Is player protection fair to casinos or too much responsibility?

[hedgeh0g]

Just wondering, because this is a very different view of gambling compared to places where casinos mostly leave players on their own.

Im wondering if this player protection works in the Philippines. Likely not, as those authorities might let those gamblers keep playing and if they losing big money their likely wanted it to happen. Most of the casinos in PH are privately owned and I never heard such news that there were stoppage happened prior to this rules of players protection.

But this rule if followed is likely a good one and I admire owners or management that stepped up to fully stop anyone who are into gambling so badly.

Few casino owners actually want to implement such protection because they're interested in making money, no matter how much they try to tell you otherwise. But of course, there are more conscientious ones who understand the importance of protecting players from huge losses during games and similar situations, as players can sometimes gamble with their last money and end up starving, for example. Of course, this responsibility lies primarily with the player, because they think for themselves and should understand the risks they're taking, although I often see players only begin to consider their actions after a loss. A casino simply provides a service, and if it decides to take care of players in certain cases, it's certainly a good gesture, and such casinos deserve respect, at least from me.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

To know whether such players protection policy is fair to the casino or not, you must have to first find out whether it's what they already agree to or it's something that was imposed on them. In such country where regurgitation is tight like this, the casino is already aware what the protection policy looks like and they agreed to it, so you can not actually say it's unfair to them. In such a country, the responsibility of the casino is simple, if maybe they are demanded to stop any customer that have exceeded a certain amount, then they can just set that target for every customers and once the person spend such amounts, they won't be allowed to play again.

[KiaKia]

I believe that it's part of the responsibility that they accepted during the time of regulation. But the fact is that, most casinos don't abide to the law and they allow gamblers to gamble recklessly because they want to make more money.

I believe that majority of gamblers don't know that they can sue a casino for this reason if not, some would have done it. Sometimes, the body in charge of monitoring the casinos that they abide to the strict regulations are only after their pockets. If the casino gives them fat envelopes, everything is going smoothly.

It is so unfair, all these people are adults not underage children, this type of protection should be for kids and youth at a certain age, a grown ass man shouldn't be relying on someone else to protect them when they stupidly throw their money away.

This is very unfair, because if we turn the whole thing around the gamblers wouldn't want to let go either, let's say a protection is on for a gambler and they have reached their limit and yet they choose to go one more try and they hit the jackpot.

The casino also have the right to reject the win simply because they are in control of baby sitting their grown asses, it's ridiculous as f**k, casinos are run by humans and gamblers are humans too, we all have that greed in us.

[Somegory]

I don't think that I will ever see such plays out in front of me, its true that this is available in some online casinos ToS but I've never triggered it and I don't think I will ever be in such situation because I risks so small money, it's not something to be worried about honestly.

Most of the times I don't even gamble, I prefer to watch movies for fun or grab my gamepad and play some Cyberpunk 2077 for few hours, normally gambling shouldn't be a do or die affair.

Do it only when you feel like, I pity people who still want to make all their money from gambling, they are the ones who always end up struggling in the end, gambling problem is going to be far from my kind.

[Zadicar]

Just wondering, because this is a very different view of gambling compared to places where casinos mostly leave players on their own.

Im wondering if this player protection works in the Philippines. Likely not, as those authorities might let those gamblers keep playing and if they losing big money their likely wanted it to happen. Most of the casinos in PH are privately owned and I never heard such news that there were stoppage happened prior to this rules of players protection.

But this rule if followed is likely a good one and I admire owners or management that stepped up to fully stop anyone who are into gambling so badly.

Few casino owners actually want to implement such protection because they're interested in making money, no matter how much they try to tell you otherwise. But of course, there are more conscientious ones who understand the importance of protecting players from huge losses during games and similar situations, as players can sometimes gamble with their last money and end up starving, for example. Of course, this responsibility lies primarily with the player, because they think for themselves and should understand the risks they're taking, although I often see players only begin to consider their actions after a loss. A casino simply provides a service, and if it decides to take care of players in certain cases, it's certainly a good gesture, and such casinos deserve respect, at least from me.

And that would be that everything depending on the owner or management itself whether they would really be minding or giving out importance and understand the true purpose of such limits or regulation or they wouldnt rreally be that going along with that since they are thinking on making even more money just to make it let it slip and wont really be applying out such limits? Just like you've said that if they are really that mindful about gamblers situation and status then they would really be applying it out and of course they would be doing it to avoid penalties or problems considering that you are running a business then it would be normal that there's something that you do need up to follow. If you wont then you do know on what are the potential issues or problems that you might be able to experience.

[bakasabo]

It is so unfair, all these people are adults not underage children, this type of protection should be for kids and youth at a certain age, a grown ass man shouldn't be relying on someone else to protect them when they stupidly throw their money away.

