Is America slowly making itself the enemy of the world?

[Satofan44]

Nonsense, let's stop deluding ourselves that we know for a definite fact that the world would have been a better place without all those events. Do interventions usually work? They don't, but what about it if the alternatives are even worse? Are people in this thread so fucking stupid to believe that a world where Russia or China are the #1 superpowers would be better than the world under USA? If the "democratic" and "free" world is doing this to people in those places, do you have any idea what authoritarian and controlling regimes would do if they could? Be careful what you wish for, because you may have to reap the consequences of your wishes -- and then you will start crying to everyone else how it is unfair, and the future superpower is evil and it is all the fault of that superpower meanwhile you asked for it.

Are you afraid of Russia and China becoming superpowers?

Rather, your post is complete nonsense. Full of typical propaganda. When you are defending American wars that have killed millions of people. But you are calling other people stupid! You are talking dirty about Muslims like racist IQ and interbreeding. But the same you being completely silent about Israel's crime in Palestine and America's support for it. You are proof of how hypocritical a person can be

Stop shitposting without providing any coherent argument. "Because I said so" is not a valid argument at all. Who is the leading superpower of the world is no concern of mine, it does not effect me in any way and it never will -- it will affect people who are located in various places of strategic places or borders of countries and similar. That has nothing to do with the facts"

• They USA will do what it does.
• It is extremely likely that were the other powers the leading superpower that any violations by the USA would be nothing compared to what they would be doing.

If you complain about the status quo when the alternatives are so much worse, you are going to get a world in which the current wars and death will be a drop in the bucket. As far as Palestine is concerned, I do not care about it and neither do I care about Israel. Why should I, what are they to me? Radicals of each side want the other side dead. If powers were reversed, Palestine would be doing the same to Israel most likely as long as radicals are in big numbers.

Let me quote this again as well.

Iran is an example of a radical religious tyranny of inbred goat fuckers. Instead of criticizing their radicalism and fanaticism of worshiping a pedophile prophet, you are trying to make the #1 country of the world in democracy and freedom into the bad guy.  

[Texac]

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You are still hiding behind "it does not effect me'" and slang words without giving any appropriate argument. This is not a logical debate it is something of escapism
Now everyone knows very well what American leadership really mean. It is constant war, regime change, sanctions and support for its own crime-ridden allies, but singing always democracy and freedom


When someone brings up your hypocritical words, you are insulting him about his family and even his religion. But you are continiously ignoring the facts-

• Since World War II, America has carried out dozens of military interventions and coups. Which is the cause of death of millions of people in Latin America including Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Vietnam.
• Palestine issue: Israel is killing thousands of civilians with full US military and their political backed support. But you say "I do not care"! What a shameless!
  ohh yes, it is normal to say such opportunistic things while defending the party doing it.
• Iran issue: Calling an entire nation ''goat ____", (I can't write that word cause I am not bastard). And insulting their prophet is just filthy bigotry. Your such kind of talk cannot be arguments. When someone wants to hide his ignorance, he only uses slang words and abusive words. Just as Russia has the right to oppose NATO expansion, Iran has the full right to defend itself.

You claim that if Russia or China becomes the number 1 superpower, the situation will be worse??
But history tells us the opposite.
A multipolar world would lessen the capability of any single country to unilaterally bomb and impose sanction from time to time.
This is why BRICS is growing day by day.

You yourself are defending the status quo by calling others shitposters.
But this status-quo means the one-eyed policy of America.
Rules for thee, not for me,,, ?  

[Satofan44]

You are still hiding behind "it does not effect me'" and slang words without giving any appropriate argument. This is not a logical debate it is something of escapism

You asked me if I was afraid (emotional), "it does not affect me" is the proper response. A yes or no question does not require "logical debate".

You claim that if Russia or China becomes the number 1 superpower, the situation will be worse??
But history tells us the opposite.
A multipolar world would lessen the capability of any single country to unilaterally bomb and impose sanction from time to time.
This is why BRICS is growing day by day.

Stop making shit up, I have destroyed the lies of the multipolar world argument in another thread. It is proven beyond a doubt that the most bloodiest wars and chaotic times of humanity were during times when there was no superpower, when the world was multipolar. Stop shitposting and ask ChatGPT for help. To avoid wasting my time looking for my post, here is an AI confirmation. Stop repeating propaganda words from shitholes like Russia, Iran and China.

Era   Power Structure   Major Wars / Deaths
1815–1914 (Concert of Europe)   Multipolar   Numerous colonial wars, but Europe avoided continent-wide war for ~100 years
1914–1945   Multipolar   World War I and World War II; roughly 90+ million deaths combined
1945–1991   Bipolar (US–USSR)   Cold War, proxy wars in Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, but no direct US–Soviet war
1991–present   Mostly US-led unipolarity   Wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, sanctions regimes, interventions

Which was bloodiest?

