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Today at 03:54:00 AM
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Holy fuck.  I sent a merit, and I had not even realized how fake that image is.  In these cases, I wished I could take it back or that the member would be banned from the forum or at least some other punishment, like suspension in order to pay for such deception.




@shahzadafzal on previous thread wrote that my bitcoin mining pizza was AI generated picture or heavily manipulated digitally. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5583351.msg66819775#msg66819775 Since entry thread already closed, I would like to clarify few thing.

This bitcoin mining pizza was 100% handmade by me with my family without any AI image generation, without any photo editing except resize before upload, without digital compositing and no digital photobashing.

To be honest i am especially my kids really sad, remembering hours of our work dismissed as AI based on conjecture. On the other hand, I was also surprised that the AI ​​rated my pizza as unnaturally precise, even though the results were far from our expectations. When we decided to end the process (almost midnight), we all remarked that if we had given it more time, the results would have been even better.

Through this article I declare that this pizza is made from scratch, baked, topped and photographed by myself with the help of my children and wife. We didn't make a video of the making but we took some photos as attached.

We start making this pizza early morning and took the picture of ingredient first. We forget take picture of black olive and frozened pesto sauce. With 560gr flour, we make the pizza dough using stand mixer and attached picture are image of dough that has been kneaded and left to rest for 1 hour before being rolled out.






The next photo is the dough with pesto sauce after being pricked with a fork, my kids very happy stab pizza dough with a fork.




Then we put it in the oven and bake it at 250 degrees top and bottom heat for about 10 minutes (I've used this oven to make pizza in 2025)




We still had time to take photos after the pizza was finished baking before we put the toppings on, my daughter take front view and top view.






Before adding the toppings, we placed the pizza on non-stick baking paper to make it easier to remove from the pan after baking. Previously, we made bitcoin coins from grated mozzarella cheese, but we didn't have time to paint them, but we placed them on top of the mozzarella circle. For the ingredients and details on how to make each part, see the next photo.






Photo of pizza after being baked in the oven for 5 minutes at 150 degrees Celsius on the bottom heat only.After that, we put the mozzarella in the shape of a bitcoin coin that has been colored gold. and take dome picture from many several angles and choose two to upload.






Matter of fact :
All circuit paths were created manually using cream cheese.
All toppings were cut and placed individually by hand.
The pizza was baked, assembled, and photographed in my house without the aid of AI or digital editing and these are the tools

To make precise shapes I rely on a vegetable cutter. For the writing NGU, SHA-256, 10,000 BTC & 21 M I used a purple vegetable cutter (actually originally I was going to use writing from melted mozzarella but unfortunately the silicone alphabet mold I had was too small) I have used this vegetable cutter in the 2025 pizza contest. The black round board that I used as a photo base I also used in the 2025 pizza contest, only I painted the other side black. I also make circuit path on those board. Gold lustre dust dan lustre dust solvent liquid for coloring bitcoin coins from mozareela, biggest stainless still ring / circle mold, i use it when bake the pizza with topping, to keep the mozzarella cheese surrounded by black olives so that it stays still and doesn't melted anywhere.






Some of the remaining ingredients that I still have




This black (sarong) cloth is usually worn by my son for prayer but I cut it to use as a photo background




Cream cheese to make circuit path, just put it in a piping bag and cut the tip to the size I want




The silicon mold and equipment used to make gold Bitcoin coins made from mozzarella cheese. Interestingly, I'd never applied edible luster dust to food before, so I only painted the coins after the pizza and toppings were baked and photographed, even though I should have waited a while for them to dry so the shining gold would be clearly visible.




Next is the tool I used to write my ID: bitcointalk.org, then b1exch.to, and the Bitcoin logo. Zooming out clearly shows that this was made by a fifth-grade student. My son made it from simple tools and colored it by hand. LOL






One of the screenshots I took from my gadget about detail of photos (time, date, etc)




Nevertheless, hopefully my handmade work can still be appreciated for the its effort to finish it and creativity behind it.

Thank you to everyone who has provide support, feedback and appreciation on my work.

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Today at 04:04:03 AM
Last edit: Today at 04:33:00 AM by (BTC)
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This pizza isn't AI. You have multiple pictures of different angles of the pizza, ingredients, and your square card that has your username on it. All of them have random/arbitrary details (when zoomed in suuuuper close) that are [1]exactly the same (with consideration to different photo angle, lighting, resolution, etc), or, [2]make sense when context of forward progression of time is taken into consideration.


