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Today at 12:52:48 PM
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Sometimes, i do check the odds movement, but not often. Odds movement has same meant as market expectation. So when it's only moving slightly. I don't think it's affecting the result. However, it's kinda different when there is a big odds movement means a critical thing happen to the club, which may affect their future outcome.

However, i believe odds movement played only a minor role in most of cases. So i'm not really concerning it.
Odds don't change dramatically in most cases. Even if they do, it won't be very significant. If the odds drop, it means most bettors are betting on a clear favorite, and bookmakers lower the odds because there are already so many people interested. This is normal, and I don't see anything wrong with that. But if everything changes proportionally, then there's cause for concern.

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Today at 01:18:02 PM
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Odds don't change dramatically in most cases. Even if they do, it won't be very significant. If the odds drop, it means most bettors are betting on a clear favorite, and bookmakers lower the odds because there are already so many people interested. This is normal, and I don't see anything wrong with that. But if everything changes proportionally, then there's cause for concern.

Usually yes, but at this World Cup I often see a different picture, so if you see acceptable odds, it’s better to place a bet right away, as they can then change significantly to your disadvantage. The most striking example I saw was how, after Spain's game with Cape Verde, which ended in a draw, Belgium's odds for the game against Egypt fell from 1.7 to 1.5. A crowd of bettors rushed to recoup their losses and crashed the market. The funniest thing is that Belgium didn't win either, so the bettors only increased their losses.

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Today at 01:18:14 PM
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Odds don't change dramatically in most cases. Even if they do, it won't be very significant. If the odds drop, it means most bettors are betting on a clear favorite, and bookmakers lower the odds because there are already so many people interested. This is normal, and I don't see anything wrong with that. But if everything changes proportionally, then there's cause for concern.

Odds are less noticeable than the spread, in basketball this is what I notice, if the line moves by 1 to 2 points, that is already big, and on moneyline it is also a big change.

But simply looking at the odds and deciding based on your read is not going to give you long-term wins, because the answer is that when there is a line movement, you should investigate the reason behind it. And from there, you decide which side you will take.

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Today at 01:28:23 PM
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Odds don't change dramatically in most cases. Even if they do, it won't be very significant. If the odds drop, it means most bettors are betting on a clear favorite, and bookmakers lower the odds because there are already so many people interested. This is normal, and I don't see anything wrong with that. But if everything changes proportionally, then there's cause for concern.

Odds are less noticeable than the spread, in basketball this is what I notice, if the line moves by 1 to 2 points, that is already big, and on moneyline it is also a big change.

But simply looking at the odds and deciding based on your read is not going to give you long-term wins, because the answer is that when there is a line movement, you should investigate the reason behind it. And from there, you decide which side you will take.

You are absolutely right, I have experimented this myself and I ended up wishing I never did, I decided that i don't want to stress myself with analysis and research and so on, that I will always bet on the favorite since that is the team the public have researched on and think they would win the match.

My thought was that even if the favorites loses, it would be a few, that is that the majority of the favorites will always win and that will make me stay in profit if I can be betting with the same amount of money and manage to win more bets than I lose, this seemed like a perfect plan.
Long story short, I began betting and over time, I was losing far more than I was winning, at a point, I was forced to stop and start doing my own analysis and research before placing a bet and this was when I started seeing some improvement, a prove that the public isn't always right.

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Today at 01:33:18 PM
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Odds don't change dramatically in most cases. Even if they do, it won't be very significant. If the odds drop, it means most bettors are betting on a clear favorite, and bookmakers lower the odds because there are already so many people interested. This is normal, and I don't see anything wrong with that. But if everything changes proportionally, then there's cause for concern.

Odds are less noticeable than the spread, in basketball this is what I notice, if the line moves by 1 to 2 points, that is already big, and on moneyline it is also a big change.

But simply looking at the odds and deciding based on your read is not going to give you long-term wins, because the answer is that when there is a line movement, you should investigate the reason behind it. And from there, you decide which side you will take.

You are absolutely right, I have experimented this myself and I ended up wishing I never did, I decided that i don't want to stress myself with analysis and research and so on, that I will always bet on the favorite since that is the team the public have researched on and think they would win the match.
We learn from our experience, even me, I made some stupid bets before by just following some fixed strategy which will never be profitable in sports betting.
When we think it is easy to win, that means we already accepted that we will never win because the results are mostly losses.

