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July 02, 2026, 11:54:10 PM
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Justice becomes unfair when a rich offender is already  involved, because he gets to buy what true justice is, and leaves the innocent man serving the prison time instead. And worst is, those lawmakers are completely aware of the what they're doing but because money works more than empathy and conscience, the law of equality and fair justice are now totally gone.
True. In my country, the rich man always gets the advantage. They can hire top lawyers and they can win the case easily. Even they got to the jail, they get special treatment there. And they can be our from the jail faster because of many reduction of sentence. Meanwhile the poor man, they are very difficult to get the justice because law enforcement gets nothing from the poor man. In most cases, poor man often loses in the court due to any reason. When they go to the jail, they must get minimal treatment.

But in cases where the poor person is the offender, no delays and hesitation, justice is served immediately.
Indeed. There is too easy to get final decision when the offender is poor man. It is because there is no lawyer and there is no money.  Cheesy


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July 02, 2026, 11:54:51 PM
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the law has nothing to do with the rich as laws
It actually has.
There are loopholes of the laws that the rich people sees and not the poor.
Look at the ex-wife of Jeff Bezos, do you believe that it's real that she's splurging her money to the foundations and donates it wholly?
I don't think so, that's one of the loopholes. When you put money in the charity, that's tax free and that's one of the laws that they know.

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July 03, 2026, 02:53:52 AM
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The rich will eventually be prosecuted for their crimes if any, but maybe at a longer delay or after a lot of paperwork which will be hindered in every step.

Because of the rich, they hindrance often leads to frustration on the part of the complainant.

But eventually nobody is above law and hence the people will be taken care of the almighty eventually or their future lives will be ruined in a manner that we cannot even think of. So dont feel bad about anything.

 
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July 03, 2026, 03:55:52 AM
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The government made the law to favor themselves because they are the rich and friends to the rich people. It becomes very easy for them to go scout free without being punished after committing a crime because they can buy their way out or pay a fine.

However, the poor doesn't have money to take care of his basic needs and monthly expenses which makes him incapable to pay for his crimes and be set free.
It's basically comes down to human bias and preference, even in developed countries you'll encounter similar things. I wonder if this is where AI can be used since AI don't know concept about preference that helps it to be neutral. Imagine if both lawmaker and judges are neutral robot that abide by the ethics and conduct everything neutrally. Justice will easily improve.

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July 03, 2026, 09:01:27 AM
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Laws are meant for all humans and no one is above it, in certain countries where the justice system isn't corrupted even billionaires go to prison, that's the reason why I think that this doesn't happen everywhere. in some countries the rich cannot get away with things that they did to break the law because it has nothing to do with their wealth but it is quite sad that in many countries this isn't the case, they place those that are rich above the law all because of the financial benefits that comes with it.

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July 03, 2026, 09:41:22 AM
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When crimes are committed by the rich most especially stealing public funds, they find suitable ways to encourt the crime but leaves the floor open till when a poor man does something small compared to that of the rich man, all actions as stated in the constitution will Then be remembered just for his punishment.
I'm sure your reference isn't to a country like China. From what I read concerning that country, crime and corruption have been battled to a reasonable extent that offenders are publicly shamed and punished. I like it that way. In Africa, what you said is highly evident and that's because we've weak institutions of government that's supposed to implement and punish offenders. Ironically, these institutions are now deeply involved in corruption themselves. Justice is bought in Africa as the judiciary no longer serves as the hope of the common man but that of the highest bidder.
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July 12, 2026, 04:43:10 AM
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It's basically comes down to human bias and preference, even in developed countries you'll encounter similar things. I wonder if this is where AI can be used since AI don't know concept about preference that helps it to be neutral. Imagine if both lawmaker and judges are neutral robot that abide by the ethics and conduct everything neutrally. Justice will easily improve.
Justice depends on evidence. If you dont have the evidence you cannot go ahead with justice. If you cannot prove that evidence was tampered in the first place again you cannot bring in justice. I dont see how AI can help in this.

The rich are just really good at tampering evidence and creating fake evidence both of which are done spending money. The poor are at a disadvantage because of this.

However I believe in karma and bad karma will haunt them for lives and hence I sleep easy keeping my hands clean even if I have to remain a bit poor.

 
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July 12, 2026, 05:16:22 AM
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Laws are made by the politicians to protect the interest of the rich and influential persons in the society because when they leave power the law will also be favorable to them and if the law is going against the high and mighty in their society they will simply change it. The poor and most middle class are at the mercy of the laws whether it would favor them or not.

