CryptoYar - Merit Source Application

[examplens]

You participated in the pizza contest, and if you look closely, it seems that all the pizzas that came from these three accounts were made in the same kitchen.
Perhaps the justification is that the whole of Pakistan uses the same IP address, but what is the probability that the whole of Pakistan has the same bowls, paper...

So, for example, CryptoYar and Rustam Meraj use the same specific paper to write their name
Rustam Meraj:

source: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=343230.msg2134459#msg2134459
(On Altcoinstalks, CryptoYar and Publictalk792 participate with the same pizza, while Rustam Meraj reports a different one compared to btt)

CryptoYar

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5583351.msg66804676#msg66804676

Next, this white vessel and the decoration it has around the rim. They look identical to me
CryptoYar


vs
Publictalk792

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5583351.msg66805543#msg66805543

This saucepan is also identical for those two users
https://i.bitlist.co/BbqaawsRc6OH.jpg Publictalk792
https://i.bitlist.co/aKa68l7NP62N.jpg Rustam Meraj


There are too many coincidences between accounts that have been connected as alts from before. I see some more similarities, but not so obvious, so I wouldn't speculate.
Given that you took the first prize, this probably deserves a more detailed investigation

[JollyGood]

This is an important matter also for the Bitcoin Pizza Day Contest because:
- You (CryptoYar) voted: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5585847.msg66903104#msg66903104
- Rustam Meraj voted: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5585847.msg66865001#msg66865001
- Publictalk792 voted: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5585847.msg66899363#msg66899363

That would mean you have cheated, and since you won the first prize, $1,500, the situation is quite serious, because in this case you would have to be disqualified and return the prize.

I would like to know your current stance on the matter of the $1500. Do you believe you are entitled to it on the basis of the above post?

I did not close the thread because I have nothing to hide if I wanted to close I would have closed it much earlier even before you said it, but since I did not close. I let the users investigate whatever they want and bring up, and I will be ready to defend.

You have given the impression that you will not close it therefore as long as the thread remains open it allows us to scrutinise everything you post.

What are your views on my question: after everything that has been written about you, do you believe you will become a merit source?

[Ale88]

I'm sorry for the cross-posting from the other forum, but how do you explain posts like this one:
The exhaustive investigation to which you refer has already been carried out, resulting in 59 pages of logs that leave no room for doubt.

And this one:
Pakistan has a population of 256 million, and you're telling me that your ISP has assigned the same IP address to three users of this forum, and has used that same IP for about eleven months?
You're telling me that TODAY when COINCIDENTALLY that IP is no longer the same for those three users?

Oh come on dear!

If they have evidences so why they locked my thread. I can explain everything. But they just locked my thread and don't give the chance to explain.

Ok, you can explain here then, please, go ahead.
Because what they said is very clear so somebody here is lying, either you or them.

That would mean you have cheated, and since you won the first prize, $1,500, the situation is quite serious, because in this case you would have to be disqualified and return the prize.

Means you are saying I have 51 votes and all are my alts.

That is absolutely not what I said and you know it. I was talking about these 3 accounts: CryptoYar, Rustam Meraj and Publictalk792.
So don't try to put in my mouth words I've never said. If you used multiple accounts it doesn't matter if you received 1, 10 or 100 votes, that is simply against the forum's rules.

This is an important matter also for the Bitcoin Pizza Day Contest because:
- You (CryptoYar) voted: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5585847.msg66903104#msg66903104
- Rustam Meraj voted: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5585847.msg66865001#msg66865001
- Publictalk792 voted: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5585847.msg66899363#msg66899363

That would mean you have cheated, and since you won the first prize, $1,500, the situation is quite serious, because in this case you would have to be disqualified and return the prize.

I would like to know your current stance on the matter of the $1500. Do you believe you are entitled to it on the basis of the above post?

Why should I get the $1,500? In this case the prize would go to abhiseshakana, then the second to Sawera2255@, and fillippone would get the third prize.
And the 6th prize should be split between whoever made pizzas #24 and #67 because they both received 24 votes.
Spots #5 (myself) and #6 (ndutndut) would move one place up but there would be no prize change since it was all the same for positions #4, 5 and 6.

