Request to remove icopress from DT Default Trust list

[DaRude]

Calling something Whataboutism is just a justification of double standards.

More than 270 children have been killed in Iran and across the Middle East since hostilities escalated in the region. This includes a mass killing at a school full of children in Minab, Iran. The unlawful and deadly U.S. strike killed 168 people, including more than 100 children

Do you feel that these official numbers might be very far away from reality too? So you wouldn't be surprised or judge someone in, or associated with, Iran to use the forum's Trust system to leave negative feedback to everyone who supports US? And every other conflict with civilian casualties on this planet? Or is this whataboutism too? For my friends, everything; for my enemies, the law how is this not politicizing the Trust system exactly?

You continue whataboutism. Don't know why you bring these numbers from Iran because I didn't justified any wars and conflicts and I didn't said anywhere that's correct use of trust system. And yeah, I would judge if someone from Iran would leavesimilar kind of feedback, but it wouldn't make it into correct use of trust system.
I already said that if you're already leaving such feedback, IMO it should be neutral, no matter you're from Ukraine, Iran, Gaza or put name of any other country here.

And we're finally getting to the finish line.

Dec 31, 2023-At least 24 people, including three children, were killed and 108 others wounded in a Ukrainian attack on the Russian border city of Belgorod on Saturday, Russian authorities said, vowing to retaliate.

Final numbers were revised to It claimed the lives of 25 individuals, including five children, and left over 100 injured, many of whom remain hospitalized in serious condition Surely, statistically speaking, there are people in there who didn't support the war or even voted for Putin. Following your logic, you wouldn't judge those Russians for using this forum's Trust system to leave negative feedback for everyone supported Ukraine?

[nutildah]

Following your logic, you wouldn't judge those Russians for using this forum's Trust system to leave negative feedback for everyone supported Ukraine?

See, this is the danger of caring what anybody thinks here too much, especially when it comes to politics.

Why do you care so much what anyone thinks about politics that you'd bother leaving them a red tag. Most actually intelligent people I know don't let themselves get mired down in pointless political bickering.

And don't delude yourselves: everything said in P&S is literally pointless, aside from being therapeutic for those who need to believe their opinions matter.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

The reason I do not engage in the political section here is that everyone's politics change with location and their personal experience. My political view might not be shared equally by neighboring countries like France, Switzerland, Austria or Slovenia or even other provinces and to debate and discuss something that is personal like politics with a stranger where I am not aware of their background or their entire views, does not make sense and hence I stay away from active conversations in politics.

If someone is not interested in viewing another person's political views, there is an ignore button. It shouldn't be used to paint someone red over a political disagreement.

These kind of tags are applied too often these days. DT members should know better, as the trust score directly impacts how members conduct business in the crypto space and it should never be weaponized against someone for their political view.

Yeah, agree with most of the opinion in this post. Politically I have some pretty strong views, many people would think I am a real dick if I revealed them here. If I really revealed my thoughts on some subjects it could gain me undeserved red trust too but am I trustworthy, absolutely. My word is my honour, I could successfully escrow any amount safely with no problems but am I politically homeless, yes. Being untrustworthy and having strong, maybe controversial political views are two different things.

But any way, enough shit talking from me. Having strong views that offend people does not warrant negative trust but that’s just my opinion.  

 

[LTU_btc]

And we're finally getting to the finish line.

Dec 31, 2023-At least 24 people, including three children, were killed and 108 others wounded in a Ukrainian attack on the Russian border city of Belgorod on Saturday, Russian authorities said, vowing to retaliate.

Final numbers were revised to It claimed the lives of 25 individuals, including five children, and left over 100 injured, many of whom remain hospitalized in serious condition Surely, statistically speaking, there are people in there who didn't support the war or even voted for Putin. Following your logic, you wouldn't judge those Russians for using this forum's Trust system to leave negative feedback for everyone supported Ukraine?

So, this is where you're going, ok. This is war and I don't deny that some Ukrainian attacks caused death of civilians. That's not ok. As much as I hate Russia and what they're doing, Ukraine shouldn't act same.
But in general, I don't understand how someone with common sense can support what Russia is doing, unless he is brainwashed idiot who follows what Russian propaganda is telling to him. What I would do if someone would start using trust system to tag Ukraine supporters? Don't know, probably same what I'm doing now

[DaRude]

And we're finally getting to the finish line.

