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August 07, 2026, 12:41:37 PM
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This Stigma is still inherent in my country that goods from China are mostly considered low quality they target consumers at low prices, even though there are still many in this interest maybe only for the lower classes who can afford it.

While goods from the US are always considered luxury and high quality goods, for example iPhones and other electronic goods, I also like brands from the US the best than China. Hahaha
I would not consider all goods from China is bad, there are still many high-quality with new innovations even in terms of its technology is now increasing, China now controls the market almost all over the world.
Is it possible for China to produce goods there because of lower wages?

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August 07, 2026, 02:33:57 PM
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Does America just sell a dream in a pretty package? No, that's not true. I like Apple products. It's a good brand that hasn't just made a name for itself. They have truly amazing functionality. Yes, the prices are a bit steep, but they're definitely worth it.

I have nothing bad to say about products made in China. I'm currently writing this from a Huawei laptop. I've been using their devices for several years and I'm happy with everything.
What you said makes perfect sense, as I also enjoy using American products specifically those from California, like HP (Hewlett-Packard). I have been using an HP gaming laptop for nearly six years now. Furthermore, earlier this year specifically around New Year's in January 2026 I purchased two Apple products: the iPhone 17 Pro Max in Cosmic Orange. It is undeniable that the quality of American products is truly in a league of its own, though generally speaking, I don't see significant downsides to Chinese products either, as they are certainly capable of competing on price in the global market.

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August 07, 2026, 03:01:07 PM
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Do you think America is selling brands while China is selling for consumers, or do you think both countries are doing the same thing in different ways?

Americans have always been big on branding as that's what they build their whole companies around while China has been focused on supplying the goods to customers in their bunks. China do have some luxury brands but they focus more on quantity as they try the common man better while being affordable but that can't be said about the Americans.

With the Americans, you can see their branding in everything starting from their food to anything you can think about. They even call themselves the best at things they aren't even anywhere near the best and this has been working for them. They won't stop now as they're making money and even being valued more than the Chinese companies that's producing for the consumers in their masses and shipping to other countries.

The branding from the Americans will never stop since people prefer looking good over actually being it. Every country has their target audience and as such they're serving their customer's right so it's left for you to decide which one you patronize. What everyone just need to know is that you might be overpaying (in disguise of branding) when you buy from the Americans because they were actually MADE IN CHINA.

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August 07, 2026, 03:24:01 PM
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Am I seeing this wrongly?

Do you think America is selling brands while China is selling for consumers, or do you think both countries are doing the same thing in different ways?
Indeed, selling cheap junk to consumers is definitely better than selling high quality and expensive brands. After all, the Chinese products are known for their reliability and long-term prospects. I can only imagine how that "cheap" coffee was made and using what ingredients and processes. Roll Eyes While the claim that brands are strong in America is true and that selling is important, the claim that Chinese products are good because they love customers is a fallacious absurdity. This just shows how inexperienced in life you are, and how you have never had contact with high quality products from either America or Europe. Across any given industry and category of products aside from some recent cases of hardware like smartphones, everything that China makes is junk. Even the most expensive Chinese junk is worse than cheap American products.

Americans have always been big on branding as that's what they build their whole companies around while China has been focused on supplying the goods to customers in their bunks. China do have some luxury brands but they focus more on quantity as they try the common man better while being affordable but that can't be said about the Americans.
Quantity is shit when all the products are cheap junk.

The branding from the Americans will never stop since people prefer looking good over actually being it. Every country has their target audience and as such they're serving their customer's right so it's left for you to decide which one you patronize. What everyone just need to know is that you might be overpaying (in disguise of branding) when you buy from the Americans because they were actually MADE IN CHINA.
This is a separate case and not related to the comparison. Products that were actually made in China using Chinese-level manufacturing quality control are not to be considered "American" product, regardless of whether they are advertised as such. You can't make a false comparison using products that are not actually American.

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August 07, 2026, 03:38:19 PM
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This Stigma is still inherent in my country that goods from China are mostly considered low quality they target consumers at low prices, even though there are still many in this interest maybe only for the lower classes who can afford it.

