Be aware of nutildah -- a probable bought account

[jg_btc]

This is for awareness because the original finding might have dumbed by other discussion:


1.
What happened::

@7788bitcoin eternalgloom found that nutildah account was up for sale by 2016 but now nutildah claims that they changed mind and abandoned that sale.

Name:   nutildah
Posts:   2152
Activity:   560
Position:   Hero Member
Date Registered:   April 19, 2014, 11:50:27 AM
Trust:   0: -0 / +0

My posts were frequently contentious and sometimes downright argumentative, but that's because I'm a real person who was genuinely interested in bitcoin and this forum, and I wasn't just trying to build up an account to sell it or do sig campaigns.

Its a completely anonymous account, never been linked to my real identity. I stopped posting for the most part about 6 months ago.

I would like 0.3 BTC for it.

You can get back to me here or via PM. Thanks!

Account still for sale, dropped the price to 0.275 BTC

ps: it was brought to my attention that a large amount of user accounts had been stolen recently. i am more than happy to provide proof of original ownership upon request.

Quoted from: Wayback Machine

Hmm, consider me skeptical.

nutildah, would you mind signing a message with any Bitcoin address that you staked before those dates?

That would help verify the original ownership of the account.

2.
On demanding to sign a message with the address prior to that attempt of sale, nutildah signed with the address that was posted 2 years AFTER that sale topic.

nutildah, would you mind signing a message with any Bitcoin address that you staked before those dates?

I didn't stake an address before those dates, but I can sign a message from an address used for a Bitcoin token project from Aug 2014. This is the first token collection ever created on Bitcoin:

BitBowl team tokens now back up for sale!

This is the project I am currently wearing an avatar for and have in my signature.

...
I should really come up with a more automated way of doing it before next season starts. But if you're interested in buying the complete set, let me know; they're all under the same address:

1PypgzaAJXHzLPvkLQwWzqwn1AyhJd9YUi

Address: 1PypgzaAJXHzLPvkLQwWzqwn1AyhJd9YUi

Message:

Code:

This is nutildah. The date is 7/7/26. Its the same for both US and international date standards.

Signed:

Code:

H4C6Z9aRmx/NrtjWmughpkVt36YkNhwtRP5bEcm9jBfvS3VOftlR8j+yQLLb550eb7m/rq4QEMZo1tkHagQXAmw=

3.

After above, @eternalgloom was not continuing the investigation but there were drastic change of posting habits and writing style and level of English.

So, this topic may help other forum police to dig more to continue the investigation if they have missed those posts by eternalgloom and nutildah.

[7788bitcoin]

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@eternalgloom found that nutildah account was up for sale by 2016 but now nutildah claims that they changed mind and abandoned that sale.

I shared the Wayback Machine screenshot. Given that you noticed eternalgloom requesting a signed message, why did you ignore my post?
Edit:
I am just curious: without seeing my post, how did you see the text in its entirety to post the quotes from above and below my post?
As long as he is not holding forum funds or acting as an escrow for huge funds I am not going to do anything further than I posted earlier.
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[jg_btc]

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@eternalgloom found that nutildah account was up for sale by 2016 but now nutildah claims that they changed mind and abandoned that sale.

I shared the Wayback Machine screenshot. Given that you noticed eternalgloom requesting a signed message, why did you ignore my post?

Accept my apologies if I have missed your contribution. Could you please link to that screenshot?

[AB de Royse777]

is nutildah doing anything that goes against the spirit of the community? I have been seeing the same nutildah since I first noticed him (the account of course)

[jg_btc]

is nutildah doing anything that goes against the spirit of the community? I have been seeing the same nutildah since I first noticed him (the account of course)

As long as we cannot foresee the future, we cannot estimate anyone's exit plan.

I'm just curious on learning this: did you come across above signed message of nutildah and the context already, I am asking this because you are very frequent to this board... (which must be the point of this topic).

[AB de Royse777]

As long as we cannot foresee the future, we cannot estimate anyone's exit plan.

