Been popular doesn't make them more smarter than you are

[YellowSwap]

Beginners don't let anyone or any popular figure deceive you.
The simplest thing that anyone can do in this crypto space is proof that they are Satoshi Nakamoto.

It doesn't cost a thing.
Log in to Nakamoto's Bitcointalk account.
Sign messages using Nakamoto's very own Bitcoin wallet address.

People will believe you, atleast start from this, anything apart from these is complete lies, avoid Jack Dorsey, Craig Wright and others, people on here even understand how proof of ownership on bitcoin network works more than them, they are idiots.

If they understood what it means to sign your Bitcoin address as proof of ownership they wouldn't come out claiming to be real Nakamoto, the future is in your hands, do not be fooled.

[Donk1]

​I believe all this are just noises because if Satoshi wanted himself to be revealed then he wouldn't have ever considered disappearing and becoming the greatest mystery in the bitcoin history. Basically I see that as a thought out strategy he executed just to ensure bitcoin remains decentralized....

​That said if there is no proof then folks like that are just looking to attract the media consent, which is what they mostly do. So yeah countless people have tried most of them barely even know what bitcoin is, let alone how to actually prove they created it....

[Zaguru12]

It doesn't cost a thing.
Log in to Nakamoto's Bitcointalk account.
Sign messages using Nakamoto's very own Bitcoin wallet address.

I know this is exclusive to Satoshi account because he cannot obviously sell off his account to another person and yes should anyone be able to actually sign a message from the famous Satoshi bitcoin address which holds the 1 million plus bitcoin I think it will be hard to actually not believe that such person is the real Satoshi.

But aside Satoshi now, I think like this forum signing of message from an address is not even regarded again as the ultimate ownership proof anymore because account sellers now usually even give the buyer the access to sign this messages on that address either handing over the keys of the address to them or doing it for them. So using addressing signing message now as a proof of ownership this days is very subjective to the person in question

[Exitoral]

Popularity should never, in the first place, be a valid reason to trust somebody. Normally, cryptographic proof is a better reason to trust something than public influence. You have seen over time how influential or popular people use others for their own selfish gain. Be wise, people.

I still don't know why people continue to listen to these people after proof that they have used others or are just chasing clout. It's best that people focus more on evidence than just noise.

[SamReomo]

The simplest thing that anyone can do in this crypto space is proof that they are Satoshi Nakamoto.

Anyone who claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto is most probably a liar because Satoshi left Bitcoin for community whoever Satoshi was is a mystery and I believe anyone who claims to be Satoshi is just trying to gain attention and nothing else. The real Satoshi Nakamoto will never claim that he's Satoshi Nakamoto because for someone who's created Bitcoin, decentralization and privacy matters more than fame and that's why everyone should understand that the real Satoshi Nakamoto might never reveal his true identity even if he's still alive.

[Lucius]

~snip~
It doesn't cost a thing.
Log in to Nakamoto's Bitcointalk account.
Sign messages using Nakamoto's very own Bitcoin wallet address.

It's not as simple as it seems.

As far as I know, Satoshi's account is somehow banned/locked so that the real owner cannot just log in even if he wants to without proving that it is really his account. Furthermore, even if a signed message appears from one of the BTC addresses that are connected to Satoshi, who can say with certainty that it is really Satoshi and not someone who came into possession of his private keys?

For those who don't know, someone signed a message with the BTC address used by Hal Finney more than ten years after his death, but it certainly wasn't him unless he thawed out of the cryogenic chamber, invented a cure for his illness, and recovered.

[Alpha Marine]

Has Jack Dorsey ever claimed to be Satoshi? I've never seen or heard him make such claims. In fact, he has flatly said that he is not Satoshi, even though he added statements like "If I were him, would I tell you?"
Craig Wright, on the other hand, is an idiot who has embarrassed himself in and out of court multiple times because of his claim to be Satoshi. I don't think anybody should take him seriously.

