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Today at 03:33:50 AM
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Sports betting is not only about predicting which team will win, sometimes the movement of the odds before the match can tell a lot about how the betting market is reacting.

For example, if Team A opens at 2.10 and later drops to 1.80, that usually means a lot of money is coming in on Team A, or the bookmaker received new information that changed the expected probability. It could be any of the following..  injury news, lineup changes  or sharp bettors placing heavy bets early.

But did we know that odds movement can also be tricky?
Just because the odds are dropping does not always mean the team is a guaranteed good pick, its just that sometimes the market overreacts, especially when a popular team is involved. Public bettors may push the line too much, and that can create better value on the other side. This is why line movement is important to understand. It gives bettors an idea of market sentiment, but it should not be followed blindly. The better question is not just “where is the money going?” but “is the new price still valuable?”

Q: Do you usually check odds movement before placing a bet?

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Today at 03:48:02 AM
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Q: Do you usually check odds movement before placing a bet?

Sometimes, because checking the odds requires monitoring and I have no site to check for odds or line movement. If you have one, please share it.

Well, I have heard about this. People say follow the line movement and it will lead us to victory, but you are right. Doing it blindly will only lead to the opposite of victory.

This is already quite technical. Not everyone can relate because some bettors would just check which team will win. They see odds like 1.40 and take it because the odds suggest it is likely to win, but they do not really know if it is profitable. First, they do not have a record of it, and they are also blind about their losing bets and results.

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Today at 04:16:49 AM
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For people who are serious about betting on matches, they may have continuous monitoring of the fluctuations in the odds given by the bookie, many things do affect the bookie's odds, so we often see it.
I bet at most two hours before the match starts and I have decided to bet, because of the limited time to monitor it all, just based on seeing the team that will compete and the interesting odds to bet.
I predict the outcome of the match based on what I analyze on the team that will compete, such as injuries and announcements of match starters, or information available before I decide to place a bet, the rest I do not pay attention to.

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Today at 04:33:25 AM
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For people who are serious about betting on matches, they may have continuous monitoring of the fluctuations in the odds given by the bookie, many things do affect the bookie's odds, so we often see it.

In that case, you should have a limited number of bets because if there are too many, it is hard to monitor them all. Some people also do not see this as an effective method for them. They just see it as a waste of time, so they prefer to bet whenever they want and just wait for the outcome of the game. This line movement thing is critical for those who bet a decent amount of money, like people who are really invested in this type of gambling.

So the question is, are we already that invested? And does the amount we bet show it?

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Today at 05:12:35 AM
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Q: Do you usually check odds movement before placing a bet?
Their was once I normally find out time to monitor  all of this to see if I can be getting things right especially when I intend staking something big, but all result me into more lost because it don't always worked in my favour no matter how I try to get it right. However, ever since I tried it yet still not having what I want, I have decide not to stress off when placing my bet, after all my first intension was just to have fun and nothing more. All I need is just to stake the little amount of I can afford to lost then stay ready for any result.

Personally, based on how busy I am with work and other personal stuff, all I do I just to go get myself entertain and that is fine by me.

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Today at 05:23:41 AM
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The regular adjustment could make us think there was a reason to the bookies frequent change in those odds but what if there was no reason for them to have been making the change because sometimes is not only one team that got the adjustment of odds but most times the two teams odd are reduced so actually it could also be that bookies just intentionally want to reduce them so that there payout from those that might be wining from any of the side will not receive as they should have gotten when the odds is very higher. You could also be saying there mind about reducing the odds because of the later discovery they had from any of the club.

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Today at 06:22:22 AM
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The simple reality about sports betting is that because everyone is betting on one team to win doesn't mean they are going to win, sports betting isn't a democracy where the majority get to have their way, of course odds move for a number of different reasons but slot of bets placed on one team is the major factor, personally I don't allow something like that influence my pick when I gamble, it's better to lose from your original choice then to change your mind and then lose.

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Today at 06:59:10 AM
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For people who are serious about betting on matches, they may have continuous monitoring of the fluctuations in the odds given by the bookie, many things do affect the bookie's odds, so we often see it.