Hence you can not accuse anyone for something that has not happen yet.

I'm just curious on learning this: did you come across above signed message of nutildah and the context already, I am asking this because you are very frequent to this board... (which must be the point of this topic).

I read a few posts on the thread Old Accounts That Have Likely Been Hacked/Traded and I understand the heat is coming from there. My personal statement is - I won't even ask for a signed message from nutildah because I still don't see there is a reason for that. Like I told before ...

I have been seeing the same nutildah since I first noticed him (the account of course)

[Don Pedro Dinero]

is nutildah doing anything that goes against the spirit of the community? I have been seeing the same nutildah since I first noticed him (the account of course)

Even if nutildah were to publicly state that he bought or sold his account ten years ago, nothing would happen to him. I think the community is more aware of recent account sales, or when they are accompanied by other suspicious behaviour, such as having several alt accounts with which they exchange merits, or joining the same campaigns, etc.

[LoyceV]

You've got him now OP, you've busted nutildah's long con! He spent the last 10 years building a reputation preparing for this!

/sarcasm

[MisFoxie]

It's possible nutildah lost his wallet or maybe the account wasn't his from the beginning. Let's assume the account belongs to someone else, then why didn't that person come to the forum and recover account by signing massage with previous wallet after all this time?

Imagine that person recovered it now, can that person replace the current nutildah's contribution? Will forum members trust the old nutildah like they did now?

[logfiles]

Ooh, wow jg_btc, you made quite a discovery. Kudos for that. We had no idea that nutildah was a poison to the community all a long. We got fooled all these years and it's quite embarrassing
So what are we supposed to do Mr boss hiding, behind a sock puppet shit stirring account? Tag him? Banish him?

[TokenTikas]

Although since the beginning of my journey on the forum, I did not know anything like this about him. Basically, based on his activities, I thought he was doing good work for the forum. I don't know whether it's true or false, but after his past stories came out through criticism, one proverb came to my mind:

"The people we think are good may also have the heart of vermin hiding inside them."

[eternalgloom]

@eternalgloom found that nutildah account was up for sale by 2016 but now nutildah claims that they changed mind and abandoned that sale.

Lol, I didn't find it myself.
Credit always goes to 7788bitcoin, who found it first.

Anyway, I don't really understand why nutildah said he never staked a bitcoin address before that date.

I also noticed that he deleted a lot of his old posts that had his old bitcoin address in them. Maybe he lost access to those wallets. Or maybe he wants to keep them hidden for privacy reasons, everyone has privacy.

Actually, I don't like to give someone a negative tag at all unless there is solid evidence that they are trying to scam. Lately, it seems like you guys are in a big hurry to give red trust. While we are busy criticizing each other, the real scammers are quietly doing their job.

I think we should be a little more patient and tolerant with each other. I would urge both nutildah and stompix to refrain from giving red trusts until there is clear evidence that someone is actually guilty.

[Marvell1]

I would urge both nutildah and stompix to refrain from giving red trusts until there is clear evidence that someone is actually guilty.

This doesn't really apply to nutildah. I haven't seen a single case where he is handed out red tag without valid reason. If anything, he is consistently shown that he takes his DT responsibilities seriously

The same thing happened in this case too. nutildah initially tagged 7788bitcoin, but as soon as he realized he had made a mistake, he removed the negative trust. There was no ego involved, he simply corrected it, and this is why I always respect him.

As for stompix, I have answered his question multiple times, even though I am under no obligation to justify my personal life to anyone. I have provided more than enough evidence, yet I still dont know what he is trying to accomplish.

To me, that is misuse of DT power. At this age, whether I spend my time gambling, watching football or enjoying cricket with my grandchildren is my own business. I was surprised when anyone suggested I needed to explain why I watch football all day, so i deserve red tag,, IJBOL

[nutildah]

Even if nutildah were to publicly state that he bought or sold his account ten years ago, nothing would happen to him.

