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June 07, 2026, 09:33:54 PM
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‎The merit system and principles was brought up on Bitcoin talk better the quality of ideas discussion and to reduce the rate of spam before it is introduction user could rank up by simple being active and focused which led to low quality post today, member needs merit form other users in addition to active point to advance and improve other accounts.

‎While the system has led to the improvement form quality some new members feel that earring merit has become something hard many up coming members make useful ideas and contributions but struggle to receive recognition because they are not yet well known. In some sections of the forum merit is awarded and given frequently, while in others it is very hard to learn, Creating and forming an uneven experience for the users.

‎A major and higher challenge for newcomers/member is understanding what kind of content and bring merit gone user spend long period of time posting without having success because they focus on short replies instead of creating and forming information and engaging discussions those who take time to learn, share knowledge and help others people often and regularly have a  better chance and opportunity of receiving merit

‎In my Opinion and understanding the merit The system has made ranking up more challenging and hard but not something impossible it gives rewards and awards the people with patience putting in effort and gives quality contributions instead of asking how to get merit, new members may benefit more from asking how they can add more value to the forum when contributions and ideas become consistent, merit often follows naturally.
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June 07, 2026, 09:49:35 PM
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Addressing your topic subject i wouldn’t say the merit system actually made  it difficult for members to grow rather I will say it made it difficult for shit posters to actually grow in rank on the forum.

Even with the introduction of merit system we still the rapid growth of members in rank and this is a result of quality posting. So if people like this are there then we cannot blame lack of growth on merit issue alone even if merit is not also beyond flaws.

For me I think the easiest way to grow in this forum is to focus on learning or impacting knowledge this two are the easiest way to grow account. Also if you wish to actually earn merits its best to study those with lots of merit and see how they grow through the forum

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June 07, 2026, 09:50:52 PM
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‎The merit system and principles was brought up on Bitcoin talk better the quality of ideas discussion and to reduce the rate of spam before it is introduction user could rank up by simple being active and focused which led to low quality post today, member needs merit form other users in addition to active point to advance and improve other accounts.

You already know this, so no need to reply to your title, as it makes it sound like the merit system is punishment for newbies, whereas it's a means to reduce spam in the forum even when it's not 100% efficient.

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While the system has led to the improvement form quality some new members feel that earring merit has become something hard
Are you voicing for all the new members or yourself in particular, or is it a joint cry out?

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many up coming members make useful ideas and contributions but struggle to receive recognition because they are not yet well known.


Not in all cases, but to some extent I also believe there is some sort of favoritism, and at the same time I can't recall where I read a similar thing where a member talks about not giving merit to newbies who appear to know too much or claim to be new, as they might be one of those farm accounts and don't want to feed a farm account with merit for cheap effort.

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In some sections of the forum merit is awarded and given frequently, while in others it is very hard to learn, Creating and forming an uneven experience for the users.

Merit can be earned anywhere from the forum; you just have to focus on the areas where you know you have something to offer. This belief that merit can easily be earned in some part of the forum is what has led many inexperienced members to try their luck on the technical board, where they get neutral or red for spreading false information instead of the merit they went there to fish for.

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‎A major and higher challenge for newcomers/member is understanding what kind of content and bring merit gone user spend long period of time posting without having success because they focus on short replies instead of creating and forming information and engaging discussions those who take time to learn, share knowledge and help others people often and regularly have a  better chance and opportunity of receiving merit


The moment you stop thinking about what will give you merit, in most cases, there's a high chance you could get real creative and earn merit when you least expect it. One thing I have learned and read in this forum is "you don't chase merit; allow merit to chase you," and earning merit is not about how long you write but how helpful the information can be and who the information impresses.

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‎In my Opinion and understanding the merit The system has made ranking up more challenging and hard but not something impossible it gives rewards and awards the people with patience putting in effort and gives quality contributions instead of asking how to get merit, new members may benefit more from asking how they can add more value to the forum when contributions and ideas become consistent, merit often follows naturally.

You have summarized it all here.