In that case, you should have a limited number of bets because if there are too many, it is hard to monitor them all. Some people also do not see this as an effective method for them. They just see it as a waste of time, so they prefer to bet whenever they want and just wait for the outcome of the game. This line movement thing is critical for those who bet a decent amount of money, like people who are really invested in this type of gambling.

So the question is, are we already that invested? And does the amount we bet show it?

The answer is definitely no, because I am not investing or using large funds for betting, I only use funds to bet for the adrenaline of the match and when I win I will get double the pleasure of the match results and also the bets I win.
 
Sometimes I make one or two bets if the match and team are interesting, I don't think it's a lot unless I bet parlay, but honestly it's the same, it's boring, because the difference is sometimes insignificant from the movement of the odds, unless it's in the match, if you want to go in at that time.

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Today at 07:07:49 AM
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I think paying attention to the line moving is just asking to second guess yourself. If you let the odds determine your bet you're gonna lose more often then you win. I would rather rely on my homework of a team and my ability to judge a team as a whole vs an injury or whatever manipulating the odds. 1 player not playing(unless it's the superstar of the team) does not decide a game.

Losing the star of the team would be the only case I might second guess myself.

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Q: Do you usually check odds movement before placing a bet?

No, if you knew what’s the real winning probability based on your own analysis then you determine the true odds without relying to odds movement.

Monitoring this movement is useless if you don’t know the right odds for that specific pick since you already mentioned that it’s tricky due to many factor which means it can be a help or trap.

Much better to stick on your own analysis and bet on a pick that you think has a fair odds.

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Q: Do you usually check odds movement before placing a bet?

For popular matches, the prematch odds on sports betting websites are not as volatile as the live match odds. As long as the score hasn't changed yet when I place the bet, I will accept the odds change. Not sure if other websites have this feature, but on the sports betting website I use, there's an option for us to automatically accept any odds change. Sometimes I use this feature because, under certain conditions, the bet can't go through since the odds are really volatile due to the aggressiveness of both teams create many chances in a short time.

The other reason why I don't really care about odds movement is because sometimes I bet for the team, not for the money. It may sound too naive, like I don't need money, I don't care about my money, or the money that I could win. I am often emotionally attached to teams/matches. Sometimes, I also do it for both, for the money and for the team, like betting on the opponents of my favorite team. So if my favorite team loses, I still get money. If my favorite team wins, the bet is the cost of my happiness. When I only chase the money, I usually try to have a parlay bet that consists of random teams I don't even know until the odds reach thousands or more Grin

I also never bet more than $10 on a single match, and a maximum of $5 for a thousand-odds parlay Grin

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Today at 07:55:28 AM
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Sports betting is not only about predicting which team will win, sometimes the movement of the odds before the match can tell a lot about how the betting market is reacting.

For example, if Team A opens at 2.10 and later drops to 1.80, that usually means a lot of money is coming in on Team A, or the bookmaker received new information that changed the expected probability. It could be any of the following..  injury news, lineup changes  or sharp bettors placing heavy bets early.

But did we know that odds movement can also be tricky?
Just because the odds are dropping does not always mean the team is a guaranteed good pick, its just that sometimes the market overreacts, especially when a popular team is involved. Public bettors may push the line too much, and that can create better value on the other side. This is why line movement is important to understand. It gives bettors an idea of market sentiment, but it should not be followed blindly. The better question is not just “where is the money going?” but “is the new price still valuable?”

Q: Do you usually check odds movement before placing a bet?

From my personal experience, I have the opposite impression. That is, when the odds change from 2.10 to 1.80, it signifies a much greater change in probability than the numbers (in this case, 8%). In live betting, odds change sharply and dramatically, but that's a different matter. If the odds change on pre game market, it's a serious sign that bookmakers have learned some significant information, as they generally make minor adjustments to odds. A move from 2.10 to 1.80 is very significant.

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Today at 07:59:53 AM
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Sports betting is not only about predicting which team will win, sometimes the movement of the odds before the match can tell a lot about how the betting market is reacting.

For example, if Team A opens at 2.10 and later drops to 1.80, that usually means a lot of money is coming in on Team A, or the bookmaker received new information that changed the expected probability. It could be any of the following..  injury news, lineup changes  or sharp bettors placing heavy bets early.

