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[BitBrainers]

Everyone in this thread has landed on basically the same answer, separate the money, DCA with what's actually spare, keep an emergency fund untouched. That advice is correct. But here's what I actually saw play out for years on a brokerage desk: most of the people who ended up selling at the worst possible moment never had an emergency fund in the first place, they bought with money that was already spoken for and called it "long term" because that's what they wanted to believe. Some did have the fund and still had to sell anyway, because life doesn't check your portfolio before it throws something at you, and that's not a planning failure, that's just life. DCA is still the right call either way. It's the only strategy that doesn't require you to guess right about timing, and it's the only one that survives contact with real emergencies, planned or not. The cash flow discipline everyone's talking about here is the whole game. Most people nod along with it and never actually build it, because building it is boring and buying the dip isn't.

[Awaklara]

Then the problem is not with Bitcoin, but with the investor’s plan.

When it comes to investing, having a plan is definitely very important. This also includes planning how to manage your budget. Many people are interested in investing in Bitcoin but forget to manage their finances first. So basically, they’re allocating investments without a plan. Anyone who wants to feel at ease while investing should definitely pay attention to and calculate the amount they can invest. This might be even more important for those who have a limited investment budget.

[Oshio-man]

If truly you want to invest in bitcoin,  you need to talk about the funds before thinking when to purchase bitcoin and when not to purchase because there is a particular price bitcoin will get to, that will make you to stop not to purchase bitcoin because it will not allow you to purchase huge amount of bitcoin you want to hold for future, there are some that want to learn first to have the knowledge of bitcoin before they will start saving funds that will make them to be bold to invest in bitcoin and hold for long term to achieve their purpose.

[Obim34]

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Life sometimes can be unplanned, the unexpected happening. Have you also thought about it, what about when cash flow drops while you already budget and calculated specific amounts to DCA in the long run? It's not just about monitoring cash flow, it is about adjusting and directing cash flow in a way you wouldn't be affected, both for the short term and long term.

[I_Anime]

This is why i say bitcoin investment is not as simple as many sees it , there are a lot of things you should be mindful of as an bitcoin investor. Like how you allocate your funds, in accordance to your cashflow, knowing your cashflow out and cashflow in , knowing how to break down your earning using percentages. Some percentage for expenses, some for emergency while some for your investment ( which are gotten from your discretionary income).

[Orpichukwu]

When discussing Bitcoin, we often focus on the price. Is the price low or high now, is there a dip coming, is it better to buy now or should we wait? These are natural questions. But I think a more important question for an ordinary investor is: How much money can I actually spend to accumulate Bitcoin for a long time, so that I don’t have to sell it halfway through? Because Bitcoin can be a strong asset in the long run, but its price is very volatile in the short run. If someone buys Bitcoin with the money they need, they are actually adding the risk to their personal life along with the market risk. If the price drops, they may become stressed, and if an emergency arises, they will have to sell at a loss. Then the problem is not with Bitcoin, but with the investor’s plan.

This, you stated, is part of the risk assessment whenever one wants to make an investment decision, not just with Bitcoin. I don’t know how some can focus only on the positivities of an investment without thinking about what will happen and their plans if their investment is taking a wrong turn, which is exactly what those who focus only on price and best buying time do.

[alastantiger]

Life sometimes can be unplanned, the unexpected happening. Have you also thought about it, what about when cash flow drops while you already budget and calculated specific amounts to DCA in the long run? It's not just about monitoring cash flow, it is about adjusting and directing cash flow in a way you wouldn't be affected, both for the short term and long term.

This reason why we say you should not invest in Bitcoin in a rush instead you should have planned out your strategy on how you are going to invest in Bitcoin without having to rely on money that isn't guaranteed to you yet. Don't use future promise to invest in Bitcoin instead know how every cent is going to be giving to you at a particular time so that you can be sure that you are going to receive your salary or wages and then you budget a portion of them to be invested in Bitcoin.