It's true, popularity does not mean the person knows better or is smarter than you. There are many things that make people popular.  Even if the person is smarter than you, it doesn't mean he knows more than you in everything, or some of their views can be wrong or flawed.

[mcdouglasx]

Beginners don't let anyone or any popular figure deceive you.
The simplest thing that anyone can do in this crypto space is proof that they are Satoshi Nakamoto.

It doesn't cost a thing.
Log in to Nakamoto's Bitcointalk account.
Sign messages using Nakamoto's very own Bitcoin wallet address.

Let's be honest, Satoshi isn't going to appear. It's just common sense; it's part of Bitcoin's lore not knowing his true identity. And if it were ever revealed, it would lose its appeal over time. He'd be hounded by paparazzi, secrets he, like every human being, once had would be uncovered, and it would all turn into an unstable witch hunt against him. So no, no matter how much curiosity gets the better of some people, we're never going to see this, at least not by Satoshi's own choice.

[Renampun]

As far as I know, Satoshi's account is locked and no one can access it anymore, the only way is to sign a message from a wallet address that indicates that it belongs to Satoshi, but still, signing the message alone is not enough, he needs to prove further that he is the real Satoshi, so for anyone it will be more difficult to prove that they are Satoshi because they have to explain more evidence. moreover, with the statement that Satoshi has left Bitcoin, I think that the speculation about who Satoshi really is should be over because there is no point in prolonging this.

[hd49728]

As far as I know, Satoshi's account is locked and no one can access it anymore, the only way is to sign a message from a wallet address that indicates that it belongs to Satoshi, but still, signing the message alone is not enough, he needs to prove further that he is the real Satoshi, so for anyone it will be more difficult to prove that they are Satoshi because they have to explain more evidence. moreover, with the statement that Satoshi has left Bitcoin, I think that the speculation about who Satoshi really is should be over because there is no point in prolonging this.

Your information is correct and this thread is about that.
Will "satoshi" ever login again?

theymos replied.

His account is locked, so no. If he wants to claim his account, he'll have to contact me with a PGP signature.

[Orpichukwu]

If they understood what it means to sign your Bitcoin address as proof of ownership they wouldn't come out claiming to be real Nakamoto, the future is in your hands, do not be fooled.

They understand, but their ignorance wants them to skip that part. Some of the people who are claiming to be Satoshi, including the renowned Faketoshi, know how Bitcoin works to some extent. They feel like presenting a few facts and data could blind the people from looking at the main thing that actually matters, and as sophisticated as things are getting now, signing messages with Satoshi's address might not be enough to prove anything, as there will be some questions which need to be answered and proven. For the forum account, a few members above already gave the answer of how it's locked from being accessed unless the admin unlocks it.

[Sammye3]

There is no knowledge that surpasses individual brilliance. Depending on an alpha all the time could easily cause manipulation and huge loss at last.

There are several stories of a popular guru advertising a project and they drop "referral code" for new users to gain benefits, of which after that the project flops and they are out with their benefits. It is high time we all make personal research and do not depend solely on big names for the right moves.

Without a proper understanding of this space, you would copy every single move the so called "experts" make and probably end up in more losses. It's best to stay neutral, follow your guts and don't get too greedy.

[YellowSwap]

~snip~
It doesn't cost a thing.
Log in to Nakamoto's Bitcointalk account.
Sign messages using Nakamoto's very own Bitcoin wallet address.

It's not as simple as it seems.

As far as I know, Satoshi's account is somehow banned/locked so that the real owner cannot just log in even if he wants to without proving that it is really his account. Furthermore, even if a signed message appears from one of the BTC addresses that are connected to Satoshi, who can say with certainty that it is really Satoshi and not someone who came into possession of his private keys?

For those who don't know, someone signed a message with the BTC address used by Hal Finney more than ten years after his death, but it certainly wasn't him unless he thawed out of the cryogenic chamber, invented a cure for his illness, and recovered.