[1]Top half of the "X" in b1exch square card across 4 seperate images uploaded by @OP



[2]Top left corner of the 10,000 BTC across 4 seperate images uploaded by @OP




The prize pool increasing leads me to believe there will be more AI-generated submissions.

Although I hope this doesn't happen, I can't deny how entertaining it was observing as a guest viewer, people passing off AI pizzas as real pizzas last year. Shit was hilarious.

I don't think I've observed any AI pizzas this year, actually. Well, none from the quick glances looking through them over the multiple-day span of the contest. I guessed there would be AI pizzas, but it turns out the real pizzas are getting labled as AI! What a time to be alive. Anyway, your pizza is visually pleasing on the eyes and I want to eat it. +1

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Today at 04:44:56 AM
Last edit: Today at 05:12:42 AM by shahzadafzal
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@shahzadafzal on previous thread wrote that my bitcoin mining pizza was AI generated picture or heavily manipulated digitally. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5583351.msg66819775#msg66819775 Since entry thread already closed, I would like to clarify few thing.

This bitcoin mining pizza was 100% handmade by me with my family without any AI image generation, without any photo editing except resize before upload, without digital compositing and no digital photobashing.

To be honest i am especially my kids really sad, remembering hours of our work dismissed as AI based on conjecture. On the other hand, I was also surprised that the AI ​​rated my pizza as unnaturally precise, even though the results were far from our expectations. When we decided to end the process (almost midnight), we all remarked that if we had given it more time, the results would have been even better.

Through this article I declare that this pizza is made from scratch, baked, topped and photographed by myself with the help of my children and wife. We didn't make a video of the making but we took some photos as attached.

We start making this pizza early morning and took the picture of ingredient first. We forget take picture of black olive and frozened pesto sauce. With 560gr flour, we make the pizza dough using stand mixer and attached picture are image of dough that has been kneaded and left to rest for 1 hour before being rolled out.
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Matter of fact :
All circuit paths were created manually using cream cheese.
All toppings were cut and placed individually by hand.
The pizza was baked, assembled, and photographed in my house without the aid of AI or digital editing and these are the tools

To make precise shapes I rely on a vegetable cutter. For the writing NGU, SHA-256, 10,000 BTC & 21 M I used a purple vegetable cutter (actually originally I was going to use writing from melted mozzarella but unfortunately the silicone alphabet mold I had was too small) I have used this vegetable cutter in the 2025 pizza contest. The black round board that I used as a photo base I also used in the 2025 pizza contest, only I painted the other side black. I also make circuit path on those board. Gold lustre dust dan lustre dust solvent liquid for coloring bitcoin coins from mozareela, biggest stainless still ring / circle mold, i use it when bake the pizza with topping, to keep the mozzarella cheese surrounded by black olives so that it stays still and doesn't melted anywhere.

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You know what? Who pointed out this to me? My 8 year old daughter she said baba why there's a glue on the pizza?



I really didn't wanted to point it out but now after those pictures I see something work behind.

But I have a question when did you write "I am not AI"?? During pizza making? But why?Huh

Also I'm really more interested on how did you write those 21M,  SHA-256, NGU and 10.000 BTC. They are so perfect unless your have perfect molds for these too.

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Advance sorry to your kids Smiley

I'm really sorry but Grok still disagree https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5LWNvcHk_78d8324d-37c9-412b-8c5d-6c023c468147

I gave your additional images to AI and asked if it will change Grok's opinion.

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Today at 05:04:05 AM
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I sent this pizza to Grok and he described it in various ways and said it was an AI generated pizza. But I think this is a complete misrepresentation, we can easily see that it is not made by AI at all and you have given all the details that you have made here. Moreover, I gave ChatGPT a picture of this pizza and the feedback from there was that the pizza was made by hand and it does not look like AI. However, the way Grok explained it is correct but we can easily understand that these pictures are not generated by AI. Moreover, I asked Grok with another picture if the pizza was made by AI or not but he said that picture was also AI generated, in that case I understood that Grok has given a complete false explanation here. However, AI generated pictures are very easy to understand but we can easily be sure that yours is not AI at all.

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It is false positive from Grok. The AI might not always provide the accurate results, evaluating an actual pizza that lacks these unusual toppings and designs might have end up producing that result. If you try the rest of the images, you will get the same false positive report from the AI.

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Response to you from the actual thread, since it is closed, I am tagged you here  Wink

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I gave your additional images to AI and asked if it will change Grok's opinion.
Try all the images posted, it will produce the same results. I checked a few images in Grok and it said Yes, this image is almost certainly AI-generated..

Conclusion is that, it is a false positive.

