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July 02, 2026, 09:32:50 PM
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We should know that ponzi scheme doesn't just operate like that without developing its own strategy they will use to captivate us to attract our attention and steal from us.

All they will do is to ensure that the draw your attention to commitment of paying some particular amount to tie you down and later begin to demand for more in other for you to be able to withdraw your entire money back, the more you do the higher the cost and loss, and the more you get tied to them, but all this does not exist in the Bitcoin network, except you don't know what to do.

But they called Saylor Bitcoin reserve as Strategy Reserve and he is valuable and influential in cross market but he doesn't make noise that much. Although, this steps humbled him. If he really wanted to sell Bitcoin, he would have done that before now, I have said this before strategy plans is to become world Bitcoin reserve, he is not that dumb that he will sell millions he accumulated to billions because he want to save some small dividends for holders.

If there is a way that Saylor will source for more usd reserve and source for the money where he is going to feel secure, he will tell you everything that Bitcoin will remain untouched but this is to keep their obligations and make sure they fulfills the dividends promised. However, I have not seen how he is going to keep the STRC price juicy for long, the price has not made good recovery like that to say but the STRC should do well this year otherwise that's a more reason.

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July 02, 2026, 09:36:13 PM
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Whether you like it or not is your choice but these are risky investments. A company buying BTC with the investors money and using the profit to give back what it has owned. Its similar to "give me your money, I will double it back".

I would never suggest someone to invest in such companies or buy their shares. Buying bitcoin is much safer instead, but people have a notion that since the BTC they are not directly buying, they are devoid of it the risks it pose, which is a fundamental mistake.

Any company will go down, the creators of the scheme may have left by then but your money will get stuck at some point.
Some people don't see it that way. They just want the profits without consideration of the consequences on a long term scale.

We know that it's easier to catch them with sweet lies which will happen in a short time. People want to make profits fast, but don't look for the flaws that sits in their faces.

Scam investments dont even need too much of work to be done. Just a few people to run the front end, some at the back end and they are good to go. It now lies on us to identify these scams on time and avoid having anything to do with them.

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July 02, 2026, 10:46:00 PM
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Whether you like it or not is your choice but these are risky investments. A company buying BTC with the investors money and using the profit to give back what it has owned. Its similar to "give me your money, I will double it back".

I would never suggest someone to invest in such companies or buy their shares. Buying bitcoin is much safer instead, but people have a notion that since the BTC they are not directly buying, they are devoid of it the risks it pose, which is a fundamental mistake.

Any company will go down, the creators of the scheme may have left by then but your money will get stuck at some point.
Some people don't see it that way. They just want the profits without consideration of the consequences on a long term scale.

We know that it's easier to catch them with sweet lies which will happen in a short time. People want to make profits fast, but don't look for the flaws that sits in their faces.

Scam investments dont even need too much of work to be done. Just a few people to run the front end, some at the back end and they are good to go. It now lies on us to identify these scams on time and avoid having anything to do with them.
The urge to gain fast wealth usually causes human being to forget of the larger perils involved. Sweet promises are what scamster now to capitalize on these emotions. I think the first step to ensuring safety with your money is to be vigilant. It is important to analyse every step well, before investing to avoid trapping in a criminal net that may destroy the assets of an investor.

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July 03, 2026, 04:15:17 AM
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Wait, are we talking about Michael Saylor and MicroStrategy? Because he sold a small portion of BTC to pay dividends. Whether you're talking about Saylor or not, yeah, Ponzi works like that. They need initial capital to pay the early users in the system until new users join and are able to pay the earlier users. And by then, the system runs itself until no more fresh money is injected into the system.

However, if you think what Saylor did by selling BTC to pay dividends is a Ponzi scheme, I don't agree with you. For me, it's just like property investors who do the loop. They build properties, then use them as collateral to get loans, then use the money to buy or build more properties. There's also interest they should pay to the bank, "the investors". As long as the property price rises, it would work well. But if not, the pressure becomes bigger from the negative capital gain and the interest that still needs to be paid. IMO, this is not a Ponzi scheme. It's just a system that relies heavily on market trust and the BTC price itself.

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July 03, 2026, 04:51:27 AM
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Wait, are we talking about Michael Saylor and MicroStrategy? Because he sold a small portion of BTC to pay dividends. Whether you're talking about Saylor or not, yeah, Ponzi works like that. They need initial capital to pay the early users in the system until new users join and are able to pay the earlier users. And by then, the system runs itself until no more fresh money is injected into the system.

However, if you think what Saylor did by selling BTC to pay dividends is a Ponzi scheme, I don't agree with you. For me, it's just like property investors who do the loop. They build properties, then use them as collateral to get loans, then use the money to buy or build more properties. There's also interest they should pay to the bank, "the investors". As long as the property price rises, it would work well. But if not, the pressure becomes bigger from the negative capital gain and the interest that still needs to be paid. IMO, this is not a Ponzi scheme. It's just a system that relies heavily on market trust and the BTC price itself.

A lot of people called it ponzi because the yield distributed isn't sustaining, coming from new buyers and expecting 30% CAGR from Bitcoin they bought.

They are paying dividend from their cash reserve, not from a productive capital and the fact that they give out above average yield is concerning.

Whether you call it ponzi or not, one fact stands, the entire thing isn't sustainable.

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July 03, 2026, 05:06:35 PM
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Scam investments dont even need too much of work to be done. Just a few people to run the front end, some at the back end and they are good to go. It now lies on us to identify these scams on time and avoid having anything to do with them.

I might agree, but it all comes down to how much confidence we have in their reputation. If our research results are more thorough, I think we'll definitely find any irregularities, meaning we're filtering the data and information related to the matter.

Personally, I'll just stick to what's clear and certain, and adding to the burden by making hasty investment decisions will also end badly for us in the long run.

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July 03, 2026, 08:38:37 PM
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The urge to gain fast wealth usually causes human being to forget of the larger perils involved. Sweet promises are what scamster now to capitalize on these emotions. I think the first step to ensuring safety with your money is to be vigilant. It is important to analyse every step well, before investing to avoid trapping in a criminal net that may destroy the assets of an investor.
I’ve spent a lot of time to study the behavioral patterns of scammers and fraudsters, and I’ve been able to learn many things. One of those things that I’ve learned is that one should always question anything and everything, especially if it’s coming from some random folks online, sometimes it could even be from someone you know personally, it’s not longer just online, people now target their victims physically, could be your next door neighbor, your friend from way back in school days or just an acquaintance. Whatever the case may be, if the opportunity has to do with money, sometimes even if they tell you that you don’t need to invest any amount of money, it could end up being just a trap to lure you into investing or putting in your money later on.

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