[DISCUSSION] What if Gambling Looked Like TikTok / Reels / YT Shorts?

[TopTort777]

Before even I have read first post, by reading topic name I already knew that would be a bad idea. TikTok, Reels, YT Shorts they are generally what makes people addicted to scrolling social media, losing ability to focus on things and become dumber. And you want that in gambling? Even more addictive?

OP suggest to have multiple games in random order to appear and gambler would play them all. That wont happent most probably, because gambler would skip all the games until he finds game that he wants to play, play a bet and then continue swiping until he gets this game again. High chance he will accidentally play (and maybe lose) bet/game he did not want to play. Like he wants to play slots, but accidentally play mines.

[pawanjain]

What bugs me is how will they prove the results are the bet are not manipulated ?
What if someone has already seen that reel/short and knows the outcome? He would easily win then.

The issue is that every scenario bet will have to be unique and the outcome of it should be something that can be verifiable.
This concept sounds theoretically good but practically impossible.

[DPHOR]

Before even I have read first post, by reading topic name I already knew that would be a bad idea. TikTok, Reels, YT Shorts they are generally what makes people addicted to scrolling social media, losing ability to focus on things and become dumber. And you want that in gambling? Even more addictive?

To be frank, this could be very hard and since people can't focused while scrolling social media and is applicable to gambling, then people should know that this could make them more confusing and frustrating since these videos often distract people from having access to what they are doing.
So I was distracted entirely and makes me having to focus on those reel on my media page, although for that one must not lose anything rather lose attention to what they want to do at the moment.

[swogerino]

Some providers like In-Out for example already have gone and done some sort of what you are saying here only they have put these things in their aviator or crash games rather than creating a completely different new type like TikTok, or Youtube reels. I don't think the reels would be very widely accepted by gamblers as gamblers have been exposed for so long to slot machines and aviator games that definitely they would not be interested in this kind of new addition. Maybe if the new games can be added to already existing ones, only maybe gamblers can give them a try but as I said I very much doubt the gamblers would be interested in these type of games, or at the very least a very few gamblers can be interested in these type of games.

[bakasabo]

I think not everyone knows how to play all the game, even though they are simple. That might cause inconvenience when player swipe games and search for game he is familiar with. Dont know how is your experience with short video on social media, but I usually swipe a lot of videos until I find something interesting. Wont the same happens when gambler will be swiping casino games? Dont you think he will get tired faster or will play 1 game only and keep on swiping for several minutes until he finds preferred game again? Casino need players who play non-stop, instead of those who play and make a pause.

[Findingnemo]

So you didn't understand why TikTok and Shorts and every 30-second video platform went viral, it is because they don't need to decide what they want to watch and algo just picks them up and definitely they are not going to stress a bet over a swift wsipe and it can be for real.

You can make the games targeted for the vertical screen users because the traditional ones are more suitable for the horizontal and still now it'we been that way.

I agree with what you said about 30 seconds going viral because as you said with those who don't don't need to decide what they want to watch, so the algorithm will choose it automatically. I felt this myself when I deliberately searched for a video that, for example, was about sports and it is likely that in the future there will be more videos that are about sports too, so it is true that the algorithm chooses.

Social media algorithm are even more sketchy, it's like they will starts showing us how we feel without we even search anything related to it but talked to someone about the current situation or a call or text, but no one can explain how that happens.

[leea-1334]

Because nobody did anything new, because they discovered the best formulas to attract GenZ is flashing slots and colorful variations. Crypto gambling was so good when it appeared,,, until today I cannot find satisfaction like the old sites used to give.

But you know one thing also everywhere looks the same? The ironic thing is every casino makes 'Original' now and it is so not original  

[ralle14]

I've seen games that require you to swipe, but for casino games, this might be the first one.

If I want to play crash, i'd rather go with the traditional version since the visuals on other casino games don't hit the same as third-party slots.

The biggest challenge here is finding a way to keep gamblers interested because it can get boring and stale once you've played enough rounds.

