Trading is like more like gambling if...

[@nn@_pen9]

If there is no other basis for doing actual trading activity but just guessing without any analysis or strategy, it can be said that what these traders do is clearly just gambling
because there is no guarantee that they will get a profit.

In addition, it seems that they will also rely on luck whether or not the position price they will set up is correct, and if this is the case,
it is not good for any traders to get used to it.

Does trading really have to involve leverage at all times, or else it won't be profitable? What if we trade in the spot market? After all, that counts as trading too we are capturing small profits in the short term. We need to distinguish between the concepts of leverage and spot trading we cannot simply lump them together into a single category, especially given that trading does not always yield a profit. Concepts like this can be difficult for beginners to grasp or digest when they are looking to learn new things or gain knowledge about trading. Broadly speaking, trading with leverage bears a strong resemblance to gambling even with careful analysis, outcomes often fail to meet expectations because the market is inherently difficult to predict, and results sometimes hinge on luck.

[AGogi2003]

There is no easy way to make money. Some new traders think that they can easily make money from trading platforms. They make a big mistake by starting their experience by using leverage. There are advantages to long-term investing but there is no immediate profit target because you have to earn profit through discipline and patience.

You need to be aware of risky trading like gambling because it is not right to expect high profits by making quick decisions and its sustainability is not long. If you realize the knowledge that increases in you about the market as a result of long-term investment practice and application of research knowledge, you will be less inclined to risky trading strategies.

Making money can not comes easy because people that make easy money don’t usually no the value of it. Many people making mistakes in trading but sometimes is not from them, they try to confuse them to start trading and won’t tell them the negative side about it thinking they can get money easy in trading. And what will make you become successful in trading won’t be easy you need to face some challenges before getting what you need and that is why we have many ways to get money if you can’t do trading investment can work for you but trading is always difficult.

[HustleZ]

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You’re right, trading becomes gambling if not done right and is no different than gambling if you just buy or sell and expect the price to respect your buying and selling. You said that without proper FA and TA trading becomes gambling and that is essentially true but the maing thing that seperates trading from gambling is Risk management, a person can have all the knowledge about FA and TA but if he does not ahve proper risk management and emotional control Then he can make such mistakes that makes trading gambling, so for trading to remain trading and not turn into gambling all the different aspects should be kept in mind if not then trading and gambling are the same.

[Findingnemo]

One may not possess excessive analytical skills and still can trade like not a gambler, they just need a common sense and strong with the basics of trading, which is buy low and sell high. Learning about trading skills and strategies are good and you can always watch others not to do what they are doing but to learn from their mistakes because those are the lessons that keep us from loss while learning the valuable lessons about trading.

In my personal opinion those people who are doing the trading even they don't know about the analysis like the technical analysis and the fundamental analysis still doing trading by following others their actually doing the gambling not the trading and these are the people who were saying that trading is also like the gambling.

Just as in other sectors like graphic designing and web designing, web development, and software development, you have to grow your skills over time and then become successful through experience, similarly in trading, it takes a lot of time to acquire analysis skills. Those who can give this time can basically express themselves as real traders and can remain profitable, and in their case, trading can basically be considered as a career, which is definitely not gambling.

I am just saying one can be profitable in trading with just buy and sell high strategy and obviously it is not going to work for someone who is looking for short term profits, but for the long term it should work and with higher capital for trading they can make a decent amount of returns just by setting the goal price and execute the trade when it met.

However if one started pursuing trading as a career then it is mandatory to learn everything that is there for them to give better picture of the market movement.

[puloweh555]

If there is no other basis for doing actual trading activity but just guessing without any analysis or strategy, it can be said that what these traders do is clearly just gambling
because there is no guarantee that they will get a profit.

In addition, it seems that they will also rely on luck whether or not the position price they will set up is correct, and if this is the case,
it is not good for any traders to get used to it.

Does trading really have to involve leverage at all times, or else it won't be profitable? What if we trade in the spot market? After all, that counts as trading too we are capturing small profits in the short term. We need to distinguish between the concepts of leverage and spot trading we cannot simply lump them together into a single category, especially given that trading does not always yield a profit. Concepts like this can be difficult for beginners to grasp or digest when they are looking to learn new things or gain knowledge about trading. Broadly speaking, trading with leverage bears a strong resemblance to gambling even with careful analysis, outcomes often fail to meet expectations because the market is inherently difficult to predict, and results sometimes hinge on luck.

