Is America slowly making itself the enemy of the world?

[Swordsoffreedom]

USA, and not just trump, but USA as a whole, has always attacked other nations. And then they say, that nation was a terrorist nation that was a threat to the world. It happened same at Iraq, Afghanistan, now Iran and many more examples, even in Vietnam. It is not about them thinking they are right, it is about the fact that we are seeing how things are changing for the long term.

We should not be really considering how this is good for the world, why wasn't it France that did it, why wasn't it UK, or Germany, or Italy, or China, or any other place? We are seeing USA do this all the time and nobody else. So they want us to believe, there is a bad nation, and only USA can stop them, and they are doing us a favour

I have said this many time. In reality, Trump is not the world’s problem, but the United States is

Under George Bush, they waged wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Later, Obama continued those same legacies, and it was during his tenure that the United States led Nato's intervention in Libya. Looking back at history, across all major and minor conflicts since ww2, there are hardly any that do not bear the imprint of the United States

They are not gradually becoming an enemy of world peace, they have been enemies of the world since birth.


Source: nationalherald_nh

[Satofan44]

I have said this many time. In reality, Trump is not the world’s problem, but the United States is

Under George Bush, they waged wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Later, Obama continued those same legacies, and it was during his tenure that the United States led Nato's intervention in Libya. Looking back at history, across all major and minor conflicts since ww2, there are hardly any that do not bear the imprint of the United States

They are not gradually becoming an enemy of world peace, they have been enemies of the world since birth

Nonsense, let's stop deluding ourselves that we know for a definite fact that the world would have been a better place without all those events. Do interventions usually work? They don't, but what about it if the alternatives are even worse? Are people in this thread so fucking stupid to believe that a world where Russia or China are the #1 superpowers would be better than the world under USA? If the "democratic" and "free" world is doing this to people in those places, do you have any idea what authoritarian and controlling regimes would do if they could? Be careful what you wish for, because you may have to reap the consequences of your wishes -- and then you will start crying to everyone else how it is unfair, and the future superpower is evil and it is all the fault of that superpower meanwhile you asked for it.

Yes and the radical degenerate Muslims that are endlessly interbreeding are the saviors of the world, they bring freedom and prosperity to wherever they go. Do you want data on the average IQ in those places or the percentage of interbreeding first? How about the rate of marrying underage children?   The USA is the most responsible for both advancements in freedoms and technologies across all the sectors that are used in the modern world, had the USA not existed you have no idea what kind of state you would be living in.

Not a single person here has provided an coherent argument or a substantial alternative that has a possibility in plausible reality. There will never be a case where "America" is simply gone, there can only be a case where it is replaced by someone much worse and you will receive even more intervention and subjugation. Perhaps we will even see a return of slavery.

[Jessie2121]

I have said this many time. In reality, Trump is not the world’s problem, but the United States is

Under George Bush, they waged wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Later, Obama continued those same legacies, and it was during his tenure that the United States led Nato's intervention in Libya. Looking back at history, across all major and minor conflicts since ww2, there are hardly any that do not bear the imprint of the United States

They are not gradually becoming an enemy of world peace, they have been enemies of the world since birth.


Source: nationalherald_nh

For me I won't say US is the problem but the president in power, the country doesn't have a problem but the sets of persons acting as the president of the country and if they don't carry out some of these assignments in bombing all these countries on that picture I don't think the military will do it on their own, let's keep aside the situation that made them bomb the other countries. This is what we have to face and if you check the issues, they are not really that strong compared to the current problem in Iran and that of Nigeria if I must use them as an example but sometimes US actions are valid, we shouldn't take that part out of the equation.

[Parveziqbal123]

Yes absolutely, in history Americans leaders are dictators and always violate laws and demonstrate democracy. Currently Trump is against the Islamic countries and he has control on them fully. Because America have full power and villain of the world, anytime he can attack if any Islamic country doesn't obey his order. If we look  markets, Trump is imposing tariffs on imports, so online sellers and traders are facing severe consequences and their imbalances in export and import
 

[el kaka22]

Slowly? Now??? Where the hell have you been for the past 30 years mate? USA has been the enemy of the world since it was freckling founded. They did spend an awful amount of time first getting their own independence, and then fighting each other.

But since the second world war, they had absolutely zero rightful wars, that was the last one, and they have murdered, pillaged, raped and destroyed plenty of countries. Either sometimes by straight up military operation, and sometimes with CIA and putting people into other countries to create dissidents.

[bitgolden]

The United States is a superpower and has remained at the absolute top, with no one able to challenge its leading position for many decades. That is undeniable.