People that are employed are those that are privileged to be good investors because they can DCA into Bitcoin without having to struggle unlike people that don't have a steady flow of income as investing in Bitcoin becomes a difficult challenge for them and this make it almost impossible for them to invest unless they are the type that are determined to buy Bitcoin and they work towards achieving this.

[STT]

Most people should be do regular investing, I wouldn't call it investment as you are still closer to speculator and its better to recognize that you will not be receiving a return on your 'investment' until the point of sale so it is speculation as I see it.
   Especially right now the BTC market is indecisive and challenged, I believe the progression from this price will be extended giving a backing to time to invest rather then the idea of picking an ideal price point or precise time to buy.  Regular invest over time involves your capital in this quarter and year you have a better chance to hit the right price area then hoping to catch the bottom price just now.
   Also BTC moves so much you dont have to buy an absolute low, any period and placement such as now where price is halved is a good prospect.

[LogitechMouse]

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Many investors want to be rich overnight, and they are ready to invest all they have at once in Bitcoin, not thinking about what life can throw at them at any point, if they should invest all in Bitcoin without saving for an emergency.

We have seen the situation of how many investors sell their Bitcoin at a loss because of life rising issues they face. If they had known, or have lectured about investing with little they have, they wouldn't have to sell at a loss. That makes it advisable for us to tell people not to forget to save up for an emergency as they are investing in Bitcoin because there are investors who are focused on the profits they stand to gain each time they invest in Bitcoin.

That mindset has been instilled towards the investors for years, and that's becoming a problem already. The fact that they think that "they can become rich overnight" is one reason why many are losing money. Some are even going and invest into new meme coins because they have this kind of mindset, and yes that could be possible, but I mean what are the chances that it will happen.

We've seen investors going all-in on investing into Bitcoin, and I don't see anything wrong with it TBH. The problem is that majority of them doesn't even have a Plan B just in case things don't go the way they wanted to. As for emergency funds, this for me is a MUST because we don't know when that "emergency" could happen, and we might end up liquidating all of our assets even though they're at a loss just to have money to use.

Please don't go all-in on investing into Bitcoin. Learn money management. Learn how to portion your money, and of course, learn when to buy Bitcoin as well.

[maydna]

Investors needs preparing money to accumulate Bitcoin and determine how long they will do that. Investors must have plans to starts and running Bitcoin investment so the investment will not disrupt if they have an urgent situation. They know urgent situation can comes anytime but if they prepare it well, they will not face a problem and their Bitcoin investment will still running and solve the urgent situation. Most new investors don't think seriously about this and just buy at dip but they don't prepare other money to allocating in all their needs.

[AVE5]

When discussing Bitcoin, we often focus on the price. Is the price low or high now, is there a dip coming, is it better to buy now or should we wait? These are natural questions. But I think a more important question for an ordinary investor is: How much money can I actually spend to accumulate Bitcoin for a long time, so that I don’t have to sell it halfway through? Because Bitcoin can be a strong asset in the long run, but its price is very volatile in the short run. If someone buys Bitcoin with the money they need, they are actually adding the risk to their personal life along with the market risk. If the price drops, they may become stressed, and if an emergency arises, they will have to sell at a loss. Then the problem is not with Bitcoin, but with the investor’s plan.

Of course all the ramifications listed here are all important to be considered before and while investing in bitcoin.
The bitcoin market is psychologically and emotionally driven, so every investors have to look at the dimensions that'd convince them to be positively minded. The risks is always that behavioral sentiment to think your personal emotions can control the price to your will and the error in overconfidence to invest without considering the set aside of emergency funds while you're hopeful to sell at a higher price to take profits within the short term.
Most valuable aspects to consider in bitcoin investment is accumulation process, long term goal and your emergency funds.
Just a glance to the need to have an emergency fund is for a back up in case of financial need to solve immediate needs so that you don't need to sell on pressure. That's why it's adviced to invest with discretionary incomes.