Of course, trading doesn't have to involve leverage to be called trading as spot trading is also trading. Both types of trading have their own risks and advantages. Many traders engage in leveraged trading because it offers substantial profits. Furthermore, even small price movements can yield substantial profits although the reality is that higher leverage becomes more like gambling especially when combined with poor risk management. Spot trading on the other hand, carries lower risks because even if the price drops you don't sell, and you don't lose. It's usually combined with long term holding investments.

Essentially, leveraged trading is a strategy not a necessity. Leverage can increase profits, but it often increases losses and emotions. However, spot trading is a much better method especially for learning and trading. Whether or not these two trading systems can be like gambling depends on your risk management, consistency, and your own trading discipline.

[Cgrexp]

One may not possess excessive analytical skills and still can trade like not a gambler, they just need a common sense and strong with the basics of trading, which is buy low and sell high. Learning about trading skills and strategies are good and you can always watch others not to do what they are doing but to learn from their mistakes because those are the lessons that keep us from loss while learning the valuable lessons about trading.

In my personal opinion those people who are doing the trading even they don't know about the analysis like the technical analysis and the fundamental analysis still doing trading by following others their actually doing the gambling not the trading and these are the people who were saying that trading is also like the gambling.

Just as in other sectors like graphic designing and web designing, web development, and software development, you have to grow your skills over time and then become successful through experience, similarly in trading, it takes a lot of time to acquire analysis skills. Those who can give this time can basically express themselves as real traders and can remain profitable, and in their case, trading can basically be considered as a career, which is definitely not gambling.

I am just saying one can be profitable in trading with just buy and sell high strategy and obviously it is not going to work for someone who is looking for short term profits, but for the long term it should work and with higher capital for trading they can make a decent amount of returns just by setting the goal price and execute the trade when it met.

However if one started pursuing trading as a career then it is mandatory to learn everything that is there for them to give better picture of the market movement.

Consistent profits from trading are not guaranteed. The market may fall or rise more than we expect. Therefore, capital management and risk control are important. Choosing trading as a profession is very risky. Therefore, if someone trades only with the hope of profit without knowing about risk management and strategies, then the possibility of loss is high. Even an experienced trader can be damaged due to a small mistake. Therefore, considering these aspects, long-term investment is a relatively easy and realistic strategy for everyone compared to trading.

[WatChe]

Consistent profits from trading are not guaranteed. The market may fall or rise more than we expect. Therefore, capital management and risk control are important. Choosing trading as a profession is very risky. Therefore, if someone trades only with the hope of profit without knowing about risk management and strategies, then the possibility of loss is high. Even an experienced trader can be damaged due to a small mistake. Therefore, considering these aspects, long-term investment is a relatively easy and realistic strategy for everyone compared to trading.

Better approach is to invest maximum capital for long term because in that case risk is less while profit is almost guaranteed. A small portion of capital can be used for trading and that capital can be increased over the period of time as trader develop confidence. One thing is very clear that there is no such thing as guaranteed profit in trading because no matter how much experience you have, there is probability of getting loss all the time. Trading no doubt can give you quick returns but can also give you massive loss in blink of an eye.

[Big Dirams]

Consistent profits from trading are not guaranteed. The market may fall or rise more than we expect. Therefore, capital management and risk control are important. Choosing trading as a profession is very risky. Therefore, if someone trades only with the hope of profit without knowing about risk management and strategies, then the possibility of loss is high. Even an experienced trader can be damaged due to a small mistake. Therefore, considering these aspects, long-term investment is a relatively easy and realistic strategy for everyone compared to trading.

Better approach is to invest maximum capital for long term because in that case risk is less while profit is almost guaranteed. A small portion of capital can be used for trading and that capital can be increased over the period of time as trader develop confidence. One thing is very clear that there is no such thing as guaranteed profit in trading because no matter how much experience you have, there is probability of getting loss all the time. Trading no doubt can give you quick returns but can also give you massive loss in blink of an eye.

However even before the capital should grow and increase to some certain amount such investors needs to put their priorities in trading in check. Not just the confidence but a lot need to be put in order before we could make the success in trading. And right that profits isn’t guaranteed at all in trading and also holdings which is why approaching it with caution is something a trader should adhere to and not to go in recklessly without any thought at all.
Trade with caution and not to over do our part just because we see our confidence has boosted to another level.

[Dareo]

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There is no easy way to make money. Some new traders think that they can easily make money from trading platforms. They make a big mistake by starting their experience by using leverage. There are advantages to long-term investing but there is no immediate profit target because you have to earn profit through discipline and patience.

