Force ban/exclude someone to online gambling

[Betwrong]

~I'm curious that this could be some solution for gambling addiction of someone we know?

I think adults shouldn't be forced to do or not do something if it's not against the law. Let's not turn the Earth into a prison camp just because some of us think that this or that rule should be enforced. The fact your family member has gambling addiction must be confirmed by a specialist, not by other family members, and then, if confirmed, you can send letters, attaching the official diagnose, to all sites he's playing on asking to exclude him.

[AVE5]

I'm curious, are there any platforms or gambling providers, or even some governments, that you can ask for someone to ban doing online gambling at all?

For example,
There is one family member of ours that we can confirm of gambling addiction, and we want them to be force excluded in participating in any online gambling without their confirmation anymore.

This is interested for families that's prompted to help their relatives fight against gambling addiction but with this step of having to request for the authority to ban the user I think it's a breaching of privacy.
And how do you even explain to the authorities from online that your relative is addicted when the victim himself isn't admitting it? I guess you won't force him to say YES just so that the necessary action of BAN can be taken.
Even if such feature exist, you'll be required to provide evidence of your addiction claims and I'm sure his gambling budgets, gambling history and his incomes flows won't be enough for this because these may be parts of the documents required for the process.
It's only the victim that'd have to sign it that they're gambling too much and that's self exclusion will remain the best and only option for the BAN.
Maybe the family can only succeed it in the physical casino's and sport bet shops.

[Porfirii]

in my country, to be able to access the physical casinos, players are required to scan their national ID or use biometrics to be able to cross the ticket machines at the entrance connected to a centralised system. In principle, it was a measure to ensure that minors were not allowed to access, but today I think it makes it much easier to prevent those who have requested self-exclusion from entering.

In online casinos that require KYC, I don't think it would be very difficult for identity to be verified in a centralised system as well and in fact I would almost say that in some countries it already works like this.

Now, I don't see much basis for prohibiting someone from accessing them simply because someone else has requested it. A request from the person himself, or from some public authority or court would be necessary. To do otherwise would infringe on the fundamental freedoms of individuals.

[Natalim]

I think there is none, because the fact that the user is allowed to gamble means he is at the right age and he is responsible for himself.

It can only be allowed if there is an order from regulators, like ordering the casino to stop accommodating a user because of his incapacity to think correctly, meaning the person is already addicted. But I do not know how the process would make that possible, because I have never witnessed or read any situation like that.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

Some country have this kind of team that handles "force ban operations in gambling" they handle this kind of problems but there is no general team that handles same problem worldwide, you have to make. Inquiry in your own state whether there's such team in your country but if there is not, then you can look for other possible alternative such as restrictions from accessing financial accounts. If this persons can not have access to their account, it means they won't have money to gamble with.

[Ishicryptic]

I'm curious, are there any platforms or gambling providers, or even some governments, that you can ask for someone to ban doing online gambling at all?

For example,
There is one family member of ours that we can confirm of gambling addiction, and we want them to be force excluded in participating in any online gambling without their confirmation anymore.


I'm curious that this could be some solution for gambling addiction of someone we know?

I understand your concern for your loved one who is a gambling addict by checking if there is any possibilities of excluding him from everywhere that he will go to gamble but I don't think that it is totally possible to achieve that aim. I think that your family can only effectively achieve this if he regularly gambles in physical casinos in his neighborhood, you guys can tell the managements that they shouldn't allow the addict to gamble in their casinos.

Stoping or redistricting him from gambling online would be very difficult unless he self excluded himself, if he is an adult that earns his own money the decision to stop should come from him. I think your family's main focus should be to make him to understand that he is an addict and that he needs help, if he truly realizes those facts it will be easier for him to get help.

[Futurexxx]

If is like a country like ours.. they wouldn't mind visiting some of the physical casinos or betting shops to stop allowing specific person to gamble and we don't mind also printing out his pictures not to allows him gamble again. Most time we do have a town crier who moves round announcing his name not to allow him gamble.

I know about this, but this sound very funny, because that person is going to be the talk of the town, if a town crier is sent out to make an announcement that a particular person should not be accepted to gamble, in their gambling shop.

Then lastly, you can cease his smartphone or gadgets that allows him to have access to gambling site with this he might would stop, since there is no casino than can ban someone from gambling on their site and there is no agency responsible for that action.

The best way is by restricting that person, and using force is the only remedy, because even though it seems like you will be tempering with his fundamental human right, but it's very necessary to stop a gambling addict, because their is no way this casinos that are looking for money will want to drive away their customers, even though he is an addict already. So so seizing his gadget, and taking him to an environment where he wouldn't have any access to gambling is the best way forward.

[Oshosondy]

There is one family member of ours that we can confirm of gambling addiction, and we want them to be force excluded in participating in any online gambling without their confirmation anymore.