My thought was that even if the favorites loses, it would be a few, that is that the majority of the favorites will always win and that will make me stay in profit if I can be betting with the same amount of money and manage to win more bets than I lose, this seemed like a perfect plan.
Long story short, I began betting and over time, I was losing far more than I was winning, at a point, I was forced to stop and start doing my own analysis and research before placing a bet and this was when I started seeing some improvement, a prove that the public isn't always right.
The good thing about point spread is that you can find value whether in the favorite or the underdog. It is quite tricky but we should accept that challenge because nothing is easy in sports betting, it might look easy but in reality, winning requires skills and skills cannot be acquired overnight. Experience is the bigger factor for that.

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Today at 02:47:55 PM
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Odds don't change dramatically in most cases. Even if they do, it won't be very significant. If the odds drop, it means most bettors are betting on a clear favorite, and bookmakers lower the odds because there are already so many people interested...

Usually yes, but at this World Cup I often see a different picture, so if you see acceptable odds, it’s better to place a bet right away, as they can then change significantly to your disadvantage. The most striking example I saw was how, after Spain's game with Cape Verde, which ended in a draw, Belgium's odds for the game against Egypt fell from 1.7 to 1.5...
I think during the World Cup, there are many casual gamblers who bet emotionally, especially after unexpected results. Sometimes it simply happens because too much money is flowing to one side.
For example after Spain’s unexpected draw, many people probably thought that another favorite definitely wouldn’t make the same mistake, but football doesn’t work that way.
At the end of the day, betting is not just about who is more likely to win, but whether the price you’re getting makes sense.


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Today at 02:59:02 PM
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Odds don't change dramatically in most cases. Even if they do, it won't be very significant. If the odds drop, it means most bettors are betting on a clear favorite, and bookmakers lower the odds because there are already so many people interested. This is normal, and I don't see anything wrong with that. But if everything changes proportionally, then there's cause for concern.

Usually yes, but at this World Cup I often see a different picture, so if you see acceptable odds, it’s better to place a bet right away, as they can then change significantly to your disadvantage. The most striking example I saw was how, after Spain's game with Cape Verde, which ended in a draw, Belgium's odds for the game against Egypt fell from 1.7 to 1.5. A crowd of bettors rushed to recoup their losses and crashed the market. The funniest thing is that Belgium didn't win either, so the bettors only increased their losses.
Lol, you are very right but the other poster is right to, but then, I think for most sports books, they always sharply drop the odds of either the favorite or the underdog immediately a goal is scored by either of this sides..

I know this because the day USA played against one other country I can't remember the name currently, I actively followed and watched the odds from the beginning of the match till the end and the match began with USA sitting at above 2+ odds, this was where I placed my bet, the remained above 2 until USA scored their first goal and the odds immediately fell from 2+ to around 1.4 in a matter of or less than a minute while the odd on the opposing side increase a bit, not significant but just as USA kept scoring and their odds reduced gradually, the other side was enjoying a boosted odds until the match ended with USA winning that match by I think 3 or 4 goals to 1 from their opponent.

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Today at 04:05:23 PM
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Lol, you are very right but the other poster is right to, but then, I think for most sports books, they always sharply drop the odds of either the favorite or the underdog immediately a goal is scored by either of this sides..

I know this because the day USA played against one other country I can't remember the name currently, I actively followed and watched the odds from the beginning of the match till the end and the match began with USA sitting at above 2+ odds, this was where I placed my bet, the remained above 2 until USA scored their first goal and the odds immediately fell from 2+ to around 1.4 in a matter of or less than a minute while the odd on the opposing side increase a bit, not significant but just as USA kept scoring and their odds reduced gradually, the other side was enjoying a boosted odds until the match ended with USA winning that match by I think 3 or 4 goals to 1 from their opponent.
I have no doubt that there are professional bettors who have a keen sense of and understanding of the odds at any given moment during a match. For example, they bet when the odds are incredibly high and unrealistic, such as when one team scores. Furthermore, many probably base their strategy on underdogs, which no one believes in and the odds are also too high. Their ability to correctly assess odds gives them an advantage over other bettors who bet simply for the sake of betting. But beyond that, professionals have other advantages, including emotional stability.

 
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Today at 04:19:33 PM
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Odds don't change dramatically in most cases. Even if they do, it won't be very significant. If the odds drop, it means most bettors are betting on a clear favorite, and bookmakers lower the odds because there are already so many people interested. This is normal, and I don't see anything wrong with that. But if everything changes proportionally, then there's cause for concern.
Not often? Maybe we are betting on different games, because they can change dramatically as hell. And if you disagree, then we have definitions of "dramatical". Because i have placed several more bets when i found out that i could get like 10x more with new updated odds if i won.

They can change dramatically from bookmaker announcing the odds to the start of the match and after that, odds for winner change like a rollercoaster again. If you bet on last day, they probably won't be changing too much before the last minute, but are we talking about that?

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