Would it be nice to see a body or agency for gambling self exclusion?

[CryptSafe]

I was going through the gambling discussion board when I saw a topic "How long would you self-exclude after a bad loss?" which caught my attention. There have been lots of discussions with respect to self-exclusion and also complaints of players against casinos knowing that they have gambled above their limit, which should have prompted the casinos to restrict or exclude them from gambling due to them gambling way too high, which I see some sense in such conversation.

Here, I mentioned that self-exclusion is very important at some point or stage in one's gambling life because it helps to put one's gambling lifestyle under check and also try to limit the rate at which they gamble, but on the contrary, this can not be achieved. Why? because, as gamblers, sometimes emotions rule and sometimes players are mean, but with discipline it can be controlled, so I thought of it that in order for a gambler to successfully self-exclude, just as mentioned here, here and here in these discussions, it would be good to have such body so that any gambler who self excludes would not be able to access any casino be it online or offline till the expected day elapses.

Why these body? we know initiating self exclusion with one casino would definitely not affect the other casino so a player can easily activate another casino to play with after selfexcluding from a casino which means their self exclusion is just in vain so to make sure it is properly adhered to, there should be some form of organisation or an agency independently responsible for this act and working closely with casinos both online and offline to make sure they get data of players who self exclude to update their data where all casinos updates are domilciled so if incase any player self exclude, all the casinos would get a notification and quickly restrict that player on their platform till the self exclusion time elapses and this would be achieved by having the details of the player or through IP address so that any registration or access through that IP to any casino would be blocked. At least these measures would help players to achieve their self-exclusion and restriction goals for those who can not discipline themselves.

Your ideas and thoughts about this topic are all welcome.

[Agbe]

As for me, gambling is an interest in which individual or a body (organization) or agency can decide to withdraw at anytime of their choice. Casinos can create a limit for their clients if only the casino wants to control the gambling habit of the gamblers but on the side of the gambler (s) they can make a decisive action to exclude themselves from gambling at anytime of their choice. But if it is the casino that created the avenue for the exclusion, they will be a time frame for the body or the individual to return. But all depends on the casino policy of self-exclusion. Self-exclusion is a determination to leave the gambling world. Therefore the gambler will leave the casinos manually (he will not login to those which do not have self-exclusion button) and click on the  button on those which have the self-exclusion button. Whether bad or good, it is for the gambler to decide.

[crwth]

Isn't there already agencies like this? Depending on the country that you are in. I know that in the UK, there are responsible gaming tools that block access to gambling sites.

I'm just worried about the possible database that would handle this, and they would have the data of the people who would be prone to addiction or something. It's data privacy concerns again.
^{(This should be a voluntary thing)}

[Emjay24]

It would be nice to have one but there would be a general database and your KYC must be taken to identify which player is on self exclusion and maybe people wouldn't be willing to give away their KYC freely for such checkmating, so it might not work on a general note. However I believe certain countries already has that in place, the best way to enforce it is per country because you cannot just have that central body for every online casino, especially for offshore casinos who campaigns for NO KYC

[Odohu]

It would seem nice to have such body but the job is not big to create an agency for that. The regulatory requirements of some countries cover that already so creating another agency for such minor thing seem to me like a waste of resources. The percentage of gamblers that use the self exclusion option is very small, probably less than 10% which is why I feel is not much if a big deal. The regulators can simply pay more attention to how casino implements that amd that should be enough.

[Merit.s]

How will this body get the data of gamblers from a NoKYC casino or from Polymarket because I know that we still have addicted gamblers betting in Polymarket.

The fact is that quitting from gambling or going on a long term break all depends on the gambler determination because if he's desperate to be self excluded, he can do that manually and do it sincerely.

[letteredhub]

This is a huge task you're placing on the gambling industry and which I assure you that even placed on their table as recommendation they won't implement it. Something else that may defeat this idea even if it's implemented is the character of gamblers registering accounts on different gambling sites with different data online. So even when they self exclude on gambling A they can easily make use of B where they have a different data presented for KYC.