While goods from the US are always considered luxury and high quality goods, for example iPhones and other electronic goods, I also like brands from the US the best than China. Hahaha
I would not consider all goods from China is bad, there are still many high-quality with new innovations even in terms of its technology is now increasing, China now controls the market almost all over the world.
Is it possible for China to produce goods there because of lower wages?

But keep in mind that most US goods are assembled and manufactured in China. If you use an iphone, you will see "made in China" right on the box.

Most people are only using their cheaper product. Very few are willing to spend money on their high end products, yet they are quick to assume that all Chinese goods have the same level of quality. In my opinion, looking down on Chinese goods is mostly based on prejudice rather than actual experience.

China is the world's factory and produces all kinds of goods at different quality levels. The cheap products you usually see are just one part of the market and cannot represent Chinese goods as a whole.

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Am I seeing this wrongly?

Do you think America is selling brands while China is selling for consumers, or do you think both countries are doing the same thing in different ways?

I can surely said China is latecomer advantage country,with applied catch up industrialization strategy, China can adopt technologies and business models that have been proven successful from countries that developed earlier. Simply said China is at different stage of economic developmentor both US and China at a different level of competitive advantage.

We can explain China economy development using Michael Porter economic development stage

  • Factor driven, got advantaged from cheap labour or natural resources with its comodity based economy
  • Investment driven, got advantages from investment, manufacture, infrastructure and export, we see it at China from 1980 - 2020. China government promoted industrial zone, port, railways, electricity, export, foreign investment with priority creating as many as job opportunity because China has too many mouths to feed. As long as project generated foreign exchange, created job and strengthened domestic industry, government will support it financially.
  • Innovation driven, got advantages from technology, patents, SI, chips, software,and brands. For decades US on this position

At the meantime, i think China on the transition from investment driven to innovation driven, many China product like Huawei, BYD and DJI, CATL be a product leader, which mean China moving up value chain.
So China studied the way previously adopted by the US, Japan, South Korea, and Europe, then accelerated or modified them through industrial policy and state support. China seems to be following a similar path, but at a faster pace and with stronger state support. What we are currently seeing with Huawei, BYD, Xiaomi, or DJI may well be a stage that US companies historically went through before becoming global premium brands. Now China become leader who filed for a patent as prove China transition development stage.

https://www.wipo.int/en/ipfactsandfigures/patents
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/340074047_Porter_model_of_economic_development_at_the_back_of_an_envelope
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/260249250_The_Stages_of_Economic_Development_from_an_Opportunity_Perspective_Rostow_Extended

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August 07, 2026, 06:34:09 PM
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Chinese products are very flexible. Especially from China you can get all kinds of products and all kinds of quality products. They make products for the rich, middle class and poor. They can make all kinds of quality products. They are also much more advanced technologically. That is why the USA has banned them in many section . So that they cannot get ahead of the USA in business. But China is still continuing their domination. And the companies of the USA mainly run with their own brand name and identity. Especially the people of the elite class use the products of the USA. But the same type of products or gadgets are also available in China, and in their case, China is making better useful products at a relatively low price. But some people give more importance to the brand and some people give more importance to the price and usefulness. In this regard, both the USA and China are ahead in two ways. However, the popularity of Chinese products is increasing a lot more than that of the USA worldwide.
One thing that I've largely noticed and observed is that the products that you can find within China are actually of amazing quality, but some products that are exported to other countries might not be that good quality-wise. Now there could be two reasons for that. The first one is that there are both good companies that create very good quality products, and there are also companies that create low-quality products that they can sell or export for cheap prices to countries, but that's only because those countries or vendors who import these products also want low-quality and cheap products so that they can have good profit margins when they sell those products.

So many people run online stores these days, either do dropshipping or import and sell products, and believe me, most of these products are not worth what they are being sold for. The sellers buy them at cheap prices from companies because they get huge discounts when they buy them in lots, and then they sell them at very high prices within their countries because people don't know much about quality of those products.