Next, this white vessel and the decoration it has around the rim. They look identical to me
CryptoYar


vs
Publictalk792

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5583351.msg66805543#msg66805543

Good catch! This is definitely the same plate, it can't be a coincidence:

[Don Pedro Dinero]

That would mean you have cheated, and since you won the first prize, $1,500, the situation is quite serious, because in this case you would have to be disqualified and return the prize.

I can see red tags coming.

That is absolutely not what I said and you know it. I was talking about these 3 accounts: CryptoYar, Rustam Meraj and Publictalk792.
So don't try to put in my mouth words I've never said. If you used multiple accounts it doesn't matter if you received 1, 10 or 100 votes, that is simply against the forum's rules.

If you scroll back through this thread, you’ll see that he did the same thing to me. His defence is based on straw man arguments; he distorts what other people say and then appears to refute it.

[Qunenin]

That would mean you have cheated, and since you won the first prize, $1,500, the situation is quite serious, because in this case you would have to be disqualified and return the prize.

I can see red tags coming.

Before tagging these accounts, show me rules where we can link two accounts based on plates design ?

[Ale88]

That would mean you have cheated, and since you won the first prize, $1,500, the situation is quite serious, because in this case you would have to be disqualified and return the prize.

I can see red tags coming.

Before tagging these accounts, show me rules where we can link two accounts based on plates design ?

The plates are just a further proof. Are we supposed to believe it's just a coincidence that two (three) users from Pakistan took part at the pizza contest using the same IP, same plates, and same paper? What are the odds?

Also, you're leaving out the fact that all the users used exactly the same IP for eleven months, and the very same day they were called out, the IP all of a sudden were different. Again, what are the odds?

[noormcs5]

Why should I get the $1,500? In this case the prize would go to abhiseshakana, then the second to Sawera2255@, and fillippone would get the third prize.

Only if CryptoYar returns that money (if he got it), which I don't think he will do . Even if he earns 50$ (min) per week from the signature campaign (I haven't checked how much he actually earns), it is the earnings of 30 full weeks (1500/50= 30).
And since this tag is not of a spammer but a scammer, I don't think it will get neutral even if somehow he agrees to return the money.

[stompix]

You participated in the pizza contest, and if you look closely, it seems that all the pizzas that came from these three accounts were made in the same kitchen.

FML!
You have got to be kidding me!
I want to hear a really good explanation for this because if even this type of contest has been tarnished, there is basically nothing left but to just burn down the place

[PrivacyG]

FML!
You have got to be kidding me!
I want to hear a really good explanation for this because if even this type of contest has been tarnished, there is basically nothing left but to just burn down the place

Seriously!  What in the World is going on, the last thing I would have expected today is to read about multiple accounts linked together based on PIZZA CONTEST ENTRIES?  Account farmers having the audacity to say they will come with even more accounts soon, loan defaulters all around, people destroying their accounts for a meal worth of Dollars, this one coming with a merit source application, what is this!

[Free Market Capitalist]

FML!
You have got to be kidding me!
I want to hear a really good explanation for this because if even this type of contest has been tarnished, there is basically nothing left but to just burn down the place

Seriously!  What in the World is going on, the last thing I would have expected today is to read about multiple accounts linked together based on PIZZA CONTEST ENTRIES?  Account farmers having the audacity to say they will come with even more accounts soon, loan defaulters all around, people destroying their accounts for a meal worth of Dollars, this one coming with a merit source application, what is this!

Well, that doesn't surprise me at all. If people cheat for campaigns averaging $70 weekly, aren't they going to cheat for a single $1,500 prize? I believe the opposite is true: the typical cheater who has lots of undeclared alt accounts, joins the same campaigns, exchanges merits between those alts, etc.—of course he’ll break whatever rules it takes to win those prizes.

[Rhow]

I can see red tags coming.

Before tagging these accounts, show me rules where we can link two accounts based on plates design ?

Common sense, he made a mistake. So tell me, when a user accidentally posts the Bitcoin address of his alternate account while logged into his other account and participates in the campaign, why is he linked to two accounts? Is there a specific rule for this? Probably not. It's common sense that this is also proof that he has an alternate account. He probably made a mistake too.