But things are clearly changing. China has risen to become the world's second-largest economy and is challenging the US in almost every area, from technology and trade to geopolitical influence. At the same time, the rise of BRICS is creating significant pressure on the dominant position of the USD. The power of the United States has never faced so many challenges at the same time as it does now.

To be fair, we cannot be certain whether China and the BRICS can overthrow American dominance. But I agree with you on one thing: nothing lasts forever. The time will come when American dominance will collapse, and that is inevitable.

That is what happens when you build a country that spends more on miliary than the next highest spending 25 countries combined. Military power means a lot in this world, so much so that they can literally disrupt elections and get whoever they want elected, and if not, they attack and take what they want.

Iranian oil is what they want next, bhut it is not going to eb easy to topple that regime and put some puppet there who will sold their oil to American companies. Which is why they are angry right now and fighting.

[Adiljutt156]

USA, and not just trump, but USA as a whole, has always attacked other nations. And then they say, that nation was a terrorist nation that was a threat to the world. It happened same at Iraq, Afghanistan, now Iran and many more examples, even in Vietnam. It is not about them thinking they are right, it is about the fact that we are seeing how things are changing for the long term.

We should not be really considering how this is good for the world, why wasn't it France that did it, why wasn't it UK, or Germany, or Italy, or China, or any other place? We are seeing USA do this all the time and nobody else. So they want us to believe, there is a bad nation, and only USA can stop them, and they are doing us a favour

America is the enemy of all the countries which are present on the map of the World because they want to make their country strong and for this reason they are making their enemies and they are trying to be opponent of many countries. They did many wars from which few war won by America and most of the Wars lost by America but America always try to apply pressure of their bad economy on the World and Dollar currency they made international currency to escape the money from the pocket of poor people and all countries are angry because of the War which did by America. Every war has severe effects and America want to take resources from all countries and they want to be strong from all point of views.

[Swordsoffreedom]

Iranian oil is what they want next, bhut it is not going to eb easy to topple that regime and put some puppet there who will sold their oil to American companies. Which is why they are angry right now and fighting.

My view on the conflict is not only about Iran's oil but also deeper underlying causes. Oil and nuclear issues are only a small part, and merely a pretext to legitimize the United States' aggressive action.

The real issue is the weakening of the USD and petrodollar system, combined with the US's eroding influence in the region.

Looking back at history, before Iran, the United States attacked Iraq under Saddam Hussein after it moved to sell oil in euros around 2000. Then came Libya, when Gaddafi was planning a gold dinar to replace USD in the African oil trade.

It all relates to the position of the USD and the petrodollar, because these are key factors that help the United States dominate the world.

[Uhwuchukwu53]

Power is the most deficult thing to control as it enthusicate mostly the one back with weapon more powerful than others, what I see about this whole issue is a matter of a strong man not allowing another strong to take his position, power tossle, American may not focused focus on their oil at first be seen them as people who is about leaving their cage and whose freedom can't be controlled anymore, no way that Iran will have all sophisticated weapon like nuclear power and still fear with the level of courage and you know what it means against the US, all the attack nation in one way directly or indirectly will jave something US is afraid of in other not to jeopardize their position need wage war against before it happens, but haven't this at all angles with many nations will affect them in future because collaboration to fight back may occur.

[laijsica]

Yes absolutely, in history Americans leaders are dictators and always violate laws and demonstrate democracy. Currently Trump is against the Islamic countries and he has control on them fully. Because America have full power and villain of the world, anytime he can attack if any Islamic country doesn't obey his order. If we look  markets, Trump is imposing tariffs on imports, so online sellers and traders are facing severe consequences and their imbalances in export and import
 

It is worth mentioning that due to Trump's unilateral policy, their sole dominance in the world is under threat. Previously, almost every country in the world respected them and respected their decisions, but nowadays most countries do not trust the USA. Many countries are not accepting their policy of maintaining sole dominance because they are not fair to the countries. They are responsible for destroying the balance of power in the world because poor and developing countries are choosing their alternative power.

After Trump won the election, the tariff policy that he imposed on different countries of the world has led to many countries taking effective measures to find alternative markets. Businessmen have suffered financially but they are adopting a policy of diversified expansion instead of one-sided expansion of their markets. Reducing dependence on a single country means getting used to decentralized policies.

[Satofan44]

Slowly? Now??? Where the hell have you been for the past 30 years mate? USA has been the enemy of the world since it was freckling founded. They did spend an awful amount of time first getting their own independence, and then fighting each other.

But since the second world war, they had absolutely zero rightful wars, that was the last one, and they have murdered, pillaged, raped and destroyed plenty of countries. Either sometimes by straight up military operation, and sometimes with CIA and putting people into other countries to create dissidents.

