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July 02, 2026, 10:28:08 PM
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Bottom comparison of cycle is best here. It is no accident that each following bottom is higher than previous one. It is actual change in structure, in who's involved in the market. 2018 was almost all regular investors. But 2022 wasnt anywhere near as filled with big companies, with some big company players. But ETF inflows, the holdings of governments and corporate treasury that did not exist in the past cycles are here today. That puts different spin on it.

Increase in stablecoin dominance is good sign to keep an eye on but it is double-sided one. Yes, it does show capital moving to sidelines, but so does stablecoin capital sitting in wait. $60k overpriced argument doesnt take into account those differences, and that is where applying 2018 drop percentages to current market structure breaks down. Market changed completely between cycles.
Eventually that stablecoin market will enter the best coin as well, because according to my understanding, many exchanges are giving fixed returns on staking and locking the stablecoins, that's why the dominance is increasing as people are locking them for making stable return. This is going to increase because of the Clarity act. So I am sure the dominance of the stablecoin market will at least increase by 2x.

I think a time will come even the bigger tracking platforms like coingecko and coinmarketcap have to remove stablecoins from the dominance, because this way the dominance of btc would be a lot less. Even if they will not do it, we need to remove it from our charts manually, we can easily set a formula using ChatGPT and can exclude all the stablecoin dominance out of the map.

Comparing prices is an old-fashioned way and when we compare them we also have to compare the coins in circulation, the demand and fud created in that era so that way we can understand the momentum correctly.

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July 03, 2026, 03:18:33 AM
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I think a time will come even the bigger tracking platforms like coingecko and coinmarketcap have to remove stablecoins from the dominance, because this way the dominance of btc would be a lot less. Even if they will not do it, we need to remove it from our charts manually, we can easily set a formula using ChatGPT and can exclude all the stablecoin dominance out of the map.
Stable coins will not be removed from the sites like coinmarketcap.com, coingecko.com and their indicators like dominance. If you want, you can find something for that purposes on TradingView like years ago, there were no index for altcoin marketcap, altcoin marketcap without Ethereum and so on.

Stable coins are still very important parts of cryptocurrency industry and it's not logic to remove them because the cryptocurrency community need to have information about stable coins as well as how many percent stable coins contribute in market cap of this market.

Anything bad happens with big stable coin companies like Tether or Circle will cause a lot of chaos in cryptocurrency market. It's about very wide picture while individually we all are responsible with our own money and a reminder is stable coins are not good for money storage in long term. There are risks like depegs, fund freeze and more.

 
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July 03, 2026, 05:51:37 AM
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Stablecoins are bullish? You do realize that the US dollar is losing value every day? Right? Do you want to buy USDT and wait for it to hit the moon? Grin
Why are you so butthurt about the Bitcoin price? Just enjoy the bear market and keep DCAing and accumulating BTC. Also why are you so butthurt about what the "permabulls" are saying? I just don't pay attention to all the "experts" and "crypto gurus" on social media. They are just farming views and clicks with sensationalist content, that has little to no substance. One part of them is "permabulls", the other part is "doom and gloom prophets". Both of them are talking BS.

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Today at 03:21:12 AM
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Anything bad happens with big stable coin companies like Tether or Circle will cause a lot of chaos in cryptocurrency market. It's about very wide picture while individually we all are responsible with our own money and a reminder is stable coins are not good for money storage in long term. There are risks like depegs, fund freeze and more.
I think you did not understand what I meant.

Well bro, I did not mean to exclude stablecoins for no reason. The dominance of BTC is always higher in reality when we exclude stablecoins, but you are also right that they are important. Because before, like you said, traders demanded scripts, and we have so many that we can use on TradingView easily.

Now they have become important because before, liquidity could be flowing from BTC to alts, and we did not have to check where else in the crypto industry it was flowing. Now, with the increasing market cap of stablecoins like USDT and USDC, we can measure it and analyze the flow more easily.

It is really helpful while trading on the mid term timeframe.

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Today at 04:27:42 AM
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Stablecoins are bullish? You do realize that the US dollar is losing value every day? Right? Do you want to buy USDT and wait for it to hit the moon? Grin
It's funny how people can be bullish toward something that guaranteed to lose its value as the day goes by, doesn't make a single sense to me.

In the worst scenario where Bitcoin is going down because apparently the bear market is here as OP implied, USD is still going down alongside it because money is being printed every year.

OP need to know that a chart which can track yearly money total supply exist, maybe by then he will change his mind.

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Today at 11:52:11 AM
Last edit: Today at 08:35:46 PM by BluebloodCXVI
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I’m not interested in picking sides this early. If it happens to be that we’re heading into a deeper bear phase then the price will show it and if we’re not, then that will also be obvious too.

I would rather react to what is happening in the market at the current time than getting myself intertwined into some bullish or bearish narrative. Sometimes the market rarely plays out the way we expect even though it might give us clues to work with but that doesn’t always guarantee the same outcomes in every cycle.



It's funny how people can be bullish toward something that guaranteed to lose its value as the day goes by, doesn't make a single sense to me.

In the worst scenario where Bitcoin is going down because apparently the bear market is here as OP implied, USD is still going down alongside it because money is being printed every year.

OP need to know that a chart which can track yearly money total supply exist, maybe by then he will change his mind.

Perhaps you’re right about the fact that dollar can lose value over time due to inflation but I don’t think people who hold cash do so because they expect it to outperform investments or for it to grow in value no. They hold it because it is more stable and can be useful for day to day spending.

Certainly the fixed supply of bitcoin is perhaps its greatest strength but that doesn’t make it a better asset in every situation (emphasis on “every situation”) because it’s price still depends on demand and which is why it can swing around so wildly at any time.

For someone who is looking to preserve their wealth over the long run, bitcoin is certainly best suited for them. But for someone who is looking for stability and liquidity in the short term, then cash is their best bet.



Eventually that stablecoin market will enter the best coin as well, because according to my understanding, many exchanges are giving fixed returns on staking and locking the stablecoins, that's why the dominance is increasing as people are locking them for making stable return. This is going to increase because of the Clarity act. So I am sure the dominance of the stablecoin market will at least increase by 2x.

I think a time will come even the bigger tracking platforms like coingecko and coinmarketcap have to remove stablecoins from the dominance, because this way the dominance of btc would be a lot less. Even if they will not do it, we need to remove it from our charts manually, we can easily set a formula using ChatGPT and can exclude all the stablecoin dominance out of the map.

Comparing prices is an old-fashioned way and when we compare them we also have to compare the coins in circulation, the demand and fud created in that era so that way we can understand the momentum correctly.

I don’t see why stable coins should be removed from the dominance chart. I mean! they are still part of the crypto market too even though they serve different purposes. If the current metric isn’t showing the full picture of the crypto market, then it would make more sense to just create a separate BTC dominance chart that excludes stable coins rather than trying to change the original one.

Let me also point out the fact that a higher stable coin dominance does not always mean that fresh money is coming into crypto. It can just easily mean that a bunch of people have sold their BTC or their alt coins and have converted it to stables coins waiting for a better opportunity to buy back in. Without knowing where the increase is coming from, a rise in stable coin dominance alone can be misleading IMO and it doesn’t tell you why it happened.

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Today at 01:41:30 PM
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The bull is not permanent again, the market has been printing red since this year before it finally go below $60k last month/this month, I'm also believing that Bitcoin is going to go down to around $50k and that could be this month or next, surprisingly Bitcoin is above $60k again, I was even thinking we will be around $55k already by now but price just knows how to do its thing.

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