I doubt it's innovation when games with scrolling mechanics were already a thing, but no one has tried implementing it in a casino.

[boyptc]

The first game I've thought of it is about crash since it doesn't really require a lot of time so it suits to the video format.

I think that a point of time will come that the gambling industry or the casino themselves will reinvent the games like with this idea.

Going with the VR and feeling that you're inside the casino, to this type of video game format as short as they are. Interesting but right now, it needs more study IMO.

[AmoreJaz]

The first game I've thought of it is about crash since it doesn't really require a lot of time so it suits to the video format.

I think that a point of time will come that the gambling industry or the casino themselves will reinvent the games like with this idea.

Going with the VR and feeling that you're inside the casino, to this type of video game format as short as they are. Interesting but right now, it needs more study IMO.

It has been years that VR is trying to penetrate in the gambling industry. But up until now, no solid site has offered such experience yet. I believe they are encountered by some bottlenecks such as the gadget to be used, and of course, the popularity of this kind of gambling site. But more than likely, it is the price that you need to pay to experience such. So once the public can afford this, I believe, it can easily go mainstream.

[alani123]

Well it kinds does.

Have you ever played slots on any online casino? It's so overwhelming an experience that it always feels overstimulating. People trying for the first time are easy to get addicted because it used many patterns the brain sees as a reward.

It's very similar to what tiktok does. In fact some people even accused tiktok of being similar to slots.

[yhiaali3]

Well it kinds does.

Have you ever played slots on any online casino? It's so overwhelming an experience that it always feels overstimulating. People trying for the first time are easy to get addicted because it used many patterns the brain sees as a reward.

It's very similar to what tiktok does. In fact some people even accused tiktok of being similar to slots.

agree with you, TikTok is similar to slot machines in terms of neurological stimulation, but the difference is that TikTok does not take money from you… while gambling does.

Although the idea seems appealing its main problem is that it is stimulating and exhausting, and potentially addictive.

Therefore, even if the idea gains popularity, I think most governments will ban it because it can be addictive especially for minors. Even short content is considered “addictive” according to European Union reports.

[OsaiEmma]

A few questions for the community:

Does this feel like a genuinely new gaming format?
Would you play something like this instead of traditional crash games?
What do you think would be the biggest challenge for a concept like this?
Is this innovation, or simply a new interface built on existing mechanics?

Looking for honest feedback and criticism.

I love the innovation. I do tend to love new ideas and concepts, and this is one.

Anyways, the answer to your questions are.

1) Yes. As far as I'm concerned, I've not seen such before.

2) I would play, but I don't prefer it to the traditional games.

3) Scaling: I think it would be difficult to scale cause it will need some getting used to from the users. A lot of bettors will not be necessarily used to this kind of betting. Yes, the social media have already introduced such interface, and a lot of us are already used to swiping to see more content, but using it in this instance will need some getting used to.

4) I honestly think it's innovative.

Criticism and suggestions:

1) Not popular games. Yes, I know you're trying to be innovative, and it is innovative, but I personally would prefer some orthodox games included, things like dice, slot, even short virtual games like, football, basketball, car race, horse race etc, added to the mix.

2) Navigation/UX: Unlike traditional short reels in social media platforms, this have to do with you actively participating, users can't navigate to their favorite events. If their could be a category Navigation bar, or a search bar to help users easily navigate to their favorite event, that will improve user's experience.

And finally a Question:

The different scenarios is a very creative idea, I think it makes a lot of sense, and I assume once a particular short event is finished it automatically gets to the next, right? If yes, will that short or reel's event be gone, or will it restart but with a different outcome?

That's all I have to say on this.

[junder]

Social media algorithm are even more sketchy, it's like they will starts showing us how we feel without we even search anything related to it but talked to someone about the current situation or a call or text, but no one can explain how that happens.

It's true that what you're saying is something I've experienced and apart from you, I'm sure other people have experienced the same thing you're saying. This sometimes becomes a question for myself with confusion why social media knows what I'm thinking, it's really strange but real.
And the other problem is that when I see gambling ads and make a statement to hide these gambling ads it doesn't work at all, so it's weird with this one too.

