Would it be nice to see a body or agency for gambling self exclusion?

[Cantsay]

For a body like this to be registered or be available, it would mean that gambling platforms will have to be strictly regulated. The whole idea of sharing the IP addresses of users who have self-excluded themselve and for how long would be a nice idea, but will platforms be willing to do it when nothing is binding them to it? And also, if they do not abide by it, how would the so-called bodies figure it out?

I think this isn't going to be fixable when it comes to practicality; there might be a system to do it, but in reality, gambling platforms won't conform to it.

[Sanitough]

While the idea is good, but it will add more task or responsibility on the part of any body of gambling industry, which I don't think they will voluntarily support because aside that it requires time, it also means more salary expenses for these people in charge with the task.

In the long run, gambling casinos will be discouraged already to continue their operations because having this self-exclusion program, its beating the purpose of the kind of business they have.

Let's just be practical instead. If you can still afford to gamble and lose your money, then continue gambling. But if you are already battling with gambling addiction and debts have already piled up, and family relationships are no longer working, then its best to stay out of gambling while you can. Gambling can make you rich and become happy, but it can also make you poor and become homeless, and ruin your mental and emotional health.

[Orpichukwu]

How will this body get the data of gamblers from a NoKYC casino or from Polymarket because I know that we still have addicted gamblers betting in Polymarket.

I get your concern, but you know that there is no solution which is always 100% effective. There will always be a few who can't be affected by the method suggested to help them, and in this case those who know their way to using NOKYC casinos, offshore casinos and decentralised prediction markets like Polymarket will always find their way, but those who hold the majority use regulated casinos. At least the agency can try to help them in every possible way that they can so that when they apply for self-exclusion, it remains so until it's being lifted instead of exploring some loopholes.

[stadus]

As far as I know, there are already government regulatory bodies that are assigned to this. They maintain centralized databases that once you request for self-exclusion, eventually it will notify multiple gambling platforms to exclude you, but mostly it is based on your geographic location.

However, there are also threats to gamblers associated with this kind of program. There is higher possibility of centralized data breaches and privacy leakage, so the gambler's identity will be exposed making them a target for hackers.

Also, if these gamblers will have a change of mind and want to proceed gambling, since they are currently excluded from licensed casinos, then that's the time that they will start entering unregulated black market and become more prone to gambling addiction knowing there is zero consumer protection offer with this unregulated offshore websites.

[Sonia_123]

That is a great idea, but I  think the developed countries would be doing that, but don't you think the gamblers can easily change to another account if we'll known with a particular account to continue with his gambling activities .

An addicted gambler will always find a way out to satisfy his urge no matter the trace and monitoring of your KYC in the poly market .

It's all best to let them learn their lesson in a hard way because an addicted gambler will always gamble.

[Russlenat]

I have heard already a government body having this kind of gambling self-exclusion program. This is good, it will lessen gambling addiction rate, and would prevent these gamblers from experiencing the worst life scenarios with gambling.

However, here's the problem, no gambler would allow himself to go on self-exclusion because he thinks he can still handle the risks in gambling, and no gambler would admit that he's already going into gambling addiction. He will only face that reality after ruining all his life's opportunities and privileges due to severe gambling addiction.

[uchegod-21]

If I get you rightly, you are saying the self-exclusion option should not be made directly through casinos, but through a separate agency that will enforce the restriction across all casinos within its jurisdiction. Yes, I like that option. Some casinos are not making any deliberate effort to self-exclude their customers who are obviously gambling beyond their limits. Those customers bring them more money, so they will choose to go against the gambling rule than let the customer go.

Addiction is not a joke. Addicted gamblers need to follow strict measures to achieve their aim of recovery. An agency that is capable of restricting them from using all gambling platforms within its jurisdiction will do gamblers a lot of good. This time, there will no longer be cheating or secret gambling. Once you're done, you're done for good until your self-exclusion period is completed.

[Oasisman]

Your ideas and thoughts about this topic are all welcome.