Rightful wars? Who decides what is a rightful war, the political leaders of your shithole country or their religious zealots? You do not get to decide what is a rightful war and what isn't, any more than someone else does. If you think that you do, then other people do as well -- and by that, each war that America was in was righteous. Make up your mind, otherwise you will just be an inconsistent hypocrite.

The real issue is the weakening of the USD and petrodollar system, combined with the US's eroding influence in the region.

Stop making up things. The devaluation of the USD was part of the policy of the Trump government, it has been known far and wide and many have criticized these including even people from their own party. Therefore, don't start making shit up that this is something that is happening outside of their own control.

It all relates to the position of the USD and the petrodollar, because these are key factors that help the United States dominate the world.

In this particular case, no. Clearly you do not understand what would happen if Iran could actually launch a nuke on Israel. If they could, they would -- luckily for everyone else 3rd world radical goat fuckers do not posses such weapons. Nevertheless this aspect is better suited for the politics section.

It is worth mentioning that due to Trump's unilateral policy, their sole dominance in the world is under threat. Previously, almost every country in the world respected them and respected their decisions, but nowadays most countries do not trust the USA. Many countries are not accepting their policy of maintaining sole dominance because they are not fair to the countries. They are responsible for destroying the balance of power in the world because poor and developing countries are choosing their alternative power.

Complete nonsense again. Fixing unfair trade deals is equal to being "not fair"?  Talk about the entitlement from the 3rd world shitholes, you are hereby proving that Trump and everyone who supported these decisions were right. Countries were abusing the one-sided trade deals and aid without basically giving anything in return. The shitholes kept taking, and they couldn't even evolve beyond being savages to a point that they understand that they should be grateful for what they were getting.

Reducing dependence on a single country means getting used to decentralized policies.

That's literally not what is happening. The system is centralized, so whether you are talking about a single buyers or 5 buyers in a centralized system the whole thing is still centralized.

[puloweh555]

Slowly? Now??? Where the hell have you been for the past 30 years mate? USA has been the enemy of the world since it was freckling founded. They did spend an awful amount of time first getting their own independence, and then fighting each other.

But since the second world war, they had absolutely zero rightful wars, that was the last one, and they have murdered, pillaged, raped and destroyed plenty of countries. Either sometimes by straight up military operation, and sometimes with CIA and putting people into other countries to create dissidents.

America psychologically has a tendency to always want to be number one. So, if they want to remain number one they will try to dominate by any means necessary. They won't be satisfied with just being a spectator they will try to make a country submit to them. If anyone rebels or refuses to cooperate, they will provoke or create propaganda that will destroy that country. Just look at America history of propaganda against other countries most recently Venezuela which they also violated international law.

The same thing is happening now with Iran. They will do anything to spread propaganda to attack other countries. Of course, attacking Iran will slowly make them an enemy of the world because the war disrupts vital global routes. Why can it be said that they are slowly becoming an enemy of the world? To this day, many countries are unwilling to assist the US in a war with Iran, and many have even openly rejected Trump's invitation. Now almost all countries in the Middle East have US military bases, from here we already understand the meaning of American bases in the Middle East.

[programmer3666]

America has a history of backing dictators, funding wars, overthrowing government. The list is long. All this was done just for American interest. The continuous violation of human rights and preaching of democracy at the other side. Doesn't sit right. And she has never been held accountable for her actions.

The problem is that once America commits such things, nobody imposes sanctions on them. But somehow impose sanctions to countries that has done an inch of the atrocities they themselves have committed.

The world is watching and this has caused countries to regain their stand and dropping the dollar. Forcing them to organise a new power called the BRICS. Building alternatives to the dollar dominance. The world is slowly regaining it stand in the world of power.

Will America  ever face serious consequences for her past actions or will she continue to cause terror and more atrocities in the world?

To be fair, this is not a new criticism of the US. The idea of America acting like the world's police has made many countries dislike its foreign policy over the years. Many people feel that the US constantly tries to export its values, influence other governments and sometimes impose its culture and interests on other nations. That is why countries like China, Russia and members of BRICS are pushing for alternatives and trying to reduce dependence on the US dollar. Whether one agrees with them or not, a lot of nations want a more balanced world where no single country has too much influence.

[Satofan44]

America psychologically has a tendency to always want to be number one. So, if they want to remain number one they will try to dominate by any means necessary. They won't be satisfied with just being a spectator they will try to make a country submit to them. If anyone rebels or refuses to cooperate, they will provoke or create propaganda that will destroy that country. Just look at America history of propaganda against other countries most recently Venezuela which they also violated international law.