 
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June 07, 2026, 09:53:17 PM
Last edit: June 07, 2026, 10:10:20 PM by PX-Z
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Please refer and continue posting on this thread Has Bitcointalk Become Harder for Genuine Beginners? as your topic thread doesn't differ on the topic mentioned, thus this is just another topic duplication.

 
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June 07, 2026, 10:24:02 PM
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member needs merit form other users in addition to active point to advance and improve other accounts.
Yes, it will be more difficult, especially if you're an account farmer. I don't think it's just a beginner; merit is like food.

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‎While the system has led to the improvement form quality some new members feel that earring merit has become something hard many up coming members make useful ideas and contributions but struggle to receive recognition because they are not yet well known.
Report their posts here: bta.lk/t/5093271
Afaik, that's a more objective way to earn merit without looking at account recognition score.

 
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June 07, 2026, 11:01:27 PM
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Well, the meriting of a thing is subjective to the user to determine of your post actually seems to be regarded as quality to him//her or not, because from what I have really learnt from the forum merit system and how both sources and ordinary users rewards posts with merit it's something base on their thoughts about that post. So basically what you as na OP or anyone else may deemed nicely etched quality post may not seem same for the next user. But that doesn't mean that you ain't recognised or contributing to the community.

You already know what the merit system was established to promote, so I would implore you just stick to it and don't get dissuaded that your timely expectations ain't fought coming as you have imagined. Grin

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June 07, 2026, 11:29:22 PM
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Why would a new member want to grow their account so quickly? It's not a race, but consistency is what matters. If a member consistently engages in discussion and makes so contribution in the forum, then they will sure earn merits with time.

What I think the merit system did was to make it harder for account farmers to rank up their accounts unlike back then where one would just make one-liners and the account rank kept on growing due to activity points.

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In my Opinion and understanding the merit The system has made ranking up more challenging and hard but not something impossible it gives rewards and awards the people with patience putting in effort and gives quality contributions instead of asking how to get merit, new members may benefit more from asking how they can add more value to the forum when contributions and ideas become consistent, merit often follows naturally.

You have earned a total of 3 merits and you suddenly think you are an expert in the merit system? Something tells me this might not be your only account on this forum. You could stand to take your own advice because some of your posts are barely comprehensible.

The fact that you somehow earned 3 merits on a post that is, in all honesty, complete nonsense, is proof that earning merits isn’t that difficult for new members. I don’t know why some members keep insisting on pushing a narrative that is false.

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Tl;dr.
Rika feels the system is porous and doesn't serve the purpose in his own opinion, then it gets really funny to scroll through Meta only to find a thread of a newbie complaining of how difficult it is for newbies (like himself) to rank up. Don't get me wrong, it's weird for a so-called newbie to make a post like this in the first place. Also, it doesn't look to me like OP has been putting in any deserving effort to actually earn anything, so what's the point of making a complaint?

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‎In my Opinion and understanding the merit The system has made ranking up more challenging and hard but not something impossible it gives rewards and awards the people with patience putting in effort and gives quality contributions instead of asking how to get merit, new members may benefit more from asking how they can add more value to the forum when contributions and ideas become consistent, merit often follows naturally.
It's better that you already know this and I hope other newbies understand too just like you did. However, their is one thing I have believed is that once a user is more focused on having merit, it becomes very difficult for the user in question to earn it and the next thing you will start seeing from such user is constant complain, it's better you don't Chanel your mind to that very aspect, let your intentions be on how to make a good contribution to a thread and definitely merit will come their is no need forcing it. However, being too desperate to rank up has been one great challenge mostly in newbies and once that becomes the goal, you will rarely see a good post from such user because the goal will change automatically from a good poster to a shit poster.

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Today at 05:12:12 AM
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Without the merit system it was worse because acc farmers were spamming the forum to grow a farm and sell them... Then your account would be competing against the farmer acc's and believe me It wouldn't be easier to grab a spot in a campaign in that situation either. Without the merit system, you would grow your account to the highest rank easily but everybody would do that and that would mean you would try hard to prove your worth... Now we got the merit system, you should still try hard... to reach the highest rank. That's the only difference really. You need to try hard regardless. We are mostly try-hards here. Try harder.