[fuguebtc]

This is why i say bitcoin investment is not as simple as many sees it , there are a lot of things you should be mindful of as an bitcoin investor. Like how you allocate your funds, in accordance to your cashflow, knowing your cashflow out and cashflow in , knowing how to break down your earning using percentages. Some percentage for expenses, some for emergency while some for your investment ( which are gotten from your discretionary income).

No, investing in Bitcoin is actually quite simple.  We should not complicate thing more than necessary.

Bitcoin is like any other investment.  It is volatile, risky and unpredictable. So all we need to do is invest money that we can afford to lose.


As for capital allocation and managing cash inflow and outflow...I would call that personal financial management. In my opinion, this is basic financial knowledge that everyone needs to know, even if they do not invest in bitcoin. Because it will be very difficult to have a stable life if you do not know  how to manage your money.

[Tmoonz]

When discussing Bitcoin, we often focus on the price. Is the price low or high now, is there a dip coming, is it better to buy now or should we wait? These are natural questions. But I think a more important question for an ordinary investor is: How much money can I actually spend to accumulate Bitcoin for a long time, so that I don’t have to sell it halfway through? Because Bitcoin can be a strong asset in the long run, but its price is very volatile in the short run. If someone buys Bitcoin with the money they need, they are actually adding the risk to their personal life along with the market risk. If the price drops, they may become stressed, and if an emergency arises, they will have to sell at a loss. Then the problem is not with Bitcoin, but with the investor’s plan.

Surely there are those who makes this mistake, it can be called misplaced priority and of course it will definitely have a consequence, understanding one cash flow and management is very crucial to everyone and it can be over emphasized because of it's importance, investing in Bitcoin can be the right thing to do but when done at the wrong time because of lack of cash flow management can result in maybe loss, bitcoin is not risk free hence anyone buying with the money they needed in the short term has just added another layer of risk which they may likely not be able to survive from it in the long run, Bitcoin has never been the problem rather people approaching it wrongly.

[el kaka22]

The problem is that we are not going to see this to be easy because cash flow is not easy for a lot of people.
I may end up buying some more for the first time in a long while because I am capable of actually putting some money aside. But that is not common for many people and moreover all the odds for this cash flow theory, are getting eliminated when you opt for long term investing.

So, for a classic investor who is ready to ignore all the short term ups and downs and strongly believing into all the fundamentals of bitcoin, all the times are good to go for DCA. For me, so far slow and steady with bitcoin has been working marvellously hence not going to mind the other aspects of market dynamics which are still meant only for traders in my understanding.

[Don Saga]

When discussing Bitcoin, we often focus on the price. Is the price low or high now, is there a dip coming, is it better to buy now or should we wait? These are natural questions. But I think a more important question for an ordinary investor is: How much money can I actually spend to accumulate Bitcoin for a long time, so that I don’t have to sell it halfway through? Because Bitcoin can be a strong asset in the long run, but its price is very volatile in the short run. If someone buys Bitcoin with the money they need, they are actually adding the risk to their personal life along with the market risk. If the price drops, they may become stressed, and if an emergency arises, they will have to sell at a loss. Then the problem is not with Bitcoin, but with the investor’s plan.

Every investment needs a plan and with Bitcoin, understanding the market structure is as important as deciding the state of your investment (profit or loss). This should be the reason why anyone new to bitcoin investment is advised never to buy at distress but rather using discretionary funds to buy bitcoin, that way there is less pressure when the market fumbles.

You cannot expect the market to always move in your favor, some fundamentals could affect the price of bitcoin and that could be unforseen so its best to have this understanding in mind before investing. Bitcoin is not a quick-profit-return project, it rewards the long term holders and leave the traders at profit or loss due to its volatility.

[m2017]

When discussing Bitcoin, we often focus on the price.

Every investor is focused on price, because his profits and losses depend on it.

Is the price low or high now, is there a dip coming, is it better to buy now or should we wait? These are natural questions.

These natural questions, in fact, don't matter in the long term, because over a period of years, investing in bitcoin will turn out to be profitable (at least, this scheme has been “working” for the last decade and a half).