I don't know much about developed countries like America and Europe, in Africa, specifically Nigeria, most rich and influential people often escape justice, they will manoeuvre their ways because they are friends with politicians and can sort themselves out and that is why corruption is at it's peak. What a very rich person will commit and get away with it a poor person who committed half of such crime will pay fully for their crime.
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True. In my country, the rich man always gets the advantage. They can hire top lawyers and they can win the case easily. Even they got to the jail, they get special treatment there. And they can be our from the jail faster because of many reduction of sentence. Meanwhile the poor man, they are very difficult to get the justice because law enforcement gets nothing from the poor man. In most cases, poor man often loses in the court due to any reason. When they go to the jail, they must get minimal treatment.
This means that the law does not apply to a person's money or fame. The law treats all citizens equally. In the eyes of the law, the rich and the poor are nothing. Everyone is the same to them. If a person commits a crime, he should be punished based on his crime and not because of his wealth. Because justice is also loved by Allah and we, as Muslims, should follow the commandments we have received so that tomorrow we will not be able to do injustice to an oppressed person without any crime. The purpose of this is that in a good society, justice is the same for everyone. No person should be left out on his own merits. The main purpose of the law is to establish justice in the society and establish the rights of people, due to which peace and order are maintained.

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July 13, 2026, 05:56:24 PM
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In my own opinion,the law is supposed to be no respecter of any individual regardless their financial status in the society.Whoever fall victim to a crime should face the due penalty a criminal is meant to face,a poor man wouldn’t experience a house arrest in their lifetime,the house arrest are only meant for the rich and influential personalities in our society.It’s only a rich man that would get arrested and come out looking fresh but a poor man who was arrested would go into the prison and come back looking tacky and all the rest.In this case,the law is unjust everyone that has committed a crime are meant to suffer same penalty,though the law would weigh the crime.According to the law not all crimes are equal.

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July 13, 2026, 08:33:32 PM
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The notion that rich can get away with murder if they want to, is not really "untrue" but it is also about power. So if you do have a lot of money, you are capable of bribing the right people and hiring the best lawyers and even PI and make sure that you get away with it.

But have we seen a lot of rich people need up getting jailed? Yes we have, that means that it is not guarantee that just because you are rich, you can do unlawful things and get away with it, you would have a higher chance than a poor person, but not 100% untouchable.

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July 15, 2026, 10:18:10 PM
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The notion that rich can get away with murder if they want to, is not really "untrue" but it is also about power. So if you do have a lot of money, you are capable of bribing the right people and hiring the best lawyers and even PI and make sure that you get away with it.

But have we seen a lot of rich people need up getting jailed? Yes we have, that means that it is not guarantee that just because you are rich, you can do unlawful things and get away with it, you would have a higher chance than a poor person, but not 100% untouchable.
I saw many people who are not jailed because they have a lot of money and they bought all people after that when they did crime. Many of the rich people are involved in crime because they have money and they are free in life and have no other thing to do. When you have free time then your mind will be distracted. If you are distracted you will not be at right path and you will lose your most of the money to hide your sins. Poor people have less money but they know their boundaries because they have to run their family with their income but rich people don't understand that and they want to destroy poor people by doing different things which we can not  mention.

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When crimes are committed by the rich most especially stealing public funds, they find suitable ways to encourt the crime but leaves the floor open till when a poor man does something small compared to that of the rich man, all actions as stated in the constitution will Then be remembered just for his punishment.

The law works alright, everywhere else, it does work. The problem remains that, you can’t prove nothing. How can you? You haven’t got the resource or the necessary access to materials that can prove an accusation beyond reasonable doubt before the court of law.

The rich wouldn’t fight themselves because, they all benefit from the same purse. Everyone within their class has got a skeleton in their cupboard and most times, it’s a secrete they share, pull one down and they are all going down together so, they don’t spill.

Would you expect law makers to make laws that wouldn’t favour them? That’s one one the problem, the system is already flawed.

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July 16, 2026, 01:13:53 AM
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The notion that rich can get away with murder if they want to, is not really "untrue" but it is also about power. So if you do have a lot of money, you are capable of bribing the right people and hiring the best lawyers and even PI and make sure that you get away with it.

But have we seen a lot of rich people need up getting jailed? Yes we have, that means that it is not guarantee that just because you are rich, you can do unlawful things and get away with it, you would have a higher chance than a poor person, but not 100% untouchable.

Yes. Everything will be processed if proven wrong. The key lies with the judge, who gives them full rights according to the rules without pressure.

In many places, there are also reasons why this happens, one of which is the repeated demands, whether from superiors, corporations, or their own families, which leads to them getting into trouble.