A third-party centralized gambling protection may not be a good idea for some casinos that are after clients, knowing that the competition in this line of business is very tight these days. Regardless of whether they have the risk of an uncontrollable gambling urge, in the eyes of some casinos, they are still profitable. So, as long as they don't self-exclude themselves on that specific gambling platform, then there's no reason for them to hold and freeze them. When self-exclusion becomes centralized, everyone loses a client simultaneously after a single request.

There could be government-backed agencies like this in some countries that operate locally, but I'm almost 100% certain it could still be bypassed. One perfect example of bypassing it is by playing at an offshore online casino. So, there's not much we can do to simultaneously block a person on all gambling platforms if they request self-exclusion, but to block them on a particular platform where they specifically made a request for it.

[AVE5]

Here, I mentioned that self-exclusion is very important at some point or stage in one's gambling life because it helps to put one's gambling lifestyle under check and also try to limit the rate at which they gamble, but on the contrary, this can not be achieved. Why? because, as gamblers, sometimes emotions rule and sometimes players are mean, but with discipline it can be controlled, so I thought of it that in order for a gambler to successfully self-exclude, just as mentioned here, here and here in these discussions, it would be good to have such body so that any gambler who self excludes would not be able to access any casino be it online or offline till the expected day elapses.

You've said it all and without being self disciplined, it's not always easy to be self abided of not finding himself back to gambling again until the range you've been asked to keep off from the participation.
I learnt that when you want to  use the self exclusion pattern to regulate your gambling lifestyle it's either the regulations that'll give you the timeframe to be resisted from gagambling in order to achieve your exclusion aim depending on your approach with gambling.
So they sets the time for you buy you can help yourself better.

[Hispo]

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Your ideas and thoughts about this topic are all welcome.

The biggest obstacle for something like that to actually function and keep problem gamblers from casinos is the fact that would require a huge infrastructure, common treaties between countries were the majority of gamblers are and also it would imply a big level of centralization and control of a single entity or organization over the majority of casinos on the internet and brick and mortar on different countries.
It would be possible, do not get me wrong, but it is not close to happening any time soon.

Also, there is also de question of decentralized or Web3 casinos, which theorically run on decentralized blockchains and networks, those cannot be censored or have self-exclusion enforced by a centralized entity.
So it is much more complex than you may initially think Op.

If casino is registered on the United Kingdom and has their headquarters in the country, they do not have any legal obligations to exclude a gambler who opted to self-exclude from a casino in the United States.

[rojan]

Your ideas and thoughts about this topic are all welcome.

A third-party centralized gambling protection may not be a good idea for some casinos that are after clients, knowing that the competition in this line of business is very tight these days. Regardless of whether they have the risk of an uncontrollable gambling urge, in the eyes of some casinos, they are still profitable. So, as long as they don't self-exclude themselves on that specific gambling platform, then there's no reason for them to hold and freeze them. When self-exclusion becomes centralized, everyone loses a client simultaneously after a single request.

There could be government-backed agencies like this in some countries that operate locally, but I'm almost 100% certain it could still be bypassed. One perfect example of bypassing it is by playing at an offshore online casino. So, there's not much we can do to simultaneously block a person on all gambling platforms if they request self-exclusion, but to block them on a particular platform where they specifically made a request for it.

You're right on the money. In theory, a centralized self-exclusion system could be designed to shield the problem gambler from various platforms, but that isn't the case in reality. Many casinos fight for players, so not all of them would be enthusiastic about a system that lets them get rid of players from the entire casino industry. While a regulated system may be in place. Savvy players can circumvent it with the assistance of offshore casinos. VPNs. Or unregulated platforms. However. This does not mean that a centralized database wouldn't mitigate. Harm for many individuals Particularly in regulated markets. Rather it may not be a dream come true, but industry wide self exclusion and more effective use of available tools for responsible gambling and tougher enforcement would offer better protection than relying on individual casino exclusions.

[viljy]

I think that such a centralized authority is not needed. Because there will be unnecessary risks to the privacy of customers. If an addicted gambler has enough willpower to exclude himself from one casino, then he will be able to do the same in another casino and in the next one.

Self-exclusion is generally not a particularly effective tool in the fight against gambling addiction, and it is highly doubtful that centralization will make this tool more effective. But the risks, including corruption risks (trading in the private data of rich clients), are multiplied by centralization.