I'm curious that this could be some solution for gambling addiction of someone we know?

If it is physical gambling sites, I mean land based, it would have been better, but it is online gambling sites which will make the self-exclusion very difficult to achieve. If the person do not have it yet in his mind to quit gambling addiction, he can open a new account on another gambling site and no government regulations that is enough to make online gambling site self-exclusion fully possible.

[Somegory]

I'm curious, are there any platforms or gambling providers, or even some governments, that you can ask for someone to ban doing online gambling at all?

For example,
There is one family member of ours that we can confirm of gambling addiction, and we want them to be force excluded in participating in any online gambling without their confirmation anymore.


I'm curious that this could be some solution for gambling addiction of someone we know?

Unless you lock them up in a room with no access to the internet, there is no way you can keep getting them banned on every online casinos, that's impossible.

It doesn't take a thing to sign up on a online casino and starr gambling straight away, it's too easy this days, one locked or banned casino is just a cause for signing up on another.

If the addict has a mind of not giving up on gambling there is no solution for such person, even if you lock them away for a year or two and they have no access to the internet, they will still want to gamble, once they gain freedom they will go back.

The road to beating addiction starts from the heart of the addicted.

[maydna]

That depend on each government, if they care with their citizens, they will launch a platform that handling about gambling problems. I am not sure if that is available here but I am really hope that is available because addicted gamblers start increases.

That could be a temporary solution for those addicting because they must willing to take recovery by themselves and not because others asking that. I wonder how the government can ban/exclude someone to online gambling but that person still return to online gambling without wanting to cure himself.

[Oasisman]

I know we're coming from the same country. The answer it seems is yes and no.

Yes, because Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corporation (PAGCOR) not only allows self-exclusion but also family exclusion.

No, because I'm sure that of the hundreds of online gambling platforms here, many must be operating outside the regulations of PAGCOR. It must be next to impossible reaching out to each one of them asking that a family member be banned because he/she is addicted. Another problem would be whether these unregulated services respond positively. Most likely, they won't.

Exactly.
As long as the player who got addicted is not willing to help himself, there's not much that the family can do, because he will always find a way to gamble on a different platform or on an offshore gambling site.
And yeah, here in the PH, you can find hundreds of gambling platform that operates outside the scope of PAGCOR. The worst thing is, a lot of players prefer unregulated platforms because they are under the impression that they can win more often than on the regulated ones.
We can almost guarantee that their customer service is awful, and a family self-exclusion request may just be ignored.

[Outhue]

I'm curious, are there any platforms or gambling providers, or even some governments, that you can ask for someone to ban doing online gambling at all?

For example,
There is one family member of ours that we can confirm of gambling addiction, and we want them to be force excluded in participating in any online gambling without their confirmation anymore.


I'm curious that this could be some solution for gambling addiction of someone we know?

Let's say this person's devices are been seized and you find all the active online casinos that they were using them you find help from the team and makes them block the person's IP address for good, aren't you going to return the device back to the owner? Once they have their freedom they will browse for other online casino and sign up on them.

In no time they are back to where it all started, i don't think this will work in any way, that addicted gambler needs to know that he or she is addicted and it's not healthy for them, they need to want to stop the addiction first, it begins with them and it ends with them also, he or she needs to make up their mind, that addiction is bad and it needs to stop then every solution you have in mind will work on the addicted person.

[Jody.Drummer]

That depend on each government, if they care with their citizens, they will launch a platform that handling about gambling problems. I am not sure if that is available here but I am really hope that is available because addicted gamblers start increases.

That could be a temporary solution for those addicting because they must willing to take recovery by themselves and not because others asking that. I wonder how the government can ban/exclude someone to online gambling but that person still return to online gambling without wanting to cure himself.

Although it may be done by the government I am not quite sure that it will be effective, especially when someone is already addicted then he will usually become a stubborn person even if he has been warned by those closest to him it does not make him sober at all. With the number of addicted people increasing every time compared to people recovering from their addiction but I don't think the government will be able to solve this problem even if they give a strong warning, because the key is the addicted person himself.

[Sandra_hakeem]

I'm curious, are there any platforms or gambling providers, or even some governments, that you can ask for someone to ban doing online gambling at all?

If the government actively protects us from all "bad things", then it should certainly be the only one protecting us from the self-destructive effects of gambling addiction. If the government issues casino licenses for gambling activities, then the responsibility for resolving the problems and the resulting liability (gambling addiction) falls entirely on the government. Otherwise, where did the money from the casino licenses go?

You mean the government can be held accountable for not taking into consideration, what is suppose to be their sole responsibility over their citizens right? You think they really meant it when they said "we're doing everything in our power to protect lives and properties"? It's high time you knew that these were mere promises unfulfilled, and whoever resist the restraining order (self-exclusion ban) triggers the self-destruct, and will face the aftereffect of their uncontrolled habits. The licensing authorities don't even GaF about you after a ton of money has been made!