This is very unfair, because if we turn the whole thing around the gamblers wouldn't want to let go either, let's say a protection is on for a gambler and they have reached their limit and yet they choose to go one more try and they hit the jackpot.

The casino also have the right to reject the win simply because they are in control of baby sitting their grown asses, it's ridiculous as f**k, casinos are run by humans and gamblers are humans too, we all have that greed in us.

On the other hand, "grown ass man" is exactly the one who require playing protection because such "grown ass man" think that as he is an adult, he can do whatever he want now, when he want and as long as he want. The more older is the person, the more that person think he knows everything, he is more experienced than others, and as well as always know when to stop. Then those "experienced inf life adults" turn addicted without even spotting there is a problem.

As a problem here I see that is hard to look after each gambler and spot pattern when someone is still gambling for fun or to earn, or person is already in trouble and trying to win back his lost money. Or that person is in a bad mood or desperate already, and he is simply betting and watching how he is loosing money.

[TheUltraElite]

I still think the responsibility is on the gambler to restrict their money and hours of play and not the casino. The casino did not ask the person to come and play but the player went there to play at their own free will.

Some countries might have rules that are similar to this in lines of regulation and the casino has to prevent such problems. Still the responsibility lies on the head of the player and not the casino is what I feel.

Self-exclusion from a specific sites is one thing they are already doing.

[Doan9269]

Permit me to see this that because you know are not tied to the responsibility of ensuring gamblers responsible gambling, we choose to decide how we gamble and they have no any reason to why they should deny us access to gambling or playing any game of our choice, we know what is good for us to do and the ones we should avoid for our own benefits, that is why everyone will face the consequences to every option they have taken in gambling except the threat to maintain order and Gamble responsibly.

[Agbe]

I don't know if casinos does that and even if they do, it would be few. A large number of casinos allowed gamblers to use their system the way they want and I believed that should be a responsibility of the casinos. Casinos have to protect their client by excess spending in the casino with the staying long as well. Casinos make money from different gamblers and not only from one gambler. Therefore they have to create a limit for addicted gamblers.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

It’s something that must be implemented in any country with a halfway decent regulatory body. If it involves a cost, it’s just like any other cost: they end up passing it on to the end consumer in order to keep the business afloat. If you give casinos free rein without laws or oversight, they end up ruining lives. You only have to look at the links between the mafia and casinos in the US. In modern, advanced countries, consumer protection measures must be put in place.

[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

There's no way the casino can know if the way we are gambling is responsible or not, all they see is that everyone is playing an as long as they are abiding by the rules, they may not be any reason to flag anyone's account for irresponsible gambling, every Gambler should be responsible for what they are doing, this is why we must be able to face the consequences to every action will take in gambling, because the casino cannot know if any step will take is to our favor or not.

[Lida93]

Just wondering, because this is a very different view of gambling compared to places where casinos mostly leave players on their own.

Players' protection rights are something that is or should be part of the agreement before a casino gains a license from a country, but how they handle issues and take them seriously depends on how the country agent in charge of handling such issues takes them seriously.

Yea, I think that's how it actually works and that's why you may wonder why same casino gambling platform taking very seriously the players protection right policy in region A but not really extending exactly seriousness with region B. It all comes down to how the country's agency handed with these responsibilities of checkmating gambling platforms operating in the jurisdiction are taking up their duties, that's same way the gambling platforms responds too but there are gamblers who really don't know about this.

[Questat]

There's no way the casino can know if the way we are gambling is responsible or not, all they see is that everyone is playing an as long as they are abiding by the rules, they may not be any reason to flag anyone's account for irresponsible gambling, every Gambler should be responsible for what they are doing, this is why we must be able to face the consequences to every action will take in gambling, because the casino cannot know if any step will take is to our favor or not.

If that is how we see it, then why are regulators trying to penalize casinos for that matter?

I am sure you know regulators will not act, especially penalize a casino without basis, right, so the logic you are saying is wrong based on the attached news.

It is very normal to just let us gamble because after all, it is our money, our responsibility, and our right to gamble with it, but rules or laws are there for a reason, and it is not like they can just invent something to make a casino suffer.

[Sanitough]

If that is how we see it, then why are regulators trying to penalize casinos for that matter?

I am sure you know regulators will not act, especially penalize a casino without basis, right, so the logic you are saying is wrong based on the attached news.

Regulators know because they are the ones who set the rules for casinos to comply with, and the basis of the penalties is just what is written in the rules, if you violate it then you pay for the consequences. Good if it is just a monetary penalty, worse if it is closure or a cease and desist order.

