How clean are the big leagues really?

[Agbe]

In corruption, the system is always clean and good but the individual in the system destroying the system. But such issue in the sports activities is a critical matter. We have discussed that there are some matches that fixed but there is no evidence to so that claim and as I said, live matches can't be manipulated unless the referee does otherwise like the way they did in the AFCON.

[Frankolala]

After the 2006 Calciopoli scandal in Serie A we have the right to question and doubt every big league. In the year 2006 a lot of spying of big teams in Italy like Juventus, Inter and Milan were buying referees expensive gifts where the owner of Inter at that time offered the most expensive Rolex watch to the referee of a very important game at the time. Many such cases also of the Juventus managing director who was the heavy weight Champion of cheating as he had corrupted a lot of referees. Based on such case I am always doubting any league no matter how big it is.

That was twenty years back and I believe that has made monitoring of big leagues on match manipulation to be very tight. The rich billionaires wouldn't try such this time again if not, they will be caught and you know what that means. This was why FIFA put the consequences on match fixing to be very harsh so that, people will think twice before they accept to manipulate the game.

[Agbamoni]

So what if some people behind the league are not really honest? What stops them from influencing officials or certain calls in the game? Not even the whole game needs to be fixed. Sometimes one call, one foul, one penalty, or one bad decision can already affect the spread, total score, or result.

Sure, there are bad eggs and good eggs in the sports industry. It is certain that in every department in the big leagues there will be some individuals who are not clean. It could be the officials, the referees, the managers, the league owners, or even FIFA itself. No one knows if the league is manipulated. The furthest we can go is to speculate about what happens when one wrong call is made.

[stadus]

Sure, there are bad eggs and good eggs in the sports industry. It is certain that in every department in the big leagues there will be some individuals who are not clean. It could be the officials, the referees, the managers, the league owners, or even FIFA itself. No one knows if the league is manipulated. The furthest we can go is to speculate about what happens when one wrong call is made.

That is what we bettors do, we speculate and then place our bet.

With this in mind, it will not be hard for us to make a decision because we just look at where the fix will likely happen, by choosing between 2 teams. When it is obvious that the public is favoring one side, the best strategy there is to bet against them. ( that is the simplest strategy)< just not sure if it worked.

[danadc]

It takes just two or three players to manipulate a match's outcome. The leagues can be legit, but the personal decisions of the players are totally out of control of the leagues. I do believe there is a lot of manipulation going on the big leagues, but we only know very few cases where players aren't careful enough to run their schemes discreetly.

Then we watch on the news cases involving relatives of the players placing big bets on them which don't seem to worth the risks. These are the blatant ones, but there must be many others going on in secret. After all, it's hard to prove an outcome was manipulated.

This has happened a lot in the Spanish League, it has been heavily criticized because it is said that only the referees do what suits them, it is something that everything is manipulated, rigged and yes, I have seen plays that are very obvious and the referees do not call them, that is something that cannot be denied, many referees have been suspended for that, so if it is true, things are very obvious in football now.

[Bigjoe33]

Am I overthinking this, or do you also think big leagues are not as clean as they want us to believe?

If it is related to match fixing, I actually think that smaller leagues have a higher chance of fixing. This is also related to promotion to higher leagues. 
Big leagues also have the potential for fixing, but this is more closely watched by many people. 
I don't think about this matter too seriously. I will still gamble with small amounts of money, even though there is a possibility of match fixing happening.

Same thoughts with you on this also. But like you said, I don't also really put my mind on such manipulations or the possibility of manipulations, because at the end, somehow, I still feel it falls down to the performance of each team. This is because, in so many matches, we have seen teams they officiate against, like the referee favours the other team, and at the end, the other teams still wins. Of course, the referee can't cancel goals that are too clean and real. So, if they keep scoring goals, they will end up winning

[Somegory]

You trying to figure out if some manipulation is ongoing with sports bets too? Maybe, but why should this bother you because it doesn't stop you been lucky and winning a bet.

Sports bets are easier because it's a challenge between two opposites, one needs to win so you have just two teams to choose from, whatever manipulation that might be happening in the background is not your problem.

Monitored or not I don't care, manipulated or not I don't care, one team needs to win and that's all, I will only hope that the team I bet on takes the win, still less complicated compared to casino games.

[Bluedrem]

I am also confused about this. How transparent are the big leagues really? Nowadays, the dominance of the Kachwaris has spread so much that even the big Raghavbowals are involved here. In most cases, the relatively weak teams of the leagues are bought by the big teams at the last minute where the gamblers also have a hand. In the end, they give up their matches and give other teams a chance to win.
However, I think the real beauty of the game is lost here. Then there is no good sports behavior. The matter is very enterprising.

[bitgolden]

It's not like we are overestimating our assumptions we cannot  come out and  categorically say that it's completely  clean, sometimes  when I watch a match and look at the officiating  you'll  sense  something  is either  wrong  with the official, you'll  see same incident  but different  penalties  by the official. i may want to extend  that to even the video  assistant  referees  the inconsistency  some  time  is fishy if you ask my opinion  it not that clean as we may think but FA are always  checking  the clubs  and even the players  if you could  remember  the case of Ivan Tony who was caugh  placing  a bet on him self week in week out he never get away with that as he was caught.

