Belfast Riots

[JeromeTash]

I haven't been following this story develop so well, but when I watched the news, the riots seemed to be very serious, as cars and properties were getting damaged by riots. What I would like to understand is what the actual cause of these riots is. Is it just that stabbing attack incident, or is there more to this (ethnic or racial divide)?
Who are the people behind the riots?

[montaga]

It seems Protestant and Catholics teamed up and put 800 year war to rest to fight a new religious war.
Maybe wise to leave the Ireland if not local.
This thing got legs.

[caroasi]

The concern by the Irish is that new immigrants are committing more crimes than the general population including knife attacks and rape. Another concern that has been brought up that I've heard is dramatically higher rates by immigrants for usage of government resources, causing a net drain for the economy.

The amazing thing is the left will supporting immigration but not on a right to travel basis. We have no talk about a right to travel or drive being protected, even though its a natural right. I have disdain for the left on this topic because they are willing to protect immigrants but not on the basis of human rights that I strongly support... instead, they pile on with the right wing accusing people of being "sovereign citizens" if they support basic human rights like travel rights. Instead its just a pragmatic alliance issue where they collect more votes to their political party and power as an upside which they view as exceeding the downside of collateral crime rates. So, big disappointment there. So, the left uses the issue for politics of the worst kind. (Politicians mantra: 1. line your pockets 2. reward your friends 3. punish your enemies).

This is quite an extreme ethical dilemma. Who wants to be the person who lost a friend, family member, or is them selves sent to the hospital or worse because they were inviting of a block of foreign people? It seems like Somalians are the specific block of foreigners in question in this case. The philosophic challenge is extreme. If 90% of Somalians committed crimes including knife point muggings, would that justify automatic denial of any and all Somalians to the area? My first intuition is YES. How about 10% though... which would still be vastly worse than the general population. Or what if Somalians did such crime at only 1% higher rates than the general population of Ireland? It would seem the intuition is then no, which then makes it a very arbitrary and subjective judgement, meaning there seems to be a flaw, unless the actual crime rate was 51% or more in which case you could argue probable cause for violence, but no population in the world is likely to be quite that bad.

Yes, I do believe that it is justifiable to physically force a large number of foreigners who are a clear drain on the economy and committing lots of crimes. I don't have the data on that, but its a good bet that is the case.

[Ucy]

Migrants ought to be people with similar mindsets with their host otherwise you let them form their little nations in your country and gradually assimilate them into the general society, depending on well they do with the culture of their host

But let's be honest, if a migrant becomes completely assimilated into your system, you would end up liking him because he will behave and look like you regardless of color. This is for those who are worried about others replacing their race. Your distance fathers were abit like them in the past, but you have become completely different from your fathers, not because you evolved, but due to the new way of life.  For example, if not that the Word of our CREATOR warned believers not to judge by appearance I could easily identify a Christain and muslims/unbelievers wherever they are regardless of race. The sheep, regardless of color/race look quite thesame.


Ofcourse, you have to be careful of people from certain countries or cultures, especially those who are at the bottom of the matrix. You could consider them as kids or jungle beasts that are newly introduced into a zoo and need constant guidance and supervision to prevent them from misbehaving and hurting the tamed beasts. Unfortunately, many are left unsupervised or unguided.




The above advice is also applicable to this forum. Those below the system need guidance to avoid conflict with those above thrm. There is also a problem of the unguided bringing the top dwellers down and turning top societies, communities or forums into third world ones