe games that do not attract too much public money are less interesting for big people to manipulate. I am not sure if that is the right way to think about it, but it kind of makes sense to me.

Am I overthinking this, or do you also think big leagues are not as clean as they want us to believe?

It makes sense to me too because why bother to bet on small leagues when much money can be made from the big leagues, and that's just how the risk involved is different and more influenced by insider information and rigging.
Even though there is claims of scrutiny upon suspicion of foul play, it doesn't overule the influence of big money bettors who have the means to influence the outcome of a judgement.

[4king]

I think its definitely possible. There are some people in this world who have more power than we can grasp. No issue with it.

[rbynxx]

Am I overthinking this, or do you also think big leagues are not as clean as they want us to believe?

No, you're not and that's valid take I guess. Well, we never know but so damn difficult to take that morale especially for a player or we see a coach that is always there everyday to make some grind or play the game they love. If those as well are staged, then we're just living a lie. I also got to those theories in the past but those thoughts that the league is fixed was because we're gambling on it and that's what made us have that kind of thinking. Agree with me or not, that's what really fuel us to believe those theories and forgot to just watch the sports that we love.

[rachael9385]

Manipulations can't happen in big leagues because they are careful about anything that might ruin their reputation. If you are familiar with these things you would know that they only happen in leagues that are not really prominent, mind you we only hear about it, there is no actual proof that any of these goes on. The only reason why people say a game is sold out is when the obvious outcome does not happen.

[Slow death]

To be honest, I prefer betting on Premier League, La Liga, Bundesliga, Ligue 1, Portuguese League, and Turkish League games because there's a huge skill difference between the top teams compared to the teams below them. This means the top teams don't even need to pay money to the lower-ranked teams to win; with their skilled players, they easily beat the teams below them. But in the second and third divisions, things are different, so there's possibly more corruption in the lower leagues.