It is very normal to just let us gamble because after all, it is our money, our responsibility, and our right to gamble with it, but rules or laws are there for a reason, and it is not like they can just invent something to make a casino suffer.

For many casinos, it is not really a thing since they are not regulated by strict regulators, those Costa Rica and Curacao gaming licenses are mostly just on paper, but regulators do not really look into it. But gamblers still do not complain about it, they even like it because if the casino is not strict, they can gamble even without KYC.

[CryptSafe]

There's no way the casino can know if the way we are gambling is responsible or not, all they see is that everyone is playing an as long as they are abiding by the rules, they may not be any reason to flag anyone's account for irresponsible gambling, every Gambler should be responsible for what they are doing, this is why we must be able to face the consequences to every action will take in gambling, because the casino cannot know if any step will take is to our favor or not.

Casinos do know when one is gambling way too high if not, how do they know when one is cheating the system, how do they know multiple accounts ? How do they study patterns to know what a player is up to?  This is because they already have a mechanism in place to be able to detect such act from player's so whenever a player is betting way too high the mechanism is being triggered for them to check but even at then they do not do anything because it is their business and they want to make more profit because they know the player might likely lose half of the money to betting so they could make more money. So do not expect the casino to stop you from playing or depositing high amount of money, they would never do that as they wantore financial flows for their system.

[shawonngp]

Everyone can make their own decisions in gambling, and whether you will gamble responsibly or gamble recklessly will depend on you. If someone gambles aggressively and loses big, he has to take the responsibility. Here, I don't think casino companies can take the responsibility of taking steps to stop someone from gambling addiction or reckless gambling, because whether we win big or lose big, it is through our sole decision. But I don't think casino platforms will take this step to stop reckless gambling, as it will reduce their profits. Because if they set a stop limit.

[Versatile_choice]

Few casino owners actually want to implement such protection because they're interested in making money, no matter how much they try to tell you otherwise. But of course, there are more conscientious ones who understand the importance of protecting players from huge losses during games and similar situations, as players can sometimes gamble with their last money and end up starving, for example. Of course, this responsibility lies primarily with the player, because they think for themselves and should understand the risks they're taking, although I often see players only begin to consider their actions after a loss. A casino simply provides a service, and if it decides to take care of players in certain cases, it's certainly a good gesture, and such casinos deserve respect, at least from me.

you hardly see such casino, majority of the casinos are only interested in making money, they assume that everyone is gambling responsibly/ betting with what they can afford. not knowing that some gamblers don't read through the pros and cons of Thier casino. But I can't blame the casino in this case but the gambler, for not reading through the pros and cons before joining the casinon, I know that there are people who are not educated but even as that they can also reach out Thier friends who knows how to read I'm sure they will explain to them.

[nimogsm]

I don't think that I will ever see such plays out in front of me, its true that this is available in some online casinos ToS but I've never triggered it and I don't think I will ever be in such situation because I risks so small money, it's not something to be worried about honestly.

Most of the times I don't even gamble, I prefer to watch movies for fun or grab my gamepad and play some Cyberpunk 2077 for few hours, normally gambling shouldn't be a do or die affair.

Do it only when you feel like, I pity people who still want to make all their money from gambling, they are the ones who always end up struggling in the end, gambling problem is going to be far from my kind.

And that's absolutely the right approach. I have the same view on gambling. I need a reason, like the World Cup, for example. I'm on vacation soon, and I'll watch more games and sometimes bet on the teams I'm interested in. The amounts won't be huge exactly what I'm willing to lose. And if I manage to win a little, it's just a nice bonus. I don't have any goal of getting rich through betting; I don't see the point.

[Findingnemo]

Everyone can make their own decisions in gambling, and whether you will gamble responsibly or gamble recklessly will depend on you. If someone gambles aggressively and loses big, he has to take the responsibility. Here, I don't think casino companies can take the responsibility of taking steps to stop someone from gambling addiction or reckless gambling, because whether we win big or lose big, it is through our sole decision. But I don't think casino platforms will take this step to stop reckless gambling, as it will reduce their profits. Because if they set a stop limit.

They can't set a limit for someone to wager as well, and if they really want then the regulators has to push themselves into doing it, like have a cap amount to wager in a particular casino or all the casino combined but again the universal figure won't work for something like gambling where there are few bucks involves and also millions of dollars involved in the same or similar bet in the same night.

[Dunamisx]

I can't be a casino operator and decided to take it on myself I'm back on players protection in this manner, this is not because I wanted gamblast to be taken risk and playing irresponsibly on my platform, but I can't be held responsible for every of their actions taken, to gamble is a decision everyone is taken and they have to know what is right for them to do and not until you can see no restrict them of certain features with unjustified reasons.