You need to be aware of risky trading like gambling because it is not right to expect high profits by making quick decisions and its sustainability is not long. If you realize the knowledge that increases in you about the market as a result of long-term investment practice and application of research knowledge, you will be less inclined to risky trading strategies.

Actually the problem is not the market but the way they started. Putting pressure on yourself to make a profit every day at the beginning increases the chances of making the wrong decision, I think if you see crypto as a place to build wealth slowly rather than a quick buck then your decisions will be much more mature. It doesn't always take a lot of action to survive in the market, sometimes the best decision is to do nothing at the right time.

[Zy_sat]

Sentence "trading is gambling" often appear not because the trading itself, but because how people enter the market and some point i agree with you. In the past i also thinking like that, open chart only to see candle and then entry, few minutes later i loss and say market manipulation, but when i get profit once, i feel like a pro trder, LOL. Then i assume that activity is gambling, but i start to learn everything slowly to change my mine to find something that make trading is different with gambling. In gambling many things outside our control, while in trading at least we still can manage risk, entry, exit, position size. The problem is many people come to trading with mindset instant rich, not learn the process. a trader who just doing random entry without understand what they buy, overleverage in futures, revenge trade/martingale after loss, in my opinion that already not trading anymore, just gambling using chart.

From the beginning of the game actually we need to understand what is the trading means to and a gambling is. If people with unknown knowledge starting this, this might occurs more misunderstanding on this. Big agree with the common sense that many people thought they are a good trader when they gain many profit on what they are doing on this trading platform, but they will said it is a gambling when they losses too much, it is simply as they are do not have enough knowledge on this.

When we start to do the trading itself, we need to realize what is the FUD of this economics game, if we still not sure for the knowledge itself, we need to take more time to learn, reading a book, watching the successful sharing on YouTube, many thing we still need to do for this. Don’t ever try if the knowledge is not enough, otherwise you will think the losses is a gambling that planned by platform.

Gambling is another level of trading, therefore it is not for people who has no self control, the probability of losses without self exclusion will make us crazy with it.

[Yorubek]

-snip-
There is no easy way to make money. Some new traders think that they can easily make money from trading platforms. They make a big mistake by starting their experience by using leverage. There are advantages to long-term investing but there is no immediate profit target because you have to earn profit through discipline and patience.

You need to be aware of risky trading like gambling because it is not right to expect high profits by making quick decisions and its sustainability is not long. If you realize the knowledge that increases in you about the market as a result of long-term investment practice and application of research knowledge, you will be less inclined to risky trading strategies.

Actually the problem is not the market but the way they started. Putting pressure on yourself to make a profit every day at the beginning increases the chances of making the wrong decision, I think if you see crypto as a place to build wealth slowly rather than a quick buck then your decisions will be much more mature. It doesn't always take a lot of action to survive in the market, sometimes the best decision is to do nothing at the right time.

It is true that when a person starts trading or gambling without proper knowledge and from that time the main problem starts to arise, when a person becomes aggressive in trading or gambling without following the right rules for making quick money, as a result a person faces financial losses very quickly. And when a person understands the volatility of the market with proper knowledge about trading and patiently enters the market at the right time and leaves the market, as a result there is a possibility of making money. I think achieving success through trading or gambling is not an easy task it is very difficult.

[suzanne5223]

Sentence "trading is gambling" often appear not because the trading itself, but because how people enter the market and some point i agree with you. In the past i also thinking like that, open chart only to see candle and then entry, few minutes later i loss and say market manipulation, but when i get profit once, i feel like a pro trder, LOL. Then i assume that activity is gambling, but i start to learn everything slowly to change my mine to find something that make trading is different with gambling. In gambling many things outside our control, while in trading at least we still can manage risk, entry, exit, position size. The problem is many people come to trading with mindset instant rich, not learn the process. a trader who just doing random entry without understand what they buy, overleverage in futures, revenge trade/martingale after loss, in my opinion that already not trading anymore, just gambling using chart.

From the beginning of the game actually we need to understand what is the trading means to and a gambling is. If people with unknown knowledge starting this, this might occurs more misunderstanding on this. Big agree with the common sense that many people thought they are a good trader when they gain many profit on what they are doing on this trading platform, but they will said it is a gambling when they losses too much, it is simply as they are do not have enough knowledge on this.

Yes, trading is not gambling for those that truly understand the Smart Money Concept, which is used by the institutional traders to move the market, but that doesn't mean there won't be a season to make lost which traders only follow the institutional decision, and they can switch decisions, which technically leads to the loss of experienced traders
Nevertheless, the concept behind gambling is different, and the higher chance of winning in gambling is mostly 1%. Besides, the concept of gambling is that winning is not guarantee while winning is guaranteed in trading through an A+ setup.

