The economic dimension of marriage

[Porfirii]

Should the economic dimension be considered before choosing a partner?

I would say yes, but it would be somewhat hypocritical because I wouldn't apply it to me. I mean, it seems the most reasonable thing to do to sign a regulatory agreement at the time of getting married or becoming a common-law partner, but if it were my case I wouldn't worry too much about it.

Of course, in different countries the legal and economic consequences of getting married differ greatly, and in mine, if a specific economic modality is not chosen at first, the modality of separation of property between spouses is applied. It is a fairly neutral modality that does not seriously compromise you in the event that the union does not turn out as well as expected, with which the economic dimension would be quite safeguarded without the need to do anything specific in this regard.

[Obim34]

That's why the wise saying goes, "Get married while you're young; the older you get, the wiser you'll be, and you'll have more reasons to postpone it." But, marriage is simply a life choice. Even in times of adversity, marriage isn't recommended.
In my opinion, the demand for marriage isn't wealth or financial stability, but commitment.

Love isn't enough quality to sustain a marriage, people now marry for benefits, the men do want children that will carry on his name or legacy, while majority of women see marriage as a means of survival, that is why some women don't leave even when they are abused in their marriage, without the man they can't do the basics of life.

Not all marriages are bound to have a happy ending, with or without good finance, a marriage can still break.

[abhiseshakana]

Just because you have money before marriage, doesn't mean that everything will go great for you after marriage, things can go south. Marry someone who you would be happy with if you had nothing, or have everything, because either case matters.

You should not have a problem with each other if you have no money, but you should also not have any problems with each other if you have a lot of money neither. Plenty of people get divorced when they run out of money and face money problems, and plenty more people divorce when they get rich too.

Having money or assets is not the only proof of financial intelligence. I like my wife because she is smart and hardworking. I observed that she was a good salesperson. These are skills that could bring financial gains. So let us go beyond money or jobs to skills, character, and other qualities. You are correct that the financial aspect of marriage shouldn't be the only consideration, but from the response in this thread, it is important to consider it.

For middle class income and lower class income, money usually sources of tension, to avoid repeated discussions that lead to conflict with our life partner, communication and discussion about financial things is important. It is not discussion about financial level and having a house but rather about financial disclosure, money mindset, family money management modell  after marriage and how the pillars of building shared wealth.

I took example from my own experiences, like your wife, my wife also has her own income, which made us often have disagreements at the beginning of our marriage is a habit of being wasteful because it is easy for her to make money, for daily food (main dish/side dished material not exclude rice, cooking oil etc which she buy monthly) shopping for 2 people I budget USD 10, but due she has income she easily  add her money if it exceeds the budget, if it happens once or twice it's no problem, but it happens almost every day.

After repeated and intense debates in first year of our marriage ,my wife finally understood my financial plan and both of us made adjustments to the budget based on our agreement.  We agree to prepare everything for the worst case of our financial condition. After that mostly of her income allocated to fatten emergency fund savings, investment, support parents and close family and to share with those in need.

[Dareo]

One of my relatives was not in a good financial situation when they got married. It was a lot of trouble in the beginning, but both of them understood each other and gradually sorted everything out, and now they are living a pretty good life. I have also seen people who had no shortage of money, but still their relationship did not last. I think money is definitely important, but if money is made the mainstay of a relationship, that relationship will collapse first in any financial disaster. More than strength, honesty towards each other and the mentality of surviving together in any difficult situation are necessary for a healthy relationship.

[Youngrebel]

One of my relatives was not in a good financial situation when they got married. It was a lot of trouble in the beginning, but both of them understood each other and gradually sorted everything out, and now they are living a pretty good life. I have also seen people who had no shortage of money, but still their relationship did not last. I think money is definitely important, but if money is made the mainstay of a relationship, that relationship will collapse first in any financial disaster. More than strength, honesty towards each other and the mentality of surviving together in any difficult situation are necessary for a healthy relationship.

Exactly, with or without money relationship that are not met to be for each other won’t last, money issues just there for maintenance the main thing is love and understanding each other and what I really like in your example is not the lack of money at the start, but the presence of understanding, patience, and love and thats is just the simple truth this is what keeps relationships through difficult times and helps them grow stronger over time. Tho money is very important even when you are single money is essential talk more of you being in a relationship when you now care for yourself, and the family you are about to bring up and thats why so many relationship fall, financial pressure is one of the biggest breakups or relationships so while there is love, honesty, and understanding money need to be added.

[slapper]

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For middle class income and lower class income, money usually sources of tension, to avoid repeated discussions that lead to conflict with our life partner, communication and discussion about financial things is important. It is not discussion about financial level and having a house but rather about financial disclosure, money mindset, family money management modell  after marriage and how the pillars of building shared wealth.

