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April 05, 2014, 09:08:42 PM
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Phenomenal rise of Bitcoin economy would actually mean fall of the traditional banking and lending systems. Berkshire Hathaway (Warren Buffett's company) is heavily invested in Banking and financial sector. Take a look at Berkshire Hathaway's portfolio here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assets_owned_by_Berkshire_Hathaway

Another reason could be that Warren Buffett is a very traditional, old-school investor who probably does not recognize the importance of investing in new technologies. By looking at his portfolio, you will notice that Berkshire Hathaway does not own any stake in Microsoft, Google, Cisco or any other prominent tech company (except IBM which was founded back in 1911) despite the fact that these tech investments have been performing best over the past two decades.

That says it all..!

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April 05, 2014, 09:18:11 PM
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I read his book The snowball of life (very interesting book btw) in which he explains it in short: he only invests in companies he understands and have a (potentially) very broad market. He doesn't invest in software, but does in beverages, food, transport, etc.

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April 05, 2014, 09:19:09 PM
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Rich people always, without exception, benefit from the fiat money system

Fiat is a redistribution mechanism from hard working people to rich people. This is achieved via loans that are then leveraged to enslave people as tenants or workers.

Sure a gold based system also allows for rich and poor people, but not on the same order of magnitude. You cannot create 1000 ounces of gold from thin air, then build a factory or an apartment block, to let human cattle aka goyim, work for you.

IS FIAT GOOD FOR YOU?

If your investment income (interest, dividends, rent) is higher than your living expenses, then yes it is.

It is the 1% vs the 99% plain and simple. Angry

PS W.B. is a great investor no question. But ask yourself, how can the price of a company that he bought (e.g. Bank of America) go up so much? The price could only explode because there is so much liquidity. So again the creation of money from thin air makes the rich richer, while poor people cannot afford to buy large quantities of stocks, and remain poor.

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April 05, 2014, 09:22:15 PM
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Here's what Warren Buffet had to say about Bitcoin:

to see the video, just Google

"Buffett blasts bitcoin as 'mirage':" 

The way he talked gives an impression that he does not have full understanding of Bitcoin.

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April 05, 2014, 09:24:37 PM
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An old man who prefers not to invest in tech stuff says he doesn't want to invest in bitcoin and suddenly he's an enemy.

He'll have to finance his own bunker when the end times come because surely his face is on the dartboard of every libertarian's survival compound now.

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April 05, 2014, 09:25:14 PM
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Phenomenal rise of Bitcoin economy would actually mean fall of the traditional banking and lending systems. Berkshire Hathaway (Warren Buffett's company) is heavily invested in Banking and financial sector. Take a look at Berkshire Hathaway's portfolio here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assets_owned_by_Berkshire_Hathaway

Another reason could be that Warren Buffett is a very traditional, old-school investor who probably does not recognize the importance of investing in new technologies. By looking at his portfolio, you will notice that Berkshire Hathaway does not own any stake in Microsoft, Google, Cisco or any other prominent tech company (except IBM which was founded back in 1911) despite the fact that these tech investments have been performing best over the past two decades.

That says it all..!

LoLz ...u got the basic and u know why it is buy time Smiley

Let others troll becoz Buffet said it is a bad investment Wink

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April 05, 2014, 09:26:32 PM
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WB is not a bad guy in fact he admitted on several occasions that something is wrong with the system

He did not even state that Bitcoin was a bad thing, just that it was doomed. He may be right. He thinks the system is flawed, but may succeed in killing Bitcoin.

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April 05, 2014, 09:42:42 PM
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Buffett is a good smart investor, but it doesn't mean anything he invested in will succeed, and anything he did not invest in will fail. It has been said above that Buffett does not like investing in technologies, may be he just doesn't understand them. Buffett has not invested in any smartphone companies, see how successful smartphones are now.
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April 05, 2014, 09:56:34 PM
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the OP's opinion is valid. but there could be a different reason.

imagine you found out that a plot of land could potentially hold alot of gold. and the land is up for auction. one thing you would do is calculate its true potential and then look at the initial costs to get involved.

then what you would do is notice if other potential parties are showing interest.. and ofcourse tell them that the land may contain landmines, was a hazardous chemical disposal site. has no permissions for digging or construction.. you would find any excuse you can to persuade others to not bid for that land to avoid the competition of a bidding war, costing you more to get that land.

same goes for bitcoin. instead of him buying $10k of btc a day to try keeping a stable price of sub $600, with little to no competition. if he told everyone it was a great investment. major finance teams would be buying it up. and he would then have to pay $1200, $2k, $3k per bitcoin, costing him dearly.

the only time you see rich people tell the general public that its a good time to buy or there are positives to buy.. is the time these rich people are ready to sell.