In general, sooner or later monopolization will occur in the online casino industry, and something similar to this agency may appear. But is it worth speeding up the approach of this moment?

[Ishicryptic]

I wonder how casinos will be willing to comply with giving their addicted gamblers data to an independent body for monitoring self exclusion, I think that they would rather not except if they are mandated by regulation to do so. They will want to focus on addicts that are on self exclusion in their own platform rather than interfering with the self exclusions of other casinos.

Casinos are businesses which profits on gamblers loses and they wouldn't want to care if a losing gambler is on self exclusion elsewhere. It should come down to gamblers to put themselves on self exclusion in every casinos that they are registered on, if an addicted gambler has the courage to self exclude on one casino they should also be courageous to do the same in the other casinos that they are registered on.

[Africolo]

I was going through the gambling discussion board when I saw a topic "How long would you self-exclude after a bad loss?" which caught my attention. There have been lots of discussions with respect to self-exclusion and also complaints of players against casinos knowing that they have gambled above their limit, which should have prompted the casinos to restrict or exclude them from gambling due to them gambling way too high, which I see some sense in such conversation.

Here, I mentioned that self-exclusion is very important at some point or stage in one's gambling life because it helps to put one's gambling lifestyle under check and also try to limit the rate at which they gamble, but on the contrary, this can not be achieved. Why? because, as gamblers, sometimes emotions rule and sometimes players are mean, but with discipline it can be controlled, so I thought of it that in order for a gambler to successfully self-exclude, just as mentioned here, here and here in these discussions, it would be good to have such body so that any gambler who self excludes would not be able to access any casino be it online or offline till the expected day elapses.

Why these body? we know initiating self exclusion with one casino would definitely not affect the other casino so a player can easily activate another casino to play with after selfexcluding from a casino which means their self exclusion is just in vain so to make sure it is properly adhered to, there should be some form of organisation or an agency independently responsible for this act and working closely with casinos both online and offline to make sure they get data of players who self exclude to update their data where all casinos updates are domilciled so if incase any player self exclude, all the casinos would get a notification and quickly restrict that player on their platform till the self exclusion time elapses and this would be achieved by having the details of the player or through IP address so that any registration or access through that IP to any casino would be blocked. At least these measures would help players to achieve their self-exclusion and restriction goals for those who can not discipline themselves.

Your ideas and thoughts about this topic are all welcome.

I believe there are regulatory bodies that handles self exclusion of gamblings depending on the country one is located, the UK government has a body that regulates it and can ban a prayer on casinos who has got against it's rules, I have read a story of a woman who demanded that she should be banned for life from playing casinos and she later traveled to another country to gamble on casinos and won but they refused to pay her because she has been ban for life, so it's believed there are bodies that oversees self exclusion from gambling.

Self discipline is very important when it comes to gambling, we shouldn't be greedy in other not to control our betting activities and another thing is that self exclusion from gambling sites is a sole decision from the gambler, he might decide to request for it due to too many looses he has experience and wants to take a break for a while, even without agency someone can decide to exclude himself for his mental health.

[iv4n]

Your ideas and thoughts about this topic are all welcome.

So we need an agency, an app, or some government body for everything... There's no need for us to work on character, self-discipline, and self-control. What happened to personal responsibility? We don't need that... we need regulation and new systems to protect us from our own decisions. It's never our fault, let's blame everyone & everything else...

Would it be nice to see a body or agency for gambling self exclusion?

Self-exclusion agency or a body can't fix the cause of the problem... The only self-exclusion that can help is in you, when you decide to stop, and you simply do it... when you stick to it day by day! Build your character...

[TopTort777]

Dont you think were are grown up enough to survive without having someone that must look after us and self-exclude us if we gamble too much? I am a grown up, I dont need someone that will teach me to self-control. I must have that learned long time ago by myself, I must have learned how to keep finances long time ago, I must have been learned how to be responsible for things I have done.

[Dave1]

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Your ideas and thoughts about this topic are all welcome.

Not sure about it, might just complicated things on the gamblers itself. Yes, I know that there are certain issues with self exclusion, but still it boils down to the person itself. If he has total control of his mind, the moment you enter into this program, then you should honor it.