For example,
There is one family member of ours that we can confirm of gambling addiction, and we want them to be force excluded in participating in any online gambling without their confirmation anymore.

Have you tried physical exclusion and therapy?

[purple_sparkles]

That depend on each government, if they care with their citizens, they will launch a platform that handling about gambling problems. I am not sure if that is available here but I am really hope that is available because addicted gamblers start increases.

That could be a temporary solution for those addicting because they must willing to take recovery by themselves and not because others asking that. I wonder how the government can ban/exclude someone to online gambling but that person still return to online gambling without wanting to cure himself.

Although it may be done by the government I am not quite sure that it will be effective, especially when someone is already addicted then he will usually become a stubborn person even if he has been warned by those closest to him it does not make him sober at all. With the number of addicted people increasing every time compared to people recovering from their addiction but I don't think the government will be able to solve this problem even if they give a strong warning, because the key is the addicted person himself.

I think the government may be capable of introducing a social awareness campaign that promotes a healthy attitude toward gambling and a better understanding of addiction. If people see the right messages on billboards and hear them from influencers messages focused specifically on healthy behavior, self-control, and responsible gambling rather than a total ban, it could reduce the number of people who develop gambling addiction. That’s because such messages can gradually settle into people’s subconscious. If, on the other hand, a person is forcibly blocked from gambling, they will most likely look for ways to bypass the restriction. As already mentioned, without a person’s voluntary consent and genuine desire to change, we won’t be able to overcome gambling addiction.

[LastKiss]

~snip~

I'm curious that this could be some solution for gambling addiction of someone we know?

If a country legal and regulated gambling activity it should also be aware of the risks that come with it. Providing a family exclusion program for problem gamblers should be a necessity to help prevent and manage gambling addiction for their family members. In my country, there is no system like that because gambling is banned. Therefore, if I or one of my family members becomes addicted to gambling the responsibility falls on us and our family to deal with the consequences.

[Nrcewker]

I'm curious that this could be some solution for gambling addiction of someone we know?

This depends on the country. Also, have you heard of human rights? It would be against those rights to simply complain about someone and prevent them from engaging in a particular activity unless it is illegal.

At least in my country, people have the right to practice any profession and the freedom to engage in any legal form of entertainment. If someone’s gambling addiction is very serious, the best approach is to help them understand the harmful consequences of gambling and encourage them to join a rehabilitation program.

Ultimately, only the person himself can overcome a gambling addiction if he genuinely wants to. Otherwise, there is no system that can simply ban him from gambling everywhere against his own will.

[GreatArkansas]

I know we're coming from the same country. The answer it seems is yes and no.

Yes, because Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corporation (PAGCOR) not only allows self-exclusion but also family exclusion.

No, because I'm sure that of the hundreds of online gambling platforms here, many must be operating outside the regulations of PAGCOR. It must be next to impossible reaching out to each one of them asking that a family member be banned because he/she is addicted. Another problem would be whether these unregulated services respond positively. Most likely, they won't.

Oh yeah, welcome to the Philippines hahahah.
I'm curious if our government really practices it, and even if these gambling platforms acknowledge this? I'm really curious to see someone who has personal experience doing these, self-exclusions, and especially these family exclusions.

So, reading some of the posts, this is more likely based on the country you are in. Not a platform, instead, because, for example, here in the Philippines, I can still use some popular platforms even though they are not based in the Philippines.

[Die_empty]

I'm curious that this could be some solution for gambling addiction of someone we know?

Since he is an adult, he would have to go through the process of self-exclusion or ban himself. You can only force casinos or gambling platforms to ban him if you can bring documents or medical reports proving that he is suffering from gambling addiction. The document might also include recommendations that restricting him would help him become clean.

However, I think the best option will be to perssuade that you family member to seek professional help. This is because even if he is banned in all registered casinos, he would seek means to access unregistered gambling platforms. Helping him to change his gambling attitude would be more effective than forcing him to quit.

[Alex077]

~I'm curious that this could be some solution for gambling addiction of someone we know?

The fact your family member has gambling addiction must be confirmed by a specialist, not by other family members

In fact these incidents bring up a deeper problem. If we mix any kind of financial responsibility with our gambling then the results will always be bad. Because mixing family or social life with gambling can create an external pressure. As a result our decision making ability could be destroyed

Speaking for myself I always keep gambling money completely separate from life expenses. I never touch rent, bills or savings to manage gambling expenses. If I ever decide to make a large deposit I maintain a cooling off period of 24-48 hours before the deposit. As a result the chances of making mistakes on my own, I mean tilt-based mistakes are greatly reduced. So my family don't need to interrupt into my gambling life.