The bloodiest period in modern history was arguably the multipolar system before 1945.

Trading the ability of one country to act unilaterally in order to get more wars and more death, genius tradeoff -- clear example of 3rd world butthurt idiots.

Iran is an example of a radical religious tyranny of inbred goat fuckers. Instead of criticizing their radicalism and fanaticism of worshiping a pedophile prophet, you are trying to make the #1 country of the world in democracy and freedom into the bad guy.  

[Texac]

Stop making shit up, I have destroyed the lies of the multipolar world argument in another thread. It is proven beyond a doubt that the most bloodiest wars and chaotic times of humanity were during times when there was no superpower, when the world was multipolar. Stop shitposting and ask ChatGPT for help. To avoid wasting my time looking for my post, here is an AI confirmation. Stop repeating propaganda words from shitholes like Russia, Iran and China.

Era   Power Structure   Major Wars / Deaths
1815–1914 (Concert of Europe)   Multipolar   Numerous colonial wars, but Europe avoided continent-wide war for ~100 years
1914–1945   Multipolar   World War I and World War II; roughly 90+ million deaths combined
1945–1991   Bipolar (US–USSR)   Cold War, proxy wars in Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, but no direct US–Soviet war
1991–present   Mostly US-led unipolarity   Wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, sanctions regimes, interventions
Which was bloodiest?
The bloodiest period in modern history was arguably the multipolar system before 1945.

If I say your multipolar table is completely misleading, will you give me another red tag?

Yes, World War I and II were terrible. But they happened before the start of the nuclear age. Due to the rivalry of European colonial empires in a multipolar world.

Today we live in a different reality of nuclear deterrence. A multipolar world with the strong presence of Russia, China and other countries will essentially prevent any single power from occasionally invading other countries or imposing sanctions on half the world as global police

You would rather see the history of America's Unipolar Moment from your AI.

From 1991 to present,
* More than 1 million people died in Iraq, including sanction
* More than 20 years of war and chaos in Afghanistan
* Turned Libya into total destruction and a slave market
* Continued drone attacks in Syria, Yemen
* Full support for Israel's destruction in Gaza, killing thousands of civilians

The US unipolar moment after 1991 has been one of the most destructive periods in modern history in terms of illegal war, regime change and civilian death.

No one is saying that the world will be perfect under another superpower.
But to ignore this American dead body count and claim that the current US-led system is the best is pure hypocrisy. This proves that you are a hypocrite.

And, your constant racist insults against Iranians and Muslims do not support your argument. They only reveal weakness. Whether you like it or not, a more balanced world order is already emerging. And your empire is declining, lets see how much more damage your empire can do before it falls

You are still hiding behind "it does not effect me'" and slang words without giving any appropriate argument. This is not a logical debate it is something of escapism

You asked me if I was afraid (emotional), "it does not affect me" is the proper response. A yes or no question does not require "logical debate".

This is a very weak excuse. When a major superpower use its power to impose sanction, start war and control the global economy, it affects everyone whether anyone personally admit it or not. Anyway, I will not argue with the fool anymore

[Exitoral]

I have said this many time. In reality, Trump is not the world’s problem, but the United States is

Under George Bush, they waged wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Later, Obama continued those same legacies, and it was during his tenure that the United States led Nato's intervention in Libya. Looking back at history, across all major and minor conflicts since ww2, there are hardly any that do not bear the imprint of the United States

They are not gradually becoming an enemy of world peace, they have been enemies of the world since birth

Nonsense, let's stop deluding ourselves that we know for a definite fact that the world would have been a better place without all those events. Do interventions usually work? They don't, but what about it if the alternatives are even worse? Are people in this thread so fucking stupid to believe that a world where Russia or China are the #1 superpowers would be better than the world under USA? If the "democratic" and "free" world is doing this to people in those places, do you have any idea what authoritarian and controlling regimes would do if they could? Be careful what you wish for, because you may have to reap the consequences of your wishes -- and then you will start crying to everyone else how it is unfair, and the future superpower is evil and it is all the fault of that superpower meanwhile you asked for it.

A world without the USA will be a better world. Are you witnessing the killings and bombing of countries done by the USA or how they sponsor terrorism to get what they want. Even recently, kidnapping a sitting president for her financial gain and calling it democracy. Are you really watching the news at all? How they supported Iraq in a deadly chemical bomb to till Iranians in the 1900s. I can go on and on and we won't leave here. And you are worried about Russia and China being world power. Are you really that serious to side their killings over another country that has not done the evil USA has done just because you fear the other countries being world power. Wow. I think you should be careful who you side.