The ideal age for gambling is 18+, right? Yes, right. Hence a person is 18+ he doesn't need another adult to babysit him, as an adult they ought to have known that every action is with consequences. Some of this introductions makes me feel like we're helping to abet irresponsible gamblers from continuing to be irresponsible while others be cleaning their shit.

[Porfirii]

Several users have shared their concerns about how the data would be treated by that body or agency, but considering that it would process the personal data of users who would have already gone through a KYC process, do you mean that you trust less the treatment that these agencies would make of the data, than that of the casinos?

As I commented in the topic about self-exclusion mentioned by the OP, at first it seems that the decision to exclude oneself from a single site does not make sense. Therefore, I think it would be positive to see more agencies of this type, as long as the processing they do of personal data is done on the basis of consent and with all the legal guarantees.

[nara1892]

Any idea that leads to prevention is always good and good but I think the casino will be reluctant to agree to this regulation considering their goal is to make gamblers continue to play without limits so that their profits will increase, besides the data problem, not everyone (gamblers) is willing to provide their data because there are many cases of misuse, and even if for example the institution has a strict system to protect the gamblers' personal data but it does not mean there will be no data leaks, the possibility is always there, and I think this is a serious consideration for gamblers.

[Rruchi man]

So in case any player self-excludes, all the casinos would get a notification and quickly restrict that player on their platform till the self exclusion time elapses

Your contribution makes sense, but it may be very difficult to achieve considering the number of casinos that are coming up daily and how these casinos are springing up in different locations without anyone exactly knowing the country of origin. Since these casinos that are crypto-inclined have a worldwide range except in countries where they are restricted, which are fewer than the number of countries where they have an outreach, it may be difficult keeping track of all the gamblers and their dated activities to know which ones self-exclude in one casino so that it affects the other casino. Unless a player on his own really decides to want to self-exclude, self-exclusion may be something very difficult to achieve.

[hyudien]

In my quick search, the UK and Australia have implemented similar systems, the problem is that they only apply to operators licensed in their respective jurisdictions, so players can still easily move to casinos operating under other licenses. IP blocking isn't a perfect solution either, as it can easily be overcome using a VPN. So, in practice, if one really wants to self-exclude, the most important factor remains the player themselves.
 

[qwertyup23]

Isn't there already agencies like this? Depending on the country that you are in. I know that in the UK, there are responsible gaming tools that block access to gambling sites.

I'm just worried about the possible database that would handle this, and they would have the data of the people who would be prone to addiction or something. It's data privacy concerns again.
^{(This should be a voluntary thing)}

There was a recent post on this board where the Philippine government specifically the Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corporation (PAGCOR) has started opening their hotline for gambling-related queries and problems should you want to self-exclude yourself.

The problem here would be the execution. Given that gambling is responsible for yielding tons of revenue to the government, which in turn would fund the infrastructures and other related projects, it would have to strike a balance in finding that sweet spot of helping its citizens while maintaining its mission towards revenue.

With all that being said, I will always be pro self-exclusion: meaning, I would always see the positive effect of helping the gambler addicts in resolving their addiction rather than prioritizing the revenue of the government.

[yahoo62278]

What about humans that take accountability for their actions? Are there any of those around? Addiction is and has always been a problem, but why is it societies problem? We need this agency for drug addicts, we need this for alcoholics, we need this for gamblers, we need, we need, we need....... The list goes on and on.

When are we going to stand up as a society and be accountable for our actions without looking for someone to blame? Without having to unload our problems on to someone or multiple someone else's? People need help sometimes I suppose but that doesn't take away from the fact that the world always seems to want to blame someone else for their issues.

Not saying a support group or something wouldn't/couldn't help. Just saying we gotta be better for ourselves also.