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April 06, 2014, 01:07:00 PM
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the OP's opinion is valid. but there could be a different reason.

imagine you found out that a plot of land could potentially hold alot of gold. and the land is up for auction. one thing you would do is calculate its true potential and then look at the initial costs to get involved.

then what you would do is notice if other potential parties are showing interest.. and ofcourse tell them that the land may contain landmines, was a hazardous chemical disposal site. has no permissions for digging or construction.. you would find any excuse you can to persuade others to not bid for that land to avoid the competition of a bidding war, costing you more to get that land.

same goes for bitcoin. instead of him buying $10k of btc a day to try keeping a stable price of sub $600, with little to no competition. if he told everyone it was a great investment. major finance teams would be buying it up. and he would then have to pay $1200, $2k, $3k per bitcoin, costing him dearly.

the only time you see rich people tell the general public that its a good time to buy or there are positives to buy.. is the time these rich people are ready to sell.

That's even more interesting. The plot thickens...!!

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April 06, 2014, 02:32:38 PM
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Perhaps Warren Buffet has realized that his most difficult task is now to maintain his net worth, not increasing it.
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April 06, 2014, 06:42:38 PM
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I heard that his book "The snowball of life" is very good

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April 06, 2014, 06:48:19 PM
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Phenomenal rise of Bitcoin economy would actually mean fall of the traditional banking and lending systems.

Bitcoin isn't need for that. They're doing a great job failing all by themselves.
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April 06, 2014, 08:17:34 PM
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I heard that his book "The snowball of life" is very good
It is! It's a lot of pages to chew through, but it's a very detailed chronology of his life amassing money.

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April 06, 2014, 09:24:13 PM
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This proves that WB only cares about his Co's and his stockholders bottom line profits and not the financial well being of all the American people !
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April 07, 2014, 02:07:59 AM
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Buffett has bitcoin wrong
Great investor that he is, he has been wrong about stuff before

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April 07, 2014, 04:53:15 PM
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To repeat the OP's point, one of the important reasons is that Berkshire Hathaway is a large shareholder in many banks/financial institutions.
Reference mentioned in the OP pertains only to stocks.  Indeed, Berkshire Hathaway's exposure to financial sector is larger, as it holds significant amount of debt and debt-like instruments from that sector.
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April 07, 2014, 04:57:28 PM
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I don't think of him as an enemy. He just doesn't get it. Lot's of people don't get it.

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April 07, 2014, 05:02:45 PM
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Buffet is definitely old school and dealing in tangibles.

I'm pretty sure he's hired someone to run his cell phone for him and he does not see the future the way it's shaping up or else he'd invest in future technology even if he's not going to live long enough to see it come to fruition. That he is still caught up in the fiat system and banking shows he'd never support bitcoin as an investment - not even to get rich (maybe short term but long term investment). He probably figures fiat is so rooted into the collective conscious that bitcoin is a fad like the liberty dollars and isn't worried about it.

Buffet has long since been corrupted by his wealth and bluntly, probably not much longer on this earth anyway. His generation of investors are going to be part of the Fall that is coming. Again, the world is experiencing a paradigm shift and the Revolution has become digital - where the Old School is at a massive disadvantage, which is why they're losing, threatened, and freaking out.

Their empire is falling.

Good riddance.

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April 07, 2014, 05:32:36 PM
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think of it this way.  Warren Buffet spent his entire life making money the old fashioned way.  $39 billion.  now he's gonna take $38 million and put it in Bitcoins.  and make a $1000000 trillion profit in the next coming months after the landslide, and Bitcoin Island becomes a country.  people will look at him like the devil.

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