Just imagine how China is ruling it's country and decided to rule the world like that. Where she kills corrupt leaders and hang pedophiles. Won't you like that. Or you want to tell me there are not corrupt leaders in USA occupying top offices who are pedophiles. I think I would like to see china be world power. AMERICA has had it fills already. Another will take her place. Even the Epstein files that is flying around doesn't even shock you for you to actually defend them. I am ashamed of you. Seriously. Backing up killing for the fear of another ruling. Wow.  I think I am have seen it all. I rest my case here.

[pooya87]

In international relation there are not eternal enemy or eternal friend, only eternal interest exist. Simply said the enemy of your enemy is your ally.

I wouldn't use terms such as "friend" or "ally" here. It is more like a coalition between Iran and Russia, and you are correct there is indeed a shared interest. Lets quickly review the past 26 years...

Roughly 26 years ago the US regime started invasion of West Asia and attacked multiple countries including but not limited to: Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Lebanon and Yemen. After murdering millions of innocent people and destabilizing the region and overthrowing governments (eg. the Iraqi government) the US regime established the largest terrorist group known as ISIS from the remainders of the Ba'athi regime and their al-Qaeda proxies.
The US regime unleashed this terror on the Eastern Bloc as a whole. Obviously it was in the interest of everyone in the bloc to counter that. Hence the coalition between Iran (+ Resistance) and Russia during WW4 to defeat the US-NATO-Takfiri Axis in West Asia and dismantle ISIS.

That coalition grew more as time went by and threat of the Axis grew, specially over the past couple of years during WW5 when we learned that the Zionist usurper of Ukraine, the former clown called Zelensky is cooperating with the Takfiri terrorists, training and arming them. We even saw his forces participate in the terrorist attacks in Syria on November 2024 to overthrow the legitimate government and establish the rule of al-Qaeda over Syria in Damascus.

This must extend much further in the future if you ask me and I believe it is specially after 2026.02.28 when the Axis started the Operation Epstein Distraction against Iran.
You see roughly 20 days into the war that the US regime started, Iran was carrying out one of its daily retaliatory strikes on the Axis positions. One of the many targets destroyed that night was in Emirates, possibly al-Zofreh airbase if I remember it. This is the military base from which the US regime launched the terrorist attack on the elementary school in Minab, Iran murdering 168 children between the ages of 7 to 14 in a triple tap strike to ensure not a single child could survive!!!
In Iran's retaliatory strikes, 21 Ukrainian terrorist were brought to justice after a heavy ballistic missile hit their stronghold with pinpoint precision and obliterated it and all the aircrafts inside. They were cooperating with the American child killers.

That is the declaration of war and what we've learned from the past 2 years is that Iran retaliates against terrorists and child killers, and that retaliation is extremely harsh but just.

[Satofan44]

A world without the USA will be a better world. Are you witnessing the killings and bombing of countries done by the USA or how they sponsor terrorism to get what they want. Even recently, kidnapping a sitting president for her financial gain and calling it democracy. Are you really watching the news at all? How they supported Iraq in a deadly chemical bomb to till Iranians in the 1900s. I can go on and on and we won't leave here. And you are worried about Russia and China being world power.

Maduro was not a president, he was a criminal that self-elected making his position invalid. USA does what needs to be done, and they will do it when the incentives to do it are rightfully aligned. Maduro was objectively only a piece of shit, they should have executed him instead of capturing him as most of the court processes are a waste of taxpayer money. Jailing people costs money that the prisoners do not deserve in most case.

Are you really that serious to side their killings over another country that has not done the evil USA has done just because you fear the other countries being world power. Wow. I think you should be careful who you side.

Both Russia as the USSR and China have done significantly more killing in their history than the USA has, it does not even come close in numbers.

Just imagine how China is ruling it's country and decided to rule the world like that. Where she kills corrupt leaders and hang pedophiles. Won't you like that. Or you want to tell me there are not corrupt leaders in USA occupying top offices who are pedophiles. I think I would like to see china be world power. AMERICA has had it fills already. Another will take her place. Even the Epstein files that is flying around doesn't even shock you for you to actually defend them. I am ashamed of you. Seriously. Backing up killing for the fear of another ruling. Wow.  I think I am have seen it all. I rest my case here.

Either you are naive or stupid. Not a single well connected person in the party is going away for anything, it is only the opposition and outcasts who get persecuted. They are full of pedophilia and various corruptions, that is why their military sucks despite the huge budget. The same happened in Russia. Until the start of the last war it was not so clear just how deeply corruption was going on in its military, a conservative estimate would put at least 50% of the budget being stolen through the supply and manufacturing chain. This is what you want for the world?

