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July 06, 2026, 04:47:47 PM
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The hard truth about Bitcoin is that it has now become a mature and established investment vehicle—much like precious metals or major stocks.

For such secure investments, a twofold (+100%) annual return is exceptionally high. A tenfold annual increase is extremely unlikely—the last time BTC saw a tenfold rise was between 2020 and 2021. With gold, no one expects a 10x annual return  Smiley

Of course, the abovementioned fact is hardly a revelation or news—Bitcoin ceased to be an exceptional investment back around 2021, when its market capitalization reached a trillion dollars. It is worth recalling this, however, as many claim that Bitcoin’s price performance has been poor in recent years — the most famous of them Mark Cuban, for instance, is a case in point  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5583704.msg66751121#msg66751121

No. Bitcoin hasn’t "stagnated." It has simply matured. Look at traditional Assets ROI (in USD) from
https://casebitcoin.com/charts#roi_chart
And this is neither good nor bad. It is simply part of the natural life cycle of every successful asset and every great opportunity.

If you want to achieve a 10x or 100x annual return, you need to find the next Bitcoin — an asset in a similar position to where Bitcoin was in the 2010s.
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July 06, 2026, 05:07:34 PM
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Bitcoin was not just demanded by the people like that, but they ensure that it fixes in their immediate challenges encountered in financial economy, it has been long overdue that people wanted to have an alternative digital currency and they have been a lot of efforts to create digital coins and availed not, until satoshi became the first successful digital currency inventor that brought about bitcoin into existence and we all use it to this day for our financial freedom.

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July 06, 2026, 06:52:02 PM
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If you want to achieve a 10x or 100x annual return, you need to find the next Bitcoin — an asset in a similar position to where Bitcoin was in the 2010s.
What coin will that be, to be in such a position? As we don't know the fate and future of any coin in the market that will continue to survive the bearish market, control the market, gain investors trust, and build a strong community that will stand by it without giving up on its potential in the long run.

I feel it's wise for us to have our focus on Bitcoin alone rather than continue to think we can find a rare gem coin that won't be centralized that will give us a 10x or 100x profits in the future.

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If you want to achieve a 10x or 100x annual return, you need to find the next Bitcoin — an asset in a similar position to where Bitcoin was in the 2010s.
So, these were AI stocks, but the time to buy was in 2020-2022, when the companies were just developing. Back then, few believed in the commercial success of neural networks. Anything related to it was worth buying: Nvidia, memory chip manufacturers. Perhaps companies developing AI agents will also grow.

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July 06, 2026, 08:02:12 PM
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If you want to achieve a 10x or 100x annual return, you need to find the next Bitcoin — an asset in a similar position to where Bitcoin was in the 2010s.

That is the problem, since there are thousands of projects launched everyday and most of them trying to be the next bitcoin so what are you going to do? Invest in all of them or going to gamble with a few still it is not same as bitcoin was in 2010. So my suggestion will be instead of focuing on 100x in a year just focus on holding your bitcoins for atleast a cycle then it should give you decent returns than any other traditional investments.

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July 06, 2026, 08:27:36 PM
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If you want to achieve a 10x or 100x annual return, you need to find the next Bitcoin — an asset in a similar position to where Bitcoin was in the 2010s.
What coin will that be, to be in such a position? As we don't know the fate and future of any coin in the market that will continue to survive the bearish market, control the market, gain investors trust, and build a strong community that will stand by it without giving up on its potential in the long run.

I feel it's wise for us to have our focus on Bitcoin alone rather than continue to think we can find a rare gem coin that won't be centralized that will give us a 10x or 100x profits in the future.
Anything that is invested in with the potential return of 10x or 100x profit is just leverage and it is high risk to me. I only know how Bitcoin can hit this potential because of the effect of volatility as its price driving mechanism among other factors.

Bitcoin is still being integrated into the global financial system and as it is notably known as digital gold in this reign, it earned the right to rank among gold and other precious asset that is a wealth builder, bringer and multiplier.




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July 07, 2026, 08:31:51 AM
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The hard truth about Bitcoin is that it has now become a mature and established investment vehicle—much like precious metals or major stocks.
Well, yes, it's no longer the electronic digital money originally envisioned. I think bitcoin is closer to tech stocks (thankfully, it's still tech).

For such secure investments, a twofold (+100%) annual return is exceptionally high.
Do you know many financial instruments with similar returns?

A tenfold annual increase is extremely unlikely—the last time BTC saw a tenfold rise was between 2020 and 2021.
Why not? This market still has plenty of room to fall (and then grow exponentially). Smiley Of course, it's unlikely to be tenfold, but severalfold is certainly possible.

With gold, no one expects a 10x annual return  Smiley
That's why people invest in bitcoin. Smiley With this asset, such tricks are quite possible (even now).

No. Bitcoin hasn’t "stagnated." It has simply matured. Look at traditional Assets ROI (in USD) from
https://casebitcoin.com/charts#roi_chart
And this is neither good nor bad. It is simply part of the natural life cycle of every successful asset and every great opportunity.
It was inevitable, because the "sweet" time with mind-blowing X-s can't last forever.

If you want to achieve a 10x or 100x annual return, you need to find the next Bitcoin — an asset in a similar position to where Bitcoin was in the 2010s.
Well, bitcoin is still quite capable of showing 10x (not as fast). 100x? Don't offer me shitcoins. Smiley

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July 07, 2026, 09:17:11 AM
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If you want to achieve a 10x or 100x annual return, you need to find the next Bitcoin — an asset in a similar position to where Bitcoin was in the 2010s.
What coin will that be, to be in such a position? As we don't know the fate and future of any coin in the market that will continue to survive the bearish market, control the market, gain investors trust, and build a strong community that will stand by it without giving up on its potential in the long run.