Due to technology and personal experience, it's never been hard to skip things that make matches manipulated or miserable because people have enough sense to understand how things are working and what could be happening.

Usually, officials make the first choice about the match result. In many cases, few incidents happen that make things more chaotic because this is already set and always part of games, which are going to be manipulated sometimes. Coaches have made decisions that increase the chances of miserable results. Now it's all understandable for people because they have been watching sports for decades and also have enough understanding about all related stuff.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Same thoughts with you on this also. But like you said, I don't also really put my mind on such manipulations or the possibility of manipulations, because at the end, somehow, I still feel it falls down to the performance of each team. This is because, in so many matches, we have seen teams they officiate against, like the referee favours the other team, and at the end, the other teams still wins. Of course, the referee can't cancel goals that are too clean and real. So, if they keep scoring goals, they will end up winning

Anyone who says that refereeing in football has been truly impartial is either crazy or doesn't watch the games. I clearly see things as they are, and it happens in almost every European league.

One of the teams most affected is Real Madrid. I hope that with the Negreira case, Florentino finally gets his act together, exposes them, and pushes until they finally give a verdict. If this comes to light, it will reveal one of the most serious cases of corruption in football.

[rachael9385]

In corruption, the system is always clean and good but the individual in the system destroying the system. But such issue in the sports activities is a critical matter. We have discussed that there are some matches that fixed but there is no evidence to so that claim and as I said, live matches can't be manipulated unless the referee does otherwise like the way they did in the AFCON.

That's the fact, a lot of bettors claim that matches are fixed but there are no evidence provided to back up their claims, they just say this things based on what they observe about the games and they aren't based on facts. In the aspect of live matches being manipulated I'm not so sure about it but it's definitely possible especially in leagues that are not really popular.

[len01]

In bigger markets, there may be some manipulation, but it's important to understand that it doesn't happen all the time. On the other hand, manipulation tends to occur more frequently in smaller markets.

Logically speaking, major leagues attract a much larger audience, and if manipulation takes place, it is far more visible. As a result, there is a higher chance that sanctions will be imposed on the league, referees, or whoever is involved in the manipulation. In contrast, smaller leagues have fewer viewers, and when manipulation occurs, there are simply not enough people paying attention or in a position to report such incidents.

[MRY]

In corruption, the system is always clean and good but the individual in the system destroying the system. But such issue in the sports activities is a critical matter. We have discussed that there are some matches that fixed but there is no evidence to so that claim and as I said, live matches can't be manipulated unless the referee does otherwise like the way they did in the AFCON.

That's the fact, a lot of bettors claim that matches are fixed but there are no evidence provided to back up their claims, they just say this things based on what they observe about the games and they aren't based on facts. In the aspect of live matches being manipulated I'm not so sure about it but it's definitely possible especially in leagues that are not really popular.

Distrust of cheating within sports is usually fuelled by feelings of disappointment caused by the outcome of the competitive activities which cannot be equated to expectations. Devoid of any reputable legal evidence, charges of conspiracy are but rumors among the audience. The risk of committing fraud is actually more high in the racing at lower levels with little cyber-monitoring and overseas media coverage.

[Peanutswar]

If the money matters with the management of the large events possible there is an under the table transactions. But most of the international games ive seen is they focus with the title tons of sponsors already paying even the players now I guess this could be depends like the other opponent already secured the spot and the others need to beat them in the match and now because they already secured possible other teams could do transaction to the opponents because it's both win-win to them. Possibly the first team get paid, also they secured the spot. Opponent team secured another spot for more chances. But of course, its disclose no one wanted to show off they are just throwing the game tons of issue occurs.

[Warkop]

After the 2006 Calciopoli scandal in Serie A we have the right to question and doubt every big league. In the year 2006 a lot of spying of big teams in Italy like Juventus, Inter and Milan were buying referees expensive gifts where the owner of Inter at that time offered the most expensive Rolex watch to the referee of a very important game at the time. Many such cases also of the Juventus managing director who was the heavy weight Champion of cheating as he had corrupted a lot of referees. Based on such case I am always doubting any league no matter how big it is.

That was twenty years back and I believe that has made monitoring of big leagues on match manipulation to be very tight. The rich billionaires wouldn't try such this time again if not, they will be caught and you know what that means. This was why FIFA put the consequences on match fixing to be very harsh so that, people will think twice before they accept to manipulate the game.

Was the incident intentional or was it just to bring down a club, because some observers and some cases that were handed down by the judge against Juventus with the case they experienced that the evidence did not show that Juventus was guilty, only their leadership did it all while the club and players were actually victims of this, But is FIFA itself clean from dirty things regarding leadership in football associations and several decisions that sometimes don't make sense, of course this all has the interference of bookies in football organizations. even not only the world of football but all sports can be manipulated by the mafia.