I expect to be held to the same standards I hold others to. I don't want a free pass.

It's possible nutildah lost his wallet or maybe the account wasn't his from the beginning. Let's assume the account belongs to someone else, then why didn't that person come to the forum and recover account by signing massage with previous wallet after all this time?

Imagine that person recovered it now, can that person replace the current nutildah's contribution? Will forum members trust the old nutildah like they did now?

Hmm... An interesting take, but not really a good defense because literally 300000 users with accounts older than mine forgot about their accounts.

For the sake of argument (that means this is a hypothetical [that means its not true]), let's say the Real Nutildah comes back and he's pissed. He finds an archived post from May 2014 with a staked address in it, and signs a message from the address.

If the evidence was clean enough for the admins, control of the account would have to be handed back to him. It wouldn't matter if the first thing he does is apply for a $40/week signature campaign and proceed to shitpost about cricket indefinitely into the future.

Anyway, I appreciate the sentiment.

Anyway, I don't really understand why nutildah said he never staked a bitcoin address before that date.

I also noticed that he deleted a lot of his old posts that had his old bitcoin address in them. Maybe he lost access to those wallets. Or maybe he wants to keep them hidden for privacy reasons, everyone has privacy.

Here's your big chance to bust me... I'll be waiting for you to make good on your investigation.

[eternalgloom]

Here's your big chance to bust me... I'll be waiting for you to make good on your investigation.

Burst what? You mean the account changed hands?

Honestly, I don't really care at this point. The current one has contributed far more to the forum and has become a valuable asset to the community, and that's what matters to me.

This doesn't really apply to nutildah. I haven't seen a single case where he is handed out red tag without valid reason. If anything, he is consistently shown that he takes his DT responsibilities seriously

So, you are another one,, lol..

this drama started from skepticism. If they had given a neutral tag instead of a red tag, such drama wouldn't have started.

To me, that is misuse of DT power. At this age, whether I spend my time gambling, watching football or enjoying cricket with my grandchildren is my own business. I was surprised when anyone suggested I needed to explain why I watch football all day, so i deserve red tag,, IJBOL

Anyway, the same question goes to you that I asked nutildah. Can you sign a message from one of your old Bitcoin addresses?

What this forum values is, not your keys, not your account.

[nutildah]

Here's your big chance to bust me... I'll be waiting for you to make good on your investigation.

Burst what? You mean the account changed hands?

Honestly, I don't really care at this point. The current one has contributed far more to the forum and has become a valuable asset to the community, and that's what matters to me.

Sounds like you're wussing out. Well that's too bad, I really was looking forward to what you have to say.

[eternalgloom]

Sounds like you're wussing out. Well that's too bad, I really was looking forward to what you have to say.

It's not a matter of courage at all, it's a matter of will. Maybe I don't have any such will that is unnecessary.

Edit: ok, bye for now,, enjoying France vs Morocco,,

[Marvell1]

Anyway, the same question goes to you that I asked nutildah. Can you sign a message from one of your old Bitcoin addresses?

What this forum values is, not your keys, not your account.

Haha, let me dig through my old wallets once again and see if I can find one. I might still have access to some of those old addresses.

[Dr.Lender3]

Even if nutildah were to publicly state that he bought or sold his account ten years ago, nothing would happen to him.

I expect to be held to the same standards I hold others to. I don't want a free pass.

Sounds like you're wussing out. Well that's too bad, I really was looking forward to what you have to say.

Ok, give me a chance then,
No personal attack; consider it as a debate, please.

I will edit this post, so give me some time to check everything and understand the situation; then I will bring points against nutildah, and you should break down.

Anyway, I don't really understand why nutildah said he never staked a bitcoin address before that date.

I also noticed that he deleted a lot of his old posts that had his old bitcoin address in them. Maybe he lost access to those wallets. Or maybe he wants to keep them hidden for privacy reasons, everyone has privacy.

Here's your big chance to bust me... I'll be waiting for you to make good on your investigation.

Burst what