So, I think this is the actual reality.

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August 07, 2026, 09:37:05 PM
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But keep in mind that most US goods are assembled and manufactured in China. If you use an iphone, you will see "made in China" right on the box.

Most people are only using their cheaper product. Very few are willing to spend money on their high end products, yet they are quick to assume that all Chinese goods have the same level of quality. In my opinion, looking down on Chinese goods is mostly based on prejudice rather than actual experience.

China is the world's factory and produces all kinds of goods at different quality levels. The cheap products you usually see are just one part of the market and cannot represent Chinese goods as a whole.
Hahaha that's right, goods from Apple are produced in China because the level of wages there is cheaper and able to finish en masse so this is what Apple chooses.
- https://www.aei.org/research-products/report/apples-supply-chain-economic-and-geopolitical-implications/
The main thing is that China is able to make whatever goods they produce in large quantities, including some brand name shoes that are also produced in china.

This is not a prejudice but a stigma for many people, but indeed buying goods produced in China as long as the quality is branded then the product is also good, of course the price is not cheap.
Almost 90% of the products I use at home, including kitchen appliances from China, are still satisfactory overall at a low price.

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August 07, 2026, 10:50:32 PM
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This Stigma is still inherent in my country that goods from China are mostly considered low quality they target consumers at low prices, even though there are still many in this interest maybe only for the lower classes who can afford it.

While goods from the US are always considered luxury and high quality goods, for example iPhones and other electronic goods, I also like brands from the US the best than China. Hahaha
I would not consider all goods from China is bad, there are still many high-quality with new innovations even in terms of its technology is now increasing, China now controls the market almost all over the world.
Is it possible for China to produce goods there because of lower wages?
Admittedly, initially labor expenses were becoming an important factor in the choice of relocation to a factory. The changes in China to be less of a low cost producer and more of a technological center have, however, developed at a very high rate. Its main strengths now are its integration of the component suppliers, technical know how and simplicity of day to day logistics which allows it to be at any standards of the world commercial brand, in terms of quality.


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August 07, 2026, 11:26:29 PM
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This Stigma is still inherent in my country that goods from China are mostly considered low quality they target consumers at low prices, even though there are still many in this interest maybe only for the lower classes who can afford it.

While goods from the US are always considered luxury and high quality goods, for example iPhones and other electronic goods, I also like brands from the US the best than China. Hahaha
I would not consider all goods from China is bad, there are still many high-quality with new innovations even in terms of its technology is now increasing, China now controls the market almost all over the world.
Is it possible for China to produce goods there because of lower wages?

Yeah, that is pretty accurate. America sells the brand name, China sells the product itself. People pay extra for that American label because of the reputation built over time. But China is not just about cheap stuff anymore. They have stepped up their game in tech and quality. The gap is closing  and honestly, even the big brands are now made there anyway. And that lower wage argument does not hold as much weight now. China's wages have gone up, but they have built such a massive production system that they can still offer competitive prices while improving quality. It is also about mindset. The US focuses on marketing and storytelling, while China focuses on volume and efficiency. Both approaches work, but they appeal to different markets.

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This Stigma is still inherent in my country that goods from China are mostly considered low quality they target consumers at low prices, even though there are still many in this interest maybe only for the lower classes who can afford it.

While goods from the US are always considered luxury and high quality goods, for example iPhones and other electronic goods, I also like brands from the US the best than China. Hahaha
I would not consider all goods from China is bad, there are still many high-quality with new innovations even in terms of its technology is now increasing, China now controls the market almost all over the world.
Is it possible for China to produce goods there because of lower wages?
That stigma or conclusion is true but that comes with a reason. In China its clear that there are different classes of citizens, the low and higher level but both deserves to enjoy the benefits of life, and to make it work they try to produce such that an average citizen can still afford but that does not mean a high quality product cannot be seen as a Chinese product.
Due to the kind of balanced economy experienced over there US, production is done with believe of quality instead of quantity because they know all can afford it and also for the protection of the country's name.

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