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Today at 06:37:44 AM
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Also I'm really more interested on how did you write those 21M,  SHA-256, NGU and 10.000 BTC. They are so perfect unless your have perfect molds for these too.

Edit:
Advance sorry to your kids Smiley

I'm really sorry but Grok still disagree https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5LWNvcHk_78d8324d-37c9-412b-8c5d-6c023c468147

I gave your additional images to AI and asked if it will change Grok's opinion.

It's not quite perfect up close, I mean the shape is not precise and identical for each letter as a printer. But I can see that the position of every detail of the text hasn't shifted perspectively even when the image is taken from different angles (I don't believe AI can do that).
And on the other hand, I have to doubt Grok's ability to analyze this image. I mean, it only took 31secs to come to a conclusion? Let's ask again with two angled shots from Op.

Subjectively (you can ignore this part), Op is from my sub-local members. I have a little idea about his quality and reputation as a forum member and I believe he will not use Ai to submit this contest entry.

 
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You know what? Who pointed out this to me? My 8 year old daughter she said baba why there's a glue on the pizza?



I really didn't wanted to point it out but now after those pictures I see something work behind.

Tell your daughter, our pizza is 100% edible. We don't use glue on this pizza. To attach the zucchini and eggplant rolls, I use a micro skewer. What she looks like glue are the creases in the dough when I roll it with my fingers. I was pleased with Grok's review of the details of my pizza, except for the part where Grok concluded there was digital manipulation. Actually, my wife wasn't confident with the results, and the details were far from our expectations. Hence, the post attributed our lack of patience, precision, and passion.
To make circuit path just use processed cream cheese or you can mix with parmesan and garlic, put in piping bag and 100% it will not melted anywhere when it baked.

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But I have a question when did you write "I am not AI"?? During pizza making? But why?Huh

I write the word "i am not AI" this morning to reply on your accusation (based on grok advise as your dicussion partner). After read your review, i collected all tools and remaining ingredients, take picture for clarification.



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Also I'm really more interested on how did you write those 21M,  SHA-256, NGU and 10.000 BTC. They are so perfect unless your have perfect molds for these too.

If you often make bento (Japanese-style children's lunches), you're probably familiar with cookie cutters or vegetable cutters in various shapes. My purple vegie cutter package doesn't have hyphen cutter, so i use I cutter and cut each end to make it shorter. Hopefully, the details below will answer your questions. I made your ID complete with a cream cheese frame.



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If you often make bento (Japanese-style children's lunches), you're probably familiar with cookie cutters or vegetable cutters in various shapes. My purple vegie cutter package doesn't have hyphen cutter, so i use I cutter and cut each end to make it shorter. Hopefully, the details below will answer your questions. I made your ID complete with a cream cheese frame.


wow I rest my case. Your pizza is not AI and you win my heart.

Yes definitely will shown to my little fixies and they will be happy too.



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It is false positive from Grok. The AI might not always provide the accurate results, evaluating an actual pizza that lacks these unusual toppings and designs might have end up producing that result. If you try the rest of the images, you will get the same false positive report from the AI.

This is what Grok said about shahzadafzal’s pizza:

Quote from: Grok
This one is likely AI-generated (or heavily AI-assisted).

Why it looks fake:
  • Too perfect symmetry: The clock design with Roman numerals (XII, IX, VI, III) and Bitcoin "B" pepperoni slices is extremely precise and evenly spaced. Real hand-placed toppings rarely achieve this level of geometric perfection.
  • Cheese Bitcoin logo: The large central cheese "B" has very clean, sharp edges that don't quite match how melted cheese naturally behaves on a hot pizza. It looks more like a digitally placed graphic.
  • Pepperoni Bitcoin symbols: The yellow Bitcoin logos cut into the pepperoni are unusually crisp and consistent across all slices. Cutting intricate symbols into every pepperoni by hand and having them bake perfectly like this is extremely difficult.
  • Overall composition: The pizza is flawlessly round, the cheese melt is uniformly "artistic," and the red box background with the physical Bitcoin coin feels staged like a product render. No natural imperfections, drips, or baking variations you'd see in a real oven.
  • Lighting: Flat and overly even, lacking the natural shadows and highlights of a real photo taken from above.

I think we can safely disregard Grok’s judgment on whether an image is AI generated because the false positive rate is going to be very high. The OP was caught using AI before to enhance their writing and that might give people a reason to be skeptical, but in this situation, the evidence they have presented is enough for me to believe it is handmade and not artificially generated.