I understand you, but it's not even happening, no one made it to his account or one of Nakamoto's bitcoin address yet, if they could then we can be having discussions about if still they are real or not.

Hal Finney shouldn't be compared with Satoshi Nakamoto, we don't how know how he chose to keep his recovery seed before he passed away, someone using Hal Finney bitcoin address is different from someone using Satoshis Bitcoin address.

About satoshis account been banned or locked, why is that? I thought he created this forum? Or it's one of those security protocol to avoid possible account access in the future? Anyways.

[MusaMohamed]

Beginners don't let anyone or any popular figure deceive you.
The simplest thing that anyone can do in this crypto space is proof that they are Satoshi Nakamoto.

It doesn't cost a thing.
Log in to Nakamoto's Bitcointalk account.
Sign messages using Nakamoto's very own Bitcoin wallet address.

If someone actually signs a message from Satoshi Nakamoto's used Bitcoin addresses in the past, or from his known PGP key, how will it affect my psychology, feeling, action, and plan for my Bitcoin investment, portfolio and my bitcoin?

I don't see anything will seriously happen with me as well as my bitcoins.

Satoshi Nakamoto identity can be known, not known in the future or forever, or he might return with verification but all these things won't affect my investment decisions because I know that Satoshi Nakamoto can not freeze my Bitcoin wallets, UTXOs, can not steal my bitcoins, can not individually change Bitcoin protocol.

[terrific]

Anyone who claims to be satoshi, the community has already given the verdict about them and they become a joke.
That's the real thing when someone claims they're satoshi in words but can't prove it in other ways like signing messages, they become the circus.
I think what matters now is the opinion of these known people about the market and how they can easily deceive people.
Like being so enthusiastic about bitcoin before and then becoming bearish and skeptic about it. The sudden turn of their outlook becomes questionable and in that way, there's a reason why they do that and one might be to manipulate the market.

[buwaytress]

Use the same rationale for forum profiles too, by the way. I know it's easy to "follow" the people with the most merit or Legendary status but Trust is probably the most important factor on a forum profile, and that still doesn't give you a proper gauge of how "smart" they might be. I'd score pretty average on an IQ test, for example, and my bets should never be followed

Just for those wondering who to read on this forum.

[cryptoaddictchie]

If they understood what it means to sign your Bitcoin address as proof of ownership they wouldn't come out claiming to be real Nakamoto, the future is in your hands, do not be fooled.

Honestly thats the easiest and practical way to prove that you are the owner. I remember when a lot of personalities trying to pull off that they are Satoshi, but with the talks and evidence they clearly wrong. Anyone who can access the private key of Satoshi is the real one. Thats how bitcointalk forum verifying process. But does it mean the one who access before and now is the same? Nah that doesnt work that way. Ownership is about access.

[Lucius]

~snip~
Hal Finney shouldn't be compared with Satoshi Nakamoto, we don't how know how he chose to keep his recovery seed before he passed away, someone using Hal Finney bitcoin address is different from someone using Satoshis Bitcoin address.

Why not? Hal may have left his Bitcoin inheritance to his children, and the Satoshi keys may be lying in some old computer gathering dust somewhere in the attic until someone finds it one day. The thing is, anyone who has the private key can say that they are the person who is the real owner.

About satoshis account been banned or locked, why is that? I thought he created this forum? Or it's one of those security protocol to avoid possible account access in the future? Anyways.

As far as I know, the reason is probably because the forum has already been hacked a few times in the past and Satoshi's account is too important to let someone take it over even for a short time. If you thought someone wanted to prevent him from logging into the forum, that's not the case - he just needs to confirm that it's really him.

[pawanjain]

Even his bitcointalk account is no longer as it can be compromised at any point of time.
The one and only way to verify Satoshi's identity would be his bitcoin address.
One signed message from his bitcoin address is enough evidence to prove the ownership of his identity.
Anyone else trying to prove using any other method is just in vain and cannot be trusted.