Maybe the design of the plate is a coincidence, but can all the other things that @Ale88 mentioned be a coincidence together?

The plates are just a further proof. Are we supposed to believe it's just a coincidence that two (three) users from Pakistan took part at the pizza contest using the same IP, same plates, and same paper? What are the odds?

Also, you're leaving out the fact that all the users used exactly the same IP for eleven months, and the very same day they were called out, the IP all of a sudden were different. Again, what are the odds?

[lovesmayfamilis]

Maybe the design of the plate is a coincidence, but can all the other things that @Ale88 mentioned be a coincidence together?

The plates are just a further proof. Are we supposed to believe it's just a coincidence that two (three) users from Pakistan took part at the pizza contest using the same IP, same plates, and same paper? What are the odds?

Also, you're leaving out the fact that all the users used exactly the same IP for eleven months, and the very same day they were called out, the IP all of a sudden were different. Again, what are the odds?

To prove a match on the plates, he would have to prove the existence of a store where they are sold in large quantities, in order to accept the fact that everyone in Pakistan has such plates.🤭

[CryptoYar]

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It looks like both pieces have similar features, but I am honestly surprised if this is considered solid evidence. It feels like this was kept hidden simply because it does not really prove anything but speculation

Regarding vessel/plates these are commonly used in Pakistani homes. I am not saying all 250 million people of Pakistan used the same. But having similar features in common but this not the same plate please look again

Here is the full photo of the utensils which I use to cook Pizza and the plate for a clearer and complete comparison. And also check the bowl and plates of Publictalk792. These are different.




Regarding writing paper this is from my school work book these are given by government to school kids and of course all the kids going to government school will get same work books.

Anyway that thread on Altcointalk was closed and I couldn’t see any evidence there it’s good that you bring it here. At least I can know what are those allegations.

You are connecting me to not one but two accounts I do not know why Publictalk792 and Rustam Meraj not coming forward to defend themselves. I have sent pm to both but did not get reply I do not know if Publictalk792 and Rustam Meraj is same person and they don’t to defend here or on Altcointalk.

But I’m not… so I will be defending. Thank you.
 
I will be replying to other comments too.



@Ale88 please check the full plate you checking the borders and those highlighted patterns are the actual patterns on plate not imperfections

[libert19]

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You are connecting me to not one but two accounts I do not know why Publictalk792 and Rustam Meraj not coming forward to defend themselves. I have sent pm to both but did not get reply I do not know if Publictalk792 and Rustam Meraj is same person and they don’t to defend here or on Altcointalk.

But I’m not… so I will be defending. Thank you.

Lol, I don't know man, you saying this just makes me more confirmed that you are their alt lmao. I don't say, my assumption is right tho.

[JollyGood]

I had already tagged one of the associated accounts a long time ago for an unrelated matter and I am on the verge of tagging this CryptoYar account too.

The desperation on your part in trying to save the accounts from getting tags is understandable. Until or unless you are removed from campaigns, you will continue to protest your innocence.

Furthermore, I expect that even if it were to happen you would (at least for a short period) still use the connected accounts in order to seek a reprieve but would eventually give up and stop using these accounts. The question then arises, how many accounts are you operating?

It looks like both pieces have similar features, but I am honestly surprised if this is considered solid evidence. It feels like this was kept hidden simply because it does not really prove anything but speculation

Regarding vessel/plates these are commonly used in Pakistani homes. I am not saying all 250 million people of Pakistan used the same. But having similar features in common but this not the same plate please look again

[katanic97]

It looks like everyone in Pakistan has the same ip addresses, the same dishes, the same notebooks/papers. What's next that is the same, fingerprints? It's hard to believe that someone would be able to believe such a story. I don't know how this is not enough evidence from what examplens presented... It all started from a merit source application and eventually came to this. Truly unbelievable.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

Before tagging these accounts, show me rules where we can link two accounts based on plates design ?

It seems I'll have to teach you some reading comprehension lessons first.