Iran is an example of a radical religious tyranny of inbred goat fuckers. Instead of criticizing their radicalism and fanaticism of worshiping a pedophile prophet, you are trying to make the #1 country of the world in democracy and freedom into the bad guy.  

How many times should I bring up facts or are users that stupid that they actually want data provided so that they can still reject actual facts?

That is the declaration of war and what we've learned from the past 2 years is that Iran retaliates against terrorists and child killers, and that retaliation is extremely harsh but just.

Keep taunting, and when someone one day wipes the country into dust with nukes you will cry foul. They are the bad guys, we were innocent the whole time, look at what they did! 

[DrBeer]

America are big game players, when one plan fails them they bring up another real fast and they're so involved in the world economy that it is hard to dissipate them. Whoever gave Trump the idea of going on direct war with Iran gave him a very bad advice. That war alone equates their actions with that of Putin and kidnapping Maduro showed the world they're thieves just doing everything to prey on another country's resource by force.

This has always been about resources so although I agree with what you said here but I don't think US regime's actions toward Iran was all because of "bad advice". I explained it months ago in my topic on US regime's destabilization wars too. It is only partly bad advice and their delusions, the rest is desperation.

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A very interesting thought. Let’s take that as a starting point and ask: What are Iran’s goals in actively supporting the terrorist war that Russia has unleashed against Ukraine? I think you’ll be consistent and won’t simply dismiss the fact that the Iranian regime provides very significant support to Russia, a terrorist state.
So-what are Iran’s strategic objectives in this terrorist war?

P.S. I REALLY hope you won’t write that Ukraine, in addition to attacking Russia and Belarus (as Kremlin propaganda has portrayed it), was also planning an attack on Iran! 

In international relation there are not eternal enemy or eternal friend, only eternal interest exist. Simply said the enemy of your enemy is your ally. Simply said your ally today is party which their interest is same with your interest. So relationship between Iran and Rusia not a shared value based but a shared interest based. Their common strategic interests are resucing US & west dominance, finding alternative for confronting US sanction and embargo, ruling regime try to protect their political existance from western pressure and after all, its money matter, both try for finding alternative trade, energy route and also payment settlement alternative. For Iran, Russia is balancing tools of western pressure, wich mean supporting Rusia can be strategic investment for near future.

Are you deliberately trying to manipulate now? Iran's partnership with Russia began long before Russia launched the terrorist war in Ukraine. But Iran became the first and largest supplier of shock weapons like Shaheddas and missiles to hit peaceful cities in Ukraine, to destroy homes, schools, hospitals, kindergartens.
And another question is that Russia attacked the US in Ukraine and they have a conflict ?  Are you serious ? 
Russia has situational relations with India, for example, when India started to use Russia as a raw material supply with cheap oil and the possibility of not paying in dollars for oil. That would be a good example.

[viljy]

The world is watching and this has caused countries to regain their stand and dropping the dollar. Forcing them to organise a new power called the BRICS. Building alternatives to the dollar dominance. The world is slowly regaining it stand in the world of power.

There is no need to exaggerate the importance of BRICS. This is a very conditional association that was artificially created. What can bring Brazil, South Africa, and Russia closer together? They are all located on different continents. China, India, and Russia may have some common interests. However, there are also contradictions and mutual distrust among these three countries. Therefore, BRICS has never been or will ever be an alternative economic pole.

China, on the other hand, is a real competitor to the United States. However, China is completely dependent on foreign markets, as its economic model is completely export-oriented, and this is its vulnerability. In general, China and the United States are very much interdependent, just like the production department and the administration of the same factory.

[Oluwa-btc]

Trump's US has indeed messed up, but I don't see a better organization in the future BRICS either. Time will tell when conflicting interests arise. Its leadership ulterior motives will crumble the association in the future. The US-led leadership and organisation started nicely as well, even better than BRICS's. In the end all of them are only looking for more relevance and power, and when they get it, you shall see their true nature.

Will America  ever face serious consequences for her past actions or will she continue to cause terror and more atrocities in the world?

I believe there will be severe consequences for these actions, directly and indirectly, except the next presidents start thinking differently.

All aggressive empires ended eventually. It could take 250 years and more but one thing is certain, the end and nothing in the world can halt the uprising of the global south.
It will sound stupid and ridiculous, but it is true, it is the time for the multipolar world to reign hate it or love. Funny enough every incoming president of the United States has just one thought, "Everything they do is for the glory of Washington" And OP, I think yes is the answer to the top, they literally let their government get away with too much.