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Today at 05:38:34 AM
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A new member will not know how easy or hard it was before to rank up an account before the merit system cause they were not active then neither will they be focused on ranking up, they will instead focus on the discussions that brought them here and the ones that convinced them to stay and visit again.

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Today at 06:15:06 AM
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 So in essence, you're saying merits should be distributed carelessly just cause the forum wants to make newbies feel comfortable? Just last week, a similar thread was opened referring to how lack of merits is what's causing beginners to not grow here and today you bring up the same thing? Tell me, how do you expect to grow and get the merits you desire when you don't bother to make your research first about threads before going on to start another? That's spamming and it's funny how that the new members you're campaigning for aren't hear to talk on your thread and agree that it's hard.
Nothing is hard. You just haven't done the right thing. Stop whining and just be, creating such threads won't give you what you want either.

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Today at 08:14:37 AM
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The merit system was established on this forum to reward members who actively contribute to this forum and discourage members who spam the forum and don't contribute to the forum.
Of course, many new members don't know much or nothing about crypto and it is difficult for them to contribute to this forum, or participate in discussions, like older and more experienced members.
They need time and patience for this and of course nowadays we all want everything now and not later.
However, this is still a bitcoin forum and the standards of the forum should not be lowered but new members should be encouraged to invest time and effort in understanding bitcoin and crypto.
Ultimately, there is no big difference between older members with higher ranks and new members, everyone can equally participate in discussions, ask questions, etc. which is actually the main purpose of this forum.
Let's be honest, the main reason why new members complain about merit is not because of some restrictions on participation in this forum for new members but because of the inability to participate in signature campaigns.

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Today at 08:57:32 AM
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‎The merit system and principles was brought up on Bitcoin talk better the quality of ideas discussion and to reduce the rate of spam before it is introduction user could rank up by simple being active and focused which led to low quality post today, member needs merit form other users in addition to active point to advance and improve other accounts.
How newbies use the forum, and contribute in this community will decide they receive merit or don't receive merit with their posts. It's not new, and theymos emphasized it in forum's Welcome message years ago.

When you start out, you are a Newbie, and you will run into various annoying limits. These limits will be reduced to the point where you shouldn't usually notice them after you have participated in the forum for a few weeks. If you are on the forum to talk, then that's all you really need to know about rank. Don't worry about it too much, and you will eventually rank up.

If you want to maximize your rank, then you need to increase two statistics which are listed on your profile:
  • Activity, which is maximized by posting once per day on average. Posting more than that is useless in raising your activity.
  • Merit, which is gained by making good posts.

If you make ten thousand posts in a week, your activity will be capped and you will still be a Newbie. If you make ten thousand useless posts over any period of time, you will gain zero merit and you will still be a Newbie. You can rank up only by making good posts consistently. It's quality over quantity.

When trying to write quality posts, a lot of people act as though they're writing a book report for school: putting facts that we already know into their own words. Nobody wants to read that, and you will not get merit for it. Moreover, the length of your post and the quality of your English are only minor factors. In trying to write a quality post worthy of merit, you should offer new ideas, personal experiences, or perspectives that other forum users will actually find new and interesting.

With some local farms abused the merit systems, source merit and circulate their merits locally, it results in a fact that genuine newbies will have more challenge to earn merit. It's because genuine merit sources, and forum users don't want to waste time to check whether a newbie is genuine or from an account farm.

Are you a genuine newbie, I really don't know?

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Today at 01:46:29 PM
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Are you a genuine newbie, I really don't know?


If you look at the OP's post history, you can see that this is his first post outside of his local board (Nigeria), so it's a little strange that he decided to post it in the Meta board on the subject of merits.

The merits system didn't make it harder to advance in the ranks for those users who make an effort to understand the same system, but the OP and those who think similarly to him definitely have a problem that they are trying to solve in the wrong way.

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