America is a country, it does not have psychology of anything as countries do not have psychologies. You may want to ref er to the political culture, the leaders or the people in terms of "psychology", but not of the country. The middle part of the post is also broken as you try to imply that wanting to be number One is wrong, only the weakest and most shittiest people and countries would not want that. Lastly, there was no violation of international law in the case of the Venezuelan intervention. Maduro was not a properly elected president, therefore his removal can not be illegal.

The same thing is happening now with Iran. They will do anything to spread propaganda to attack other countries. Of course, attacking Iran will slowly make them an enemy of the world because the war disrupts vital global routes. Why can it be said that they are slowly becoming an enemy of the world? To this day, many countries are unwilling to assist the US in a war with Iran, and many have even openly rejected Trump's invitation. Now almost all countries in the Middle East have US military bases, from here we already understand the meaning of American bases in the Middle East.

What the fuck are you talking about? Iran is an example of a radical religious tyranny of inbred goat fuckers. Instead of criticizing their radicalism and fanaticism of worshiping a pedophile prophet, you are trying to make the #1 country of the world in democracy and freedom into the bad guy.  

To be fair, this is not a new criticism of the US. The idea of America acting like the world's police has made many countries dislike its foreign policy over the years. Many people feel that the US constantly tries to export its values, influence other governments and sometimes impose its culture and interests on other nations. That is why countries like China, Russia and members of BRICS are pushing for alternatives and trying to reduce dependence on the US dollar. Whether one agrees with them or not, a lot of nations want a more balanced world where no single country has too much influence.

If your values and technology is currently the best in the world relatively speaking, then it should be exported to everywhere. You don't mean to say that instead of American values, we should embrace Russian or Chinese values instead? 

[abhiseshakana]

I have said this many time. In reality, Trump is not the world’s problem, but the United States is

Under George Bush, they waged wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Later, Obama continued those same legacies, and it was during his tenure that the United States led Nato's intervention in Libya. Looking back at history, across all major and minor conflicts since ww2, there are hardly any that do not bear the imprint of the United States

They are not gradually becoming an enemy of world peace, they have been enemies of the world since birth.

I see even POTUS change, US has constant strategic policy pattern, US only an effective tools to maintain global structuire which benefiting global elite from multi sectoral. So it is not about white house official but how to maintain US effectiveness for achieving interests of the elite behind the system. US deliberately maintained major conflict on specific level, because instability can create demand for debt, energy, weapon and financial control. So simply said, If USD still dominant, petrodollar still running, and US can proejecting their power especially mulitary and financially through the world, there no incentive to replace the system for elite who benefited from running system.

If there are another super power nation emerges and those nations more effective for safeguarding and expanding elite's interest, center of global power will be change from US to those other country.

[pooya87]

I see even POTUS change, US has constant strategic policy pattern, US only an effective tools to maintain global structuire which benefiting global elite from multi sectoral. So it is not about white house official but how to maintain US effectiveness for achieving interests of the elite behind the system.

Exactly. This has always been about the benefit of the "regime" which is now known globally as "The Epstein Class". Those ultra rich who control everything in the West while brainwashing their subjects into believing they have freedom while the Epstein Class rapes children in their private islands.

That kind of power and control brings about addiction as well. Which is why they cannot understand the new realities of the world where they don't have any power any more. So they try to hang on to some of that power by starting as many wars as they can whilst showing the world their true face as a pariah.

[Fortify]

America has a history of backing dictators, funding wars, overthrowing government. The list is long. All this was done just for American interest. The continuous violation of human rights and preaching of democracy at the other side. Doesn't sit right. And she has never been held accountable for her actions.

The problem is that once America commits such things, nobody imposes sanctions on them. But somehow impose sanctions to countries that has done an inch of the atrocities they themselves have committed.

The world is watching and this has caused countries to regain their stand and dropping the dollar. Forcing them to organise a new power called the BRICS. Building alternatives to the dollar dominance. The world is slowly regaining it stand in the world of power.

Will America  ever face serious consequences for her past actions or will she continue to cause terror and more atrocities in the world?

Pretending like there is one single or particular version of a democratic country is incredibly dumb. The US and most other countries have always been a bit of a pendulum, swinging from left to right on politics. There were institutions that sometimes kept policies going regardless of who was in power purely because there was some kind of embedded inertia in a certain idea - like keeping Cuba isolated as a dictatorship neighbor. They have overthrown a lot of leaders in the past and it's hard to see the consequences have led to improvement in many places, most recently in Afghanistan and Iraq. The trouble might lie within the military industrial political complex, where there is a lot of money sloshing around in the military yet you can only build stockpiles up so high - eventually you need to spend and deplete so they can continue to siphon off these huge amounts that appear in the budget every year.