But did we know that odds movement can also be tricky?
Just because the odds are dropping does not always mean the team is a guaranteed good pick, its just that sometimes the market overreacts, especially when a popular team is involved. Public bettors may push the line too much, and that can create better value on the other side. This is why line movement is important to understand. It gives bettors an idea of market sentiment, but it should not be followed blindly. The better question is not just “where is the money going?” but “is the new price still valuable?”

Q: Do you usually check odds movement before placing a bet?

If the odds on the bet I have chosen start to decrease, I will not doubt my pick. On the contrary, I will take it as confirmation that I have selected a good bet. But if the odds on the bet I am planning to place start to increase, I will pay attention to it and try to understand why it is happening. I may even decide to reconsider and ultimately avoid placing that bet.

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Q: Do you usually check odds movement before placing a bet?
Definitely but it's not the only criteria I look to make a decision, it's actually part of the overall decision making. Whenever I place a bet I usually take a look at the odds first to see the API provider (or bet volume) and if I confirm that team A has lower odds than team B it usually means that they are more likely to win but we all know that it's not the case that's why I move forward to do the H2H, previous matches history performance, team standing, score probability, etc. and compare the two teams and honestly it works for me but not all the time.

I first realized that looking at the odds is not enough when I tried to do a parlay and keep my the odds at 1.2x and below and to my surprise 3 out of 10 matches lose and that's why I learned that looking on the odds is enough.

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Today at 08:17:41 AM
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a drop in odds for a bet might show that the likelihood of that bet coming in has increased, even if slightly. but there’s another reality we must face: the odds have gone down  Smiley. so even if you think that the lower the odds, the more certain the bet becomes, you shouldn’t skip the fact that the odds have dropped. even if you now have a more certain bet, you’ll earn a lower profit when you win. if you placed that bet before the odds dropped, that’s the best-case scenario with this.

 
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Today at 08:59:53 AM
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Q: Do you usually check odds movement before placing a bet?
Actually, I weigh the odds and it helps me sense if something might be at stake which might account to the reason more money is coming into a particular pick, I'll have to research more on new developments regarding the teams involved and if I cannot find any, I just go with my predictions regardless of the odds because it can be deceitful couple of times. In rare cases that I'm not having the interest to research on a team that I actually don't follow-up, I bet on the money line, trusting in whatsoever decisions that is attracting more money on a particular selection.

 
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Today at 09:29:51 AM
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Odds movement isn't just about money coming in, but also relates to pre & current events. For example, in the middle of a match, if the home or away team gets a red card, it will cause the odds to change drastically. I usually only observe the pre-match section, 2 days before the match starts I will look at the odds, then I will do a second check 5 hours before the match starts.

I realize that what I do doesn't have a strong impact on winning, but at least it increases my slip winning chances.

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Today at 09:32:04 AM
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Odds movement can be a useful information, but it can not or suppose to replace proper analysis. You see most times bettors are too focused on where the odds do moves and forgets to check other important factors, teams form and motivation. At the end of everything, the odds movement is just a piece of puzzle and following it blindly can lead to mistakes, most especially when the market opinion don't go with what is happening on the pitch .

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Today at 09:36:22 AM
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Q: Do you usually check odds movement before placing a bet?
Yes this is my parameter even what to pick on sport betting. But if its my bias team whatever the odds I will still bet on that team ( my favorite team) but for normal sportd betting I usually depend on the odds.

Perfect example is when Pacman has a fight on Mayweather, even the odds of the bet will favor Mayweather I will still bet on Pacman because thats a bias for me. Ofcourse your goal is to win on a bet but it different story if its like that.

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Today at 09:56:21 AM
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Q: Do you usually check odds movement before placing a bet?

Not all the time, although if I'm already lock by bet then regardless of the movement of the odds, I'm still going to place it. Only regret if the odds moves lower though, as I could have bet earlier to get that higher odd.

And obviously if there is a swing or shift in the odds, usually a big bettor or big supporter of that team or individual pour a lot of money in the last minute of the game. Maybe others read it as a way that the it could be a higher chance to win because someone or group of gamblers suddenly decided to throw a lot of money.

 
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