Dec 31, 2023-At least 24 people, including three children, were killed and 108 others wounded in a Ukrainian attack on the Russian border city of Belgorod on Saturday, Russian authorities said, vowing to retaliate.

Final numbers were revised to It claimed the lives of 25 individuals, including five children, and left over 100 injured, many of whom remain hospitalized in serious condition Surely, statistically speaking, there are people in there who didn't support the war or even voted for Putin. Following your logic, you wouldn't judge those Russians for using this forum's Trust system to leave negative feedback for everyone supported Ukraine?

So, this is where you're going, ok. This is war and I don't deny that some Ukrainian attacks caused death of civilians. That's not ok. As much as I hate Russia and what they're doing, Ukraine shouldn't act same.
But in general, I don't understand how someone with common sense can support what Russia is doing, unless he is brainwashed idiot who follows what Russian propaganda is telling to him. What I would do if someone would start using trust system to tag Ukraine supporters? Don't know, probably same what I'm doing now

Have you considering that perhaps stating that you hate a country is not healthy to start with? Not sure if it's because of propaganda or some psychological trauma you experienced, but do you not see how expressing strong feelings, such as hate, towards a whole country, would cloud ones judgement, impair reasoning and logical thinking? If you truly want to understand something it might be a good idea to get your emotions in check first.

Your inaction as a DT implies a passive approval of such use of the Trust system. So let's all just watch how this will "improve" /s the Trust system that you're a part of.

[AB de Royse777]

Can you elaborate what are the categories to consider a selection process is abusive

Generally, they have to be abusing alts in some way, such as by having their alts trust them so that they get onto DT1.

I always thought that's not an abuse. I saw users to trust their known alts so that the feedback from the known alts shows as trusted. Logically I don't see anything wrong with that too. If I am in DT and my feedback are shown as trusted Feedback then my alt to have the same privilege does not do any harm, does it?
https://loyce.club/trust/2026-06-13_Sat_05.18h/164822.html

A genuine question to you by the way:
How do you see when a user invite and encourage others privately and ask to include in the DT to increase his DT strength?
For campaign managers it is very easy to manipulate and achieve a strong DT position which I think an abuse of managerial position. I always consider having DT status and having merit source privilege should not be given to us recognized campaign managers.

[Lucius]

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I always consider having DT status and having merit source privilege should not be given to us recognized campaign managers.

In the case of the merits source application that @icopress requested a long time ago, we can say that the admin did not approve it. Unless something happened in the background, he is not a merits source. All other managers who have the same opinion as you can request to be removed from DT1 or to no longer be merit sources.

[DaRude]

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I always consider having DT status and having merit source privilege should not be given to us recognized campaign managers.

In the case of the merits source application that @icopress requested a long time ago, we can say that the admin did not approve it. Unless something happened in the background, he is not a merits source. All other managers who have the same opinion as you can request to be removed from DT1 or to no longer be merit sources.

So you trully think that getting honest dealing campaign managers to just self remove themselves from DT, thus leaving only not so honest on the DT is a good solution? Your suggestions are quiet telling of your overall position

[LTU_btc]

Have you considering that perhaps stating that you hate a country is not healthy to start with? Not sure if it's because of propaganda or some psychological trauma you experienced, but do you not see how expressing strong feelings, such as hate, towards a whole country, would cloud ones judgement, impair reasoning and logical thinking? If you truly want to understand something it might be a good idea to get your emotions in check first.

Not sure what my feelings towards Russia has to do with this topic.

A genuine question to you by the way:
How do you see when a user invite and encourage others privately and ask to include in the DT to increase his DT strength?
For campaign managers it is very easy to manipulate and achieve a strong DT position which I think an abuse of managerial position. I always consider having DT status and having merit source privilege should not be given to us recognized campaign managers.

I don't think it's ok to privately ask to include you to your trust list.
But campaign managers being merit sources or DT members, I don't see nothing wrong with it. They're same users like you, me or any other user and I don't see conflict of interests here.

[nutildah]

Can you elaborate what are the categories to consider a selection process is abusive

Generally, they have to be abusing alts in some way, such as by having their alts trust them so that they get onto DT1.

I always thought that's not an abuse. I saw users to trust their known alts so that the feedback from the known alts shows as trusted. Logically I don't see anything wrong with that too.

Its not abuse if you include a declared alt account and then keep the alt ineligible for DT1. It IS abuse if you include an undeclared alt account for the purpose of getting it on DT1.