I feel it's wise for us to have our focus on Bitcoin alone rather than continue to think we can find a rare gem coin that won't be centralized that will give us a 10x or 100x profits in the future.

The thing is that Bitcoin is the first, so what follows is just a copy cat or what we call alternavite crypto. So we might not find that gem in the future, although there are a lot of hype coins or meme coins that can give us that x return, but you really need to be an early bird because once it exploded for sure it won't last that long and it won't have that staying power as Bitcoin.

Someone mentions AI, it could be true, but then again if it is going to be crypto + AI, then still be hype so it might fall into what I have describe above. All is just in for the hype and pump and dump.


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July 07, 2026, 10:03:19 AM
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If you want to achieve a 10x or 100x annual return, you need to find the next Bitcoin — an asset in a similar position to where Bitcoin was in the 2010s.
Someone expecting a 10x annual return or above is crazy even when those who entered bitcoin in the early days realised that it was not entirely their plan, but demand just made it possible, trying to set a target of 10x that will easily land the person in the wrong investment hand by chasing what appears to be promising, but in reality it has high tendency of taking your asset away rather and bringing in profit.

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Someone expecting a 10x annual return or above is crazy even when those who entered bitcoin in the early days realised that it was not entirely their plan, but demand just made it possible, trying to set a target of 10x that will easily land the person in the wrong investment hand by chasing what appears to be promising, but in reality it has high tendency of taking your asset away rather and bringing in profit.

I think the biggest bad narrative about this market is actually the look out for next bitcoin, there is nothing like the next bitcoin. This is the narrative that most influencers have passed to get their follows but some of the pump and dump scam tokens we have now. Looking for the next coin to actually buy and get a 10x is not differen from anyone who actually is into gambling or Ponzi scheme. It’s not that they are not coins that have done 10x aside bitcoin there are even meme coins that can go 20x or move but the ability to get any of this is actually not easy and usually the funds wasted on finding them are not actually reasonable to me.

Bitcoin too can do a 10x from the current price, bitcoin getting to $700k is actually a 10x from its current price and this is possible in my opinion because bitcoin will one day attain this high. But the problem is some investors are not patient enough to hold till then

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July 07, 2026, 01:30:42 PM
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If you want to achieve a 10x or 100x annual return, you need to find the next Bitcoin — an asset in a similar position to where Bitcoin was in the 2010s.
In 2010 there was only Bitcoin, now there are 20,000+ altcoins, 99% of which will die or become -99%. Now to achieve a 10x or 100x annual return the odds are 1 in 20,000. From 2013-2023, thousands of "Bitcoin candidates" have collapsed, only a few, such as ETH, BNB, and SOL, have managed to reach 100x, while the rest have become graveyards for investors. Nowadays it is very difficult to find 1 coin that meets those criteria, if any, it is like finding 1 needle in 10 haystacks while blindfolded.

Investors who manage to make 100x returns on altcoins usually don't become the new rich, the reason being they don't dare to invest large sums of money. It is very rare to find investors who invest $100 in Altcoin to become $100,000 because when it reaches 10x they immediately sell it. The only ones who really hold from 10x to 100x are only 2 types of investors, namely insiders or those who forgot their passwords.
It's okay if someone is chasing 100x, but don't sacrifice Bitcoin, because 99% of "next Bitcoin" hunters end up poorer than small investors who consistently apply DCA strategies in Bitcoin.

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If you want to achieve a 10x or 100x annual return, you need to find the next Bitcoin — an asset in a similar position to where Bitcoin was in the 2010s.
Someone expecting a 10x annual return or above is crazy even when those who entered bitcoin in the early days realised that it was not entirely their plan, but demand just made it possible, trying to set a target of 10x that will easily land the person in the wrong investment hand by chasing what appears to be promising, but in reality it has high tendency of taking your asset away rather and bringing in profit.

One thing is certain: we can never achieve anything extraordinary unless we strive for the impossible (or what currently seems impossible to most of us).

The world is full of wonderful opportunities, and it depends on us whether we are open enough to see them. In 1990. In 2010. In 2030.

A 100-fold annual return is a magical number—even Bitcoin has achieved it only once (in 2013). No one can tell you which asset is the 100x one, and if someone does, you shouldn't believe him—you have to find it yourself.



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I was looking for the next 10X for over 4 years, now my alt portfolio is down 86%, so I will rather stick with BTC alone.
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You're not wrong. The bigger an asset gets, the lower its volatility becomes. Bitcoin doesn't do 10x in a year anymore; it won't even do a 5x increase in a year. In the same way, the chances of Bitcoin crashing to $10k are also very low
We know it's easier for things to come down than go up. It is easier for Bitcoin to drop 50% than to increase by 50%.

Bitcoin was not just demanded by the people like that, but they ensure that it fixes in their immediate challenges encountered in financial economy, it has been long overdue that people wanted to have an alternative digital currency and they have been a lot of efforts to create digital coins and availed not, until satoshi became the first successful digital currency inventor that brought about bitcoin into existence and we all use it to this day for our financial freedom.

What you wrote isn't in line with what the OP said. Or am I the one who didn't get it?

Try to write better.
Hint: Keep it simple. Don't try to overcomplicate things with a formal English structure, unless you're good at it. Write as you would write in an informal discussion.

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