But seeing that you write nonsense like this, your proper place is in my ignore list.

No, i have earned hundreds of merits and many more in all these years, thats not an issue.

Airdropped merit does not really count as earned tbh.

Your reply was so low value that was deleted.

It looks like everyone in Pakistan has the same ip addresses, the same dishes, the same notebooks/papers. What's next that is the same, fingerprints? It's hard to believe that someone would be able to believe such a story. I don't know how this is not enough evidence from what examplens presented... It all started from a merit source application and eventually came to this. Truly unbelievable.

I think this is just a variation on something we’ve seen many times in the reputation section: that some people who start threads there in a seemingly honest way, what they do is expose themselves, prompt an investigation into them and end up end up being red-tagged.

[Rikafip]

I want to hear a really good explanation for this because if even this type of contest has been tarnished, there is basically nothing left but to just burn down the place

There were cheating attempts in the pizza contest from the very first one organised on Discord by Cyrus, when the prize pool was only  (iirc) $300 worth of bitcoin. So you can imagine what will happen when the prize pool increases x10. 

I think this is just a variation on something we’ve seen many times in the reputation section: that some people who start threads there in a seemingly honest way, what they do is expose themselves, prompt an investigation into them and end up end up being red-tagged.

One would think that cheaters would try to stay low in order not to get detected, but they come to Meta/Reputation only to get rekt.

[Ale88]

[...]

It looks like both pieces have similar features, but I am honestly surprised if this is considered solid evidence. It feels like this was kept hidden simply because it does not really prove anything but speculation

It's not "similar features", they are identical.

Regarding vessel/plates these are commonly used in Pakistani homes. I am not saying all 250 million people of Pakistan used the same. But having similar features in common but this not the same plate please look again

These are all the Pakistani users who submitted their pizzas:

• CryptoYar (link)
• Sawera2255@ (link)
• shahzadafzal (link)
• ThemePen (link)
• qurbanshah02 (link)
• Rustam Meraj (link)
• Compromise me (link)
• Adiljutt156 (link)
• AgriTrack (link)
• Abdul Sami786  (link)
• Publictalk792 (link)
• snowpega (link)
• UpTober (link)

Not a single one has "these plates that are commonly used in Pakistani homes". And of course that is what everybody was expecting because the odds to find another Pakistani out of 10 taking part in a Bitcoin Pizza Contest using the same plate are virtually zero.

Now let's take a look at this utensils, I see you properly cleaned the black pan:

Here is the full photo of the utensils which I use to cook Pizza and the plate for a clearer and complete comparison. And also check the bowl and plates of Publictalk792. These are different.

As @examplens has already pointed out here, the pans are identical, and especially let's take a look at this specific mark:


Pizza on the left is Publictalk792's; pizza on the right is Rustam Meraj's.
What are the odds the other two users linked to you have the same pan with the same mark?

So we have the same:

• IPs for 11 months
• Papers
• Plates
• Pans

And we are supposed to believe this is all an incredible coincidence because out of 250 million of Pakistanis there are 3 in this very same contest sharing all these stuff?

At this point I'm sure that you three also had an Aurora Borealis localized entirely within your kitchen (3 merits to the first one who gets it).

Anyway that thread on Altcointalk was closed and I couldn’t see any evidence there it’s good that you bring it here. At least I can know what are those allegations.

You are connecting me to not one but two accounts I do not know why Publictalk792 and Rustam Meraj not coming forward to defend themselves. I have sent pm to both but did not get reply I do not know if Publictalk792 and Rustam Meraj is same person and they don’t to defend here or on Altcointalk.

I'm asking you for the third time: how is it possible that the admins from the other forum said you, Publictalk792 and Rustam Meraj shared the same IP for 11 months in a row and the very same day this information was made public the IPs changed?
Is this just another coincidence?

@Ale88 please check the full plate you checking the borders and those highlighted patterns are the actual patterns on plate not imperfections

I know that it's the pattern. The exact same pattern.

[libert19]

At this point I'm sure that you three also had an Aurora Borealis localized entirely within your kitchen (3 merits to the first one who gets it).

In the era of AI, you ask such question?