[DrBeer]

America are big game players, when one plan fails them they bring up another real fast and they're so involved in the world economy that it is hard to dissipate them. Whoever gave Trump the idea of going on direct war with Iran gave him a very bad advice. That war alone equates their actions with that of Putin and kidnapping Maduro showed the world they're thieves just doing everything to prey on another country's resource by force.

This has always been about resources so although I agree with what you said here but I don't think US regime's actions toward Iran was all because of "bad advice". I explained it months ago in my topic on US regime's destabilization wars too. It is only partly bad advice and their delusions, the rest is desperation.

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A very interesting thought. Let’s take that as a starting point and ask: What are Iran’s goals in actively supporting the terrorist war that Russia has unleashed against Ukraine? I think you’ll be consistent and won’t simply dismiss the fact that the Iranian regime provides very significant support to Russia, a terrorist state.
So-what are Iran’s strategic objectives in this terrorist war?

P.S. I REALLY hope you won’t write that Ukraine, in addition to attacking Russia and Belarus (as Kremlin propaganda has portrayed it), was also planning an attack on Iran! 

[abhiseshakana]

America are big game players, when one plan fails them they bring up another real fast and they're so involved in the world economy that it is hard to dissipate them. Whoever gave Trump the idea of going on direct war with Iran gave him a very bad advice. That war alone equates their actions with that of Putin and kidnapping Maduro showed the world they're thieves just doing everything to prey on another country's resource by force.

This has always been about resources so although I agree with what you said here but I don't think US regime's actions toward Iran was all because of "bad advice". I explained it months ago in my topic on US regime's destabilization wars too. It is only partly bad advice and their delusions, the rest is desperation.

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A very interesting thought. Let’s take that as a starting point and ask: What are Iran’s goals in actively supporting the terrorist war that Russia has unleashed against Ukraine? I think you’ll be consistent and won’t simply dismiss the fact that the Iranian regime provides very significant support to Russia, a terrorist state.
So-what are Iran’s strategic objectives in this terrorist war?

P.S. I REALLY hope you won’t write that Ukraine, in addition to attacking Russia and Belarus (as Kremlin propaganda has portrayed it), was also planning an attack on Iran! 

In international relation there are not eternal enemy or eternal friend, only eternal interest exist. Simply said the enemy of your enemy is your ally. Simply said your ally today is party which their interest is same with your interest. So relationship between Iran and Rusia not a shared value based but a shared interest based. Their common strategic interests are resucing US & west dominance, finding alternative for confronting US sanction and embargo, ruling regime try to protect their political existance from western pressure and after all, its money matter, both try for finding alternative trade, energy route and also payment settlement alternative. For Iran, Russia is balancing tools of western pressure, wich mean supporting Rusia can be strategic investment for near future.

[Texac]

I can confidently say that history will repeat itself, and the question is not whether it will happen, but when it will happen.

As far as I know, written civilization and organized states emerged around 5000 years ago. Since then, there have been hundreds of empires, large and small, including several prominent ones like the examples you mentioned, and every one of them has become part of history. So what is so special about the United States that would make it an exception?

There are no exceptions, but to be fair, nobody knows how much longer the American empire will last. But yes, it is unlikely to happen in the near future because history shows that the decline of an empire usually takes decades.

Empires rise and fall, at least that is what history says. America is no exception. America was behind all major war and troubles, like- Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, etc since world war II

The fact is they do not bring freedom and democracy they only bring chaos, destruction and control for their own interest

Nonsense, let's stop deluding ourselves that we know for a definite fact that the world would have been a better place without all those events. Do interventions usually work? They don't, but what about it if the alternatives are even worse? Are people in this thread so fucking stupid to believe that a world where Russia or China are the #1 superpowers would be better than the world under USA? If the "democratic" and "free" world is doing this to people in those places, do you have any idea what authoritarian and controlling regimes would do if they could? Be careful what you wish for, because you may have to reap the consequences of your wishes -- and then you will start crying to everyone else how it is unfair, and the future superpower is evil and it is all the fault of that superpower meanwhile you asked for it.

Are you afraid of Russia and China becoming superpowers?

Rather, your post is complete nonsense. Full of typical propaganda. When you are defending American wars that have killed millions of people. But you are calling other people stupid! You are talking dirty about Muslims like racist IQ and interbreeding. But the same you being completely silent about Israel's crime in Palestine and America's support for it. You are proof of how hypocritical a person can be