But I think a more important question for an ordinary investor is: How much money can I actually spend to accumulate Bitcoin for a long time, so that I don’t have to sell it halfway through?

Are there any not ordinary investors? What do they look like?

In other words, this could be called "extra or free" money, the investment of which will not in any way affect one's current standard of living or financial well-being.

Because Bitcoin can be a strong asset in the long run, but its price is very volatile in the short run.

Taking this into account, it is necessary to develop an individual investment plan so that don't have to withdraw money invested in bitcoin halfway through with losses (or insufficient profit).

If someone buys Bitcoin with the money they need, they are actually adding the risk to their personal life along with the market risk.

This is not a wise move, as any money becomes "frozen" in a financial asset for the duration of the investment, and it is highly undesirable (and financially dangerous) to use the money needed in such cases.

Only very risky and inexperienced investors, hoping for easy and quick profits, would act this way, which could backfire.

If the price drops, they may become stressed, and if an emergency arises, they will have to sell at a loss.

Then this is not an investor, but a crypto-adventurer (with losses).

Then the problem is not with Bitcoin, but with the investor’s plan.

The problem can't be in bitcoin, because it is only a financial instrument, the lack of knowledge of how to use which leads to negative results.

[tabas]

Many investors effed up with their plans because they haven't seen the potential future of what can happen to them personally while being invested. They don't foresee themselves spending the bitcoin they have bought at times in need. Because they thought that it will never happen but, when there's no one for them to save them from these troubles. That's the start of them realizing that cash flow is king on investing. Even the business owners are saying this, so it might as well be applied to investing because it gives us more flexibility if ever we are in need of cash.

[lovesmayfamilis]

For many, the problem is that they are not ready to learn about any profitable strategies or planned investments, having correctly calculated their monetary "forces." Many people do not even get to the point of recognizing that Bitcoin may change its growth at some point and, on the contrary, begin to show those results that many "mature" investors are not ready for. As a result, there are those who either calculated everything clearly and began to systematically use everything that is offered, both the DCA and the reserve fund, or those who understand that they can withstand a falling market without panicking and without turning their lives into a drama.

[Marvelockg]

When discussing Bitcoin, we often focus on the price. Is the price low or high now, is there a dip coming, is it better to buy now or should we wait? These are natural questions. But I think a more important question for an ordinary investor is: How much money can I actually spend to accumulate Bitcoin for a long time, so that I don’t have to sell it halfway through? Because Bitcoin can be a strong asset in the long run, but its price is very volatile in the short run. If someone buys Bitcoin with the money they need, they are actually adding the risk to their personal life along with the market risk. If the price drops, they may become stressed, and if an emergency arises, they will have to sell at a loss. Then the problem is not with Bitcoin, but with the investor’s plan.

This, you stated, is part of the risk assessment whenever one wants to make an investment decision, not just with Bitcoin. I don’t know how some can focus only on the positivities of an investment without thinking about what will happen and their plans if their investment is taking a wrong turn, which is exactly what those who focus only on price and best buying time do.

What brings about a balanced start into an investors investment journey is the setting of structures that protects your asset even before you get started in your investment journey. without some fundamental plans on ground, an investor will find it extremely difficult to cope with his investment considering that uncertainty is an integral part of an investors reality. your cash flow is the basics of them all because without proper cash flow, investing becomes almost impossible. if your cash flow is sorted out, then other things like emergency funds follows. neglecting all these and just using all the spare income you have for your initial investment will become a sure recipe for selling your asset at loss.
 

[Pandu Geddon]

If the price drops, they may become stressed, and if an emergency arises, they will have to sell at a loss. Then the problem is not with Bitcoin, but with the investor’s plan.

Those who already have experience in Bitcoin investment certainly have better plans. Good money management can help investors reach the investment goals they set. We know some beginners might not really think about this. They assume that money they don’t use is leftover money they can invest. In fact, in terms of financial management, they should also set aside some for an emergency fund. If financial management is good, then the investment plan might actually reach its target.