I took example from my own experiences, like your wife, my wife also has her own income, which made us often have disagreements at the beginning of our marriage is a habit of being wasteful because it is easy for her to make money, for daily food (main dish/side dished material not exclude rice, cooking oil etc which she buy monthly) shopping for 2 people I budget USD 10, but due she has income she easily  add her money if it exceeds the budget, if it happens once or twice it's no problem, but it happens almost every day.

After repeated and intense debates in first year of our marriage ,my wife finally understood my financial plan and both of us made adjustments to the budget based on our agreement.  We agree to prepare everything for the worst case of our financial condition. After that mostly of her income allocated to fatten emergency fund savings, investment, support parents and close family and to share with those in need.

When the budget exceeded, your wife added her own money. You called that being wasteful. I don't believe so. I believe that she tried to breathe. Like, okay, I've got my own money to spend, I can make this meal a little nicer, I can get the slightly nicer cut. Why should we be limited if we are not to be? From her point of view, this is perfectly logical.

From the perspective you have, it's all terrifying. Because you're saving money for the day you everything goes wrong. Neither one is bad, but when those two worldviews, meet in the kitchen and in the bank account for the first time... Yeah.

[Chibit01]

What an interesting discussion; marriage is one thing I have been saying to people and myself. It's not something one should rush into. Marriage is different from relationships in terms of marriage. Even if the person doesn't have money on their own, they should have that industrious mindset, so that by investing in the person from the little you have, they can make something out of it and not waste or consider the family to be a one-way thing where all financial responsibility should come from one person alone.

[BRINIRHA]

Getting from relationship to marriage is easy but when we're already in a marriage sometimes it's not as simple as we thought.

We have to try to force understanding between us and our partner and I agree with the notion that marriage is an opening to see the whole of our strengths and weaknesses. But when we have committed to a relationship towards marriage then we must be prepared for it.
Many people are afraid of marriage just because they are not ready from some things and it cannot be forced but if they are ready then actually marriage is not as bad as imagined.

We can still talk about any problems including the economy as long as we and our partners understand each other and talk with a cool head because when making each other's ego bigger then it can make marriage scary. Understanding each other without prioritizing ego can be an alternative so that we can still make things not difficult.

There's always a way if we do love our partners before we enter this next level, like you said it's no a problem discussing things like how both will desire to live their lifestyle as long as there's a common understanding then it can be done thru process, there's should be no ego or the communication between the two should be intact the way they've got it when they are still in a relation, as most of the time reality comes out when you and your partner is now living in a same roof, there are emotions and attitude that will start to comes out which is not been seen when you are living in a separate places, the adjustments is for real but as long as the marriage was produce by love, then there's nothing that can't be solve together if love and respect are the center of it.

When we are ready to be in a relationship we should also be ready for our partner's strengths and weaknesses even though it may be a little annoying in some cases, but we are ready to commit so we have to live with it.  When I decided to get married, I was always advised by my parents that “communication is key” and that was true when I experienced married life.
We cannot follow our own desires based on momentary emotions because everything needs consideration and needs to be discussed so that there are no misunderstandings.

For financial matters it's the same, my partner and I both work and it's still done even after I got married but my partner always gives the salary he has for me to manage without any coercion because from the beginning the communication was good.  There will be no problem when we always prioritize reason but it might be a different story if momentary emotions are always used as our initial foundation in marriage.

[STT]

If we're talking money in marriage its been there for thousands of years.  They literally give gold as a gift during a marriage very often in some countries.  I dont especially like the idea because it backs the idea that women are somehow are not worth beyond words or pieces of gold, it seems upside down but its very much built into the system not new at all.

The modern take on this whole phenomena is not that the wife will have children and so not be earning exactly but many western countries there is no choice & the wife works and yes if she doesn't earn well the family can barely pay the bills maybe.  Its kinda tragic because I dont see that its correct to send children away from their mothers at an early age but its the modern system often.

The most common occurrence I hear is the wife manages the bills because men just spend the entire weekly wages without thinking of needing to pay for water or electricity, he is away from home so its about priorities.  Both in a normal marriage make great sacrifices imo.

[SUPERSAIAN]

The economy must be considered by both men and women before marriage it is a must because after marriage we need better living expenses, marrying for love is also no problem as long as your partner wants to fight for you as well as possible, especially the best case in terms of good economy and from the person you already love it will be something better than just looking at the material angle or love alone, if you have not met the qualifications that are standardized by a partner then it is better to work and try first to improve yourself and your economy.

Living costs become more significant after marriage. There are responsibilities for both partners. But in some marriages, if the couple supports each other well and works, everything can go smoothly, and they might even create a much better financial situation. It's a bit of luck, honestly. I say luck because it's actually comprised of many factors.