[Cryptomultiplier]

My question is, don't you think a player who self excludes and the information is shared among other casinos and their IP is tracked, can easily use another device to create a new account to gamble on?
The problem I see with self exclusion is simply that these gamblers don't have self discipline, otherwise won't it just be easy to delete the casino or gambling platform and or restrict oneself voluntarily from gambling?
It finally boils down to individual self discipline and mindset, otherwise, all these features to try to restrict addicted gamblers can easily be bypassed if they want to gamble so desperately.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

I remember we still have a topic that says Woman who asked for life time ban removed from casino after winning jackpot, from what I understand there, I think Pennsylvania have the agency that is in charge of self exclusion from gamblint but I think it's just offline casinos (I don't know for sure), so from the even in that article, she was stopped from gambling when they realized she has self exclusion from gambling, so it means other country can enforced it if they want to. Your question is that would it be nice to do that, my answer is yes, it would be nice because some people do no have the discipline to stop themselves from gambling but such agency would make sure the person never gamble in any casino.

[Nathrixxx]

There is no way and agency for gambling self exclusion or any entity determine to take this as a responsibility could be as effective as when a gambler himself try to prevent this from happening, most of the problems created by gamblast today are due to their indiscipline.

You can't be a random Gambler and expect things to be in place for you, it is expected of us to maintain a high level of coordination in gambling so that we don't take the wrong approach to it, I don't think we need to result to self-exclusion when we do what is necessary of what to observe as we gamble in a more responsible manner and have fun.

[aioc]

Governing body for self-exclusion sounds good, but its application will harm the privacy of the players. Imagine the body will give casinos your data, gamblers pick the casino they are playing, they don't want their KYC on casinos they are not playing.
When it comes to self-exclusion, players should be responsible enough to adhere to what they impose on themselves, not on third parties. Your safety should be your main concern in gambling

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

So I thought of it that in order for a gambler to successfully self-exclude, just as mentioned here, here and here in these discussions, it would be good to have such body so that any gambler who self excludes would not be able to access any casino be it online or offline till the expected day elapses.

So how do you intend to achieve that? Or do you intend to arrest and imprisoned the gambler until the number of days he excluded his/herself elapses? Because to be honestly speaking, inasmuch as the gambler still has access to the Internet and can walk freely at anytime to anywhere. It will be very difficult to totally exclude such individual from gambling if he lacks self control. Because until an individual is disciplined enough to have full control over his emotions and urge for constant gambling at always, he can not achieve an effective result. Unless if he self-exclude himself on both the casino and banking apps, whereby he won't be able to deposit into other gambling apps.

So to make sure it is properly adhered to, there should be some form of organisation or an agency independently responsible for this act and working closely with casinos both online and offline to make sure they get data of players who self exclude to update their data where all casinos updates are domilciled so if incase any player self exclude, all the casinos would get a notification and quickly restrict that player on their platform till the self exclusion time elapses and this would be achieved by having the details of the player or through IP address so that any registration or access through that IP to any casino would be blocked. At least these measures would help players to achieve their self-exclusion and restriction goals for those who can not discipline themselves.

I literally don't see anything you wrote here as a very solid measures that can be able to stop any gambler who has irresponsible habits of gambling. Because even if you set up an organization to monitor each users and their gambling habits, are those people going to be personally monitoring these gamblers individually? Because as long as they don't, am irresponsible person will always find a way to bypass even the IP address via using VPN to gamble. Hence, discipline is the best way to self exclude oneself..

[DPHOR]

So far I love what you put here because when people do self exclusion in a casino A, they would still turn back going to the next gambling site to continue gambling without such law holding them from not gambling in Gambling site B. Self exclusion should be applied generally In respects to what happened in site A, not to repeat itself also in the site B.
But nowadays it seems some people goes to site B without having that limitation they have limited themselves, but if there is any thing to triggers all casinos about whom or who went on self exclude not to give them that access to their site also, with this gambling addiction could be at least being control.

[Btcdeybodi]

Even if there is agency for self-exclusion such that once you self-exclude yourself from gambling it will automatically prompt other casino sites to exclude you, but it will take self discipline to be able to achieve that because i have seen a gambler who funded a friend's gambling account and used it to stake a bet after his own account was blocked by the casino. What am trying to say here is that a gambler should not gamble to an extent that they can't do without gambling even after taking measures to prevent them from gambling and incurring more losses.