[Shinpako09]

Indeed. That's why it's necessary to learn trading yourself rather than just relying on signals. There are some people in our country who rely entirely on signals. What's even riskier is that some of those signals are for memecoins. They still believe getting into crypto is an easy way to make money, not realizing that it's usually not the case.

Some of our local content creators are really helping for free. They do live trading in their channels while explaining their decisions. They are also transparent about their losses, not just their gains, which shows the reality of trading. If you're too lazy to learn on your own, it's better to follow people like them rather than rely entirely on signals. If you really want to grow as a trader, you need patience and be willing to learn.

[snowpega]

You’re right, trading becomes gambling if not done right and is no different than gambling if you just buy or sell and expect the price to respect your buying and selling. You said that without proper FA and TA trading becomes gambling and that is essentially true but the maing thing that seperates trading from gambling is Risk management, a person can have all the knowledge about FA and TA but if he does not ahve proper risk management and emotional control Then he can make such mistakes that makes trading gambling, so for trading to remain trading and not turn into gambling all the different aspects should be kept in mind if not then trading and gambling are the same.

Well, you have made a very valid point here, and I agree with you on this. Risk management is indeed a very important factor that I missed mentioning, and yes, without proper risk management and emotional control, we could lose a fortune. No matter how knowledgeable a trader we are, we will still blow our accounts, and that's the reality.

Emotional control is actually the hardest part of trading because by the time we understand it we have already lost a lot, like fear and greed are the biggest enemies of any trader, and no matter how good our FA and TA are, if we can't control our emotions, we will still end up making bad decisions, so yes, you have added a very important point here.

[kawetsriyanto]

From the beginning of the game actually we need to understand what is the trading means to and a gambling is. If people with unknown knowledge starting this, this might occurs more misunderstanding on this. Big agree with the common sense that many people thought they are a good trader when they gain many profit on what they are doing on this trading platform, but they will said it is a gambling when they losses too much, it is simply as they are do not have enough knowledge on this.

I'm sure people actually have been aware the difference between trading and gambling since the beginning. However, they may think that trading is easy, so they can do it even with lack of knowledge. This wrong perception about trading leads too many people who experience severe losses because they do it with improper way.

When we start to do the trading itself, we need to realize what is the FUD of this economics game, if we still not sure for the knowledge itself, we need to take more time to learn, reading a book, watching the successful sharing on YouTube, many thing we still need to do for this. Don’t ever try if the knowledge is not enough, otherwise you will think the losses is a gambling that planned by platform.

Indeed, we must always remember to start anything after we really understand it. Understanding the FUDs is a part of knowledge, sure it is needed. Knowledge is the main factor to determine the success in trading. However, we also don't forget about the psychological factor. Strong mentality is also necessary in trading.

Gambling is another level of trading, therefore it is not for people who has no self control, the probability of losses without self exclusion will make us crazy with it.

Gambling and trading are different. Both of them require good self-control. There is no success in trading without proper mentality.

[AYOBA]

You’re right, trading becomes gambling if not done right and is no different than gambling if you just buy or sell and expect the price to respect your buying and selling. You said that without proper FA and TA trading becomes gambling and that is essentially true but the maing thing that seperates trading from gambling is Risk management, a person can have all the knowledge about FA and TA but if he does not ahve proper risk management and emotional control Then he can make such mistakes that makes trading gambling, so for trading to remain trading and not turn into gambling all the different aspects should be kept in mind if not then trading and gambling are the same.

Well, you have made a very valid point here, and I agree with you on this. Risk management is indeed a very important factor that I missed mentioning, and yes, without proper risk management and emotional control, we could lose a fortune. No matter how knowledgeable a trader we are, we will still blow our accounts, and that's the reality.

Emotional control is actually the hardest part of trading because by the time we understand it we have already lost a lot, like fear and greed are the biggest enemies of any trader, and no matter how good our FA and TA are, if we can't control our emotions, we will still end up making bad decisions, so yes, you have added a very important point here.

You are right aside the knowledge and experience in trading there are other little things that we don’t take for granted because when we do then we will blame ourselves for the outcome. Because talking about risk management and emotional control, when a trader lacks this risk management skill and also the emotional control then our success isn’t guaranteed by our knowledge alone but it still depends on our risk management and emotions. Some market conditions are scale through by proper risk management and emotional control not just knowledge alone.