So you need self-control and not blame the casino if they allow you to play again. That is the problem with those players, they wanted to test the system and if they lost, they are going to blame the casino itself without even pointing that they are wrong in the first place.

So I don't see a need for this kind of body or agency, it's just a waste of effort and time.

[EarnOnVictor]

What you are describing is supposed to be part of what the incapable governments are claiming to be regulating. But the truth is that they are regulating almost NOTHING. Once you pay for licences and you can maintain your dues, and you can make some government officials happy outside the book, then you have no issues with them. Even complainers' complaints are not always acted upon, to see how ineffective they are. Such a department enforcing what you described should naturally be there with the regulatory body. And I think they are, but just incapable, I guess.

[Fortify]

I was going through the gambling discussion board when I saw a topic "How long would you self-exclude after a bad loss?" which caught my attention. There have been lots of discussions with respect to self-exclusion and also complaints of players against casinos knowing that they have gambled above their limit, which should have prompted the casinos to restrict or exclude them from gambling due to them gambling way too high, which I see some sense in such conversation.

Here, I mentioned that self-exclusion is very important at some point or stage in one's gambling life because it helps to put one's gambling lifestyle under check and also try to limit the rate at which they gamble, but on the contrary, this can not be achieved. Why? because, as gamblers, sometimes emotions rule and sometimes players are mean, but with discipline it can be controlled, so I thought of it that in order for a gambler to successfully self-exclude, just as mentioned here, here and here in these discussions, it would be good to have such body so that any gambler who self excludes would not be able to access any casino be it online or offline till the expected day elapses.

Why these body? we know initiating self exclusion with one casino would definitely not affect the other casino so a player can easily activate another casino to play with after selfexcluding from a casino which means their self exclusion is just in vain so to make sure it is properly adhered to, there should be some form of organisation or an agency independently responsible for this act and working closely with casinos both online and offline to make sure they get data of players who self exclude to update their data where all casinos updates are domilciled so if incase any player self exclude, all the casinos would get a notification and quickly restrict that player on their platform till the self exclusion time elapses and this would be achieved by having the details of the player or through IP address so that any registration or access through that IP to any casino would be blocked. At least these measures would help players to achieve their self-exclusion and restriction goals for those who can not discipline themselves.

Your ideas and thoughts about this topic are all welcome.

When we have organisations like the UN, which struggle to solve major problems and often end in deadlock between countries, then it will be a real struggle to organise a body that will solve smaller issues like this. The biggest catch is any country that stays outside of the organization would have the ability to capitalize and make a lot of money by hosting gambling sites that don't adhere to the rules set down. If the other countries were able to pressure such countries into submission, then it could work, but there are some countries - like North Korea - that will not be pressured. Looking at offshore banking and how billionaires hide wealth on these private islands, yet never suffer consequences , that idea that gambling self exclusion could be enforced is even more distant.

[Fredomago]

Here, I mentioned that self-exclusion is very important at some point or stage in one's gambling life because it helps to put one's gambling lifestyle under check and also try to limit the rate at which they gamble, but on the contrary, this can not be achieved. Why? because, as gamblers, sometimes emotions rule and sometimes players are mean, but with discipline it can be controlled, so I thought of it that in order for a gambler to successfully self-exclude, just as mentioned here, here and here in these discussions, it would be good to have such body so that any gambler who self excludes would not be able to access any casino be it online or offline till the expected day elapses.

You've said it all and without being self disciplined, it's not always easy to be self abided of not finding himself back to gambling again until the range you've been asked to keep off from the participation.
I learnt that when you want to  use the self exclusion pattern to regulate your gambling lifestyle it's either the regulations that'll give you the timeframe to be resisted from gagambling in order to achieve your exclusion aim depending on your approach with gambling.
So they sets the time for you buy you can help yourself better.

It can help as you can use that certain time frame to reflect to yourself especially if you are already in the point of accepting your addiction, having that body to assist you in coping with your mistake will help you to re-allign yourself to it's normal routine, with that timeframe and with the willingness of you working for your own good, this body will be very useful to help you in working to minimize or completely elimnate gambling from your system.