[boyptc]

The first game I've thought of it is about crash since it doesn't really require a lot of time so it suits to the video format.

I think that a point of time will come that the gambling industry or the casino themselves will reinvent the games like with this idea.

Going with the VR and feeling that you're inside the casino, to this type of video game format as short as they are. Interesting but right now, it needs more study IMO.

It has been years that VR is trying to penetrate in the gambling industry. But up until now, no solid site has offered such experience yet. I believe they are encountered by some bottlenecks such as the gadget to be used, and of course, the popularity of this kind of gambling site. But more than likely, it is the price that you need to pay to experience such. So once the public can afford this, I believe, it can easily go mainstream.

Yes, once there's a good feed back from the public I think that it's possible for these upgrades or changes to be adopted.

But as we can see, the public is mostly happy with what we have. Yet once these changes become a norm and many of these casinos have got these type of games.

It will somehow be a norm if it really becomes a trend. And with that, the casinos are being careful with it. As they say, 'no need to change the system if it's not broken'.

[junder]

With the current casino that has a way of working that is still most likely the same, in my opinion, it has made many people comfortable, especially those who really like gambling, have felt helped by online gambling. But if there are more updates with the aim of making it easier for players to play and with the considerations made this can have a good impact on the casino because there are likely to be more and more requesters.

[Agbe]

Looking for honest feedback and criticism.

Gamblers only follow what the casino presented to them and if casinos do it in that way, we will still follow up. But the chatting or  interactive section in the casino must be separated because if they are in one place like TikTok or X platforms, things will be messy and will not be in order. It is not an innovation but just a feature in the already existing interface.

[POPOLUV]

I think not everyone knows how to play all the game, even though they are simple. That might cause inconvenience when player swipe games and search for game he is familiar with. Dont know how is your experience with short video on social media, but I usually swipe a lot of videos until I find something interesting. Wont the same happens when gambler will be swiping casino games? Dont you think he will get tired faster or will play 1 game only and keep on swiping for several minutes until he finds preferred game again? Casino need players who play non-stop, instead of those who play and make a pause.

You are definitely correct about this because most gamblers has their own favourite games to stake on as an individual, even when some of games might look so simple, those games can only look simple to those gamblers that are convenient with it, why for me, i only deal on sports betting because i don't risk my money on what i don't have knowledge about, like wise casino that swipe off your money within a short period of time, so casino games is only for those that has the eyes to stake on, that will find casino so interesting to stake on, instead of preferring sports betting.

[aioc]

Most gambling products today look remarkably similar.

That's because casinos are successful in attracting players with these games, and why fix when it's not broken

We've been exploring a different idea.

Instead of selecting games from a casino lobby, players swipe through a feed of short interactive events, similar to TikTok, Reels, or Shorts.

We're calling this concept "Swipe-to-Bet" (the idea behind Swiply).
The goal isn't necessarily to reinvent gambling mechanics.

If you're getting positive feedback based on your feasibility study, then go for it, you'll really never know until you launch it, but like all the others here, I want a traditional one, but I'm ok for some minor change as long as it will not take out the fun side of it.

[Achalugo BTC]

You are definitely correct about this because most gamblers has their own favourite games to stake on as an individual, even when some of games might look so simple, those games can only look simple to those gamblers that are convenient with it, why for me, i only deal on sports betting because i don't risk my money on what i don't have knowledge about, like wise casino that swipe off your money within a short period of time, so casino games is only for those that has the eyes to stake on, that will find casino so interesting to stake on, instead of preferring sports betting.

Its essential for one to bet with what they have knowledge about than to bet on a game because they see their friends profiting from it and that's not a smart choice for one to make. But, sticking to what one has an idea for it helps one to play the game as it ought to be, which they are to gamble within their budget and walk away from it when necessary, that way helps them to avoid stress and constant losses, as they are also protecting their bankroll and their emotions including their relationships.