It's only the firmness of the leadership in assessing the extent of the damage caused by what they've done and, if necessary, confiscating all the assets they've accumulated from their actions.
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July 16, 2026, 03:14:00 AM
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I don't know if this is true in rich countries or countries that claim to be democratic, but here in my country and in poor Third World countries where corruption prevails, this theory is absolutely true.

Yes, the law was made only for the poor and has nothing to do with the rich, not only on the economic level and tax evasion, but also on the criminal level. For example, here in my country, if a rich person or his son commits a murder, for example, he can escape punishment by bribing judges and some corrupt officials.


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Exactly, the law has nothing to do with the rich as laws are made only for the supervision and correction of the actions of the poor and weak people while they believe the rich are never law offender's. The mentality of inequality between the rich and the poor before the law is the reasons behind the high increase in corruption all over the world and will continue in such velocity until we come back to full consciousness that all are equal before the law. When crimes are committed by the rich most especially stealing public funds, they find suitable ways to encourt the crime but leaves the floor open till when a poor man does something small compared to that of the rich man, all actions as stated in the constitution will Then be remembered just for his punishment.
The inequality gap between the rich and the poor is so wide that even the poor begins to hate the rich instead of trying to cover up the gap so they themselves can benefit from those things which the rich benefit from in the society. But another reason why the inequality remains is due to the fact that the rich also like as the poor thinks they're are the bad ones when the government is actually the cause of these injustice.











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July 16, 2026, 09:22:25 AM
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The law is definitely different for rich people because there is a hierarchy in our society and those who are on top of the power, will not punish themselves. They invest lots of money in public image to gain the empathy of people, they have a huge influence over many things and so on. If they are in trouble, others get into trouble too and it's a protective mechanism for them.

Anyways, I was watching a debate about why rich people should pay higher taxes than normal people and one reason a man said is: Who needs police the most, rich or the poor? You can't steal anything from poor because rich has the wealth, so, police exists for the protection of rich people and they should be paying higher taxes.
There were talks about other benefits that rich get cheaply but I won't go into details.


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One of my favorite sayings out there is 'The Strong survive while the Weak perish' implying that what op stated is common sense and laws generally apply to all classes except for the rich. Some rich people do get judged by the law, but those are rare cases.

This is what power and money can do in our world and none of this will ever change most probably sadly.

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July 16, 2026, 10:08:02 AM
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The trigger for the crisis of public trust is the unequal legal treatment between the rich and the poor. The law seems to be able to be bought and sold because in practice there is always inequality "sharp at the bottom, blunt at the top", the most obvious example of injustice in the application of the law to crimes such as corruption which often receive lower penalties than minor offenses committed by the poor. Sometimes I wonder, are there two sets of laws, one for those who have access and the other for those who have nothing, because words like "all must be equal in the eyes of the law" do not fit the application at all.

I think the root of the problem is that the law is used as a tool of control, not as a tool of justice. When this happens, the rich feel they are above the law, which is why they dare to break the law. When the law no longer aligns with justice, it is necessary to utilize social media to openly publicize inequality so that the wealthy can also fall under a fair legal process, even though the process is slow, but it can have a deterrent effect.
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August 28, 2026, 10:39:06 PM
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Exactly, the law has nothing to do with the rich as laws are made only for the supervision and correction of the actions of the poor and weak people while they believe the rich are never law offender's. The mentality of inequality between the rich and the poor before the law is the reasons behind the high increase in corruption all over the world and will continue in such velocity until we come back to full consciousness that all are equal before the law. When crimes are committed by the rich most especially stealing public funds, they find suitable ways to encourt the crime but leaves the floor open till when a poor man does something small compared to that of the rich man, all actions as stated in the constitution will Then be remembered just for his punishment.
The inequality gap between the rich and the poor is so wide that even the poor begins to hate the rich instead of trying to cover up the gap so they themselves can benefit from those things which the rich benefit from in the society. But another reason why the inequality remains is due to the fact that the rich also like as the poor thinks they're are the bad ones when the government is actually the cause of these injustice.
One more reason why poor people hate rich people is tax system, government is taking more tax from poor people, and rich people have strategies. Legally, they have to pay no tax to the government. Still, there is a fault of poor people who have no information about the rules set by government because if they take loan from a bank, then they will buy anything they will not pay tax to the government because they have nothing in their pocket. But most people have house and they are thinking that they have much more in their life, and they are paying more tax on their home and income, and government is taking most of their income, and they are hardly eating their meal due to inflation and poor management of money.

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