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Yes the use of moulds and cutters has helped in the neatness look to the pizza also the
presentation and light, its excellent which would lead to suspicion of AI generation.
The key here is that the toppings were only baked for a few minutes which preserved
their integrity

To me this was made more to be on display or shown off rather than something edible
which is not necessarily a bad thing.

This is more like an art installation than a pizza and eventhough it doesnt look appetising
it is unique, serious amount of work and care done!

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This bitcoin mining pizza was 100% handmade by me with my family without any AI image generation, without any photo editing except resize before upload, without digital compositing and no digital photobashing.

But I have a question when did you write "I am not AI"?? During pizza making? But why?Huh
I had just the same question, but going through is see he has answered it already,
This is actually an impressive pizza that the work of art is questionable. Looking at it from the positive side OP,  you pizza is Soo good that people think it's done by AI
Capturing you own as AI says it look whey too better than others including mine because I participated as well Cheesy

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You did a perferct job with your family on this pizza. I like the art and the concept of a BTC mining pizza, though it doesn't look edible to me. Seems more like chewing on some electronic motherboard ..haha. I wouldn't really blame anyone thinking it's AI-generated. I actually got convinced after seeing the mold you used in the design and even a scale rule that ensured that your lines were perfect. I think you deserve to win though I'm yet to see all the submissions.

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Today at 09:17:11 AM
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I think we can safely disregard Grok’s judgment on whether an image is AI generated because the false positive rate is going to be very high. The OP was caught using AI before to enhance their writing and that might give people a reason to be skeptical, but in this situation, the evidence they have presented is enough for me to believe it is handmade and not artificially generated.

I agree and I did try with other images and I guess since now AI models maintain memory and context it will now lean towards their first analysis.


Yes the use of moulds and cutters has helped in the neatness look to the pizza also the
presentation and light, its excellent which would lead to suspicion of AI generation.
The key here is that the toppings were only baked for a few minutes which preserved
their integrity

To me this was made more to be on display or shown off rather than something edible
which is not necessarily a bad thing.

This is more like an art installation than a pizza and eventhough it doesnt look appetising
it is unique, serious amount of work and care done!

Well although I'm convinced that is hand made pizza but just out of curiosity I did try to make and AI image similar Smiley

and results are not disappointing... today AI can do "everything" and and it's scary how AI is progressing




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Today at 09:26:50 AM
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So this is just another prove that you can do everything on your own and AI will still claim it  Angry

Now, I understand why there is a disclaimer note on AI that says some information it generates can be inaccurate and should not be completely rely on. This is another case to confirm it.

Op, I'm happy you are able to defend yourself with convinceable evidence. Assuming you don't have everything intact again to prove your case, you'll be misjudged.

What an irony era, if it looks perfect it's an AI uhh  Huh

 
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Today at 09:42:52 AM
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Sometimes AI can throw you off, and they are not yet as perfect as we expect them to be. I have used Grok numerous times, and it has given me wrong answers. I wouldn't want to 100% rely on its output.

Another way OP can prove that the photo was never manipulated using AI is to send the original photo to one of the trusted members or a competition organised to analyse the metadata. I am more than certain if the photo were simply taken using a phone camera, all the details would be shown, including the time and camera type that took the photo. This should be easy to verify, minus OP having to expose his privacy to the public in the name of trying to prove that he is innocent.

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and results are not disappointing...

That looks disappointing. Notice how the number nine circle dough looks identical, the "A" and "9" circles leaving the center triangle and circle, and all the numbers and letters on the dough are printed precisely in the center.

 
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Of all that I see that is wrong about his work was when he failed to continue to show the process in making the decoration, just as we can see that during the preparatory stage, all the making procedures where being shown, but why was the decoration not included part of the procedures as well, maybe this could have just saved him of this unnecessary arguments of being AI generated pizza.
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I am not sure I would eat this pizza, but I would not say this was AI generated, even before OP uploaded additional photos.
It is true that AI crap is getting better and harder to identify, but this was not the case here.
AI detection tools are far from perfect and I would never blindly trust their results.


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I never thought I would ever experience such a bizarre case on a forum - one user tells another that he "baked" a pizza with the help of AI, and that user then has to defend himself by all means possible to prove his innocence. I really don't understand people who ask stupid AI for every little thing - so have we become so unintelligent (I won't use another word) that stupid algorithms tell us what's true and what's not?

By the way, the pizza looks great, kudos to the effort put into making it - grok is trash just like its owner.

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My first thought is who cares anymore.

If it is ai it looks great and took time
If it is real it looks great and took time.

Either way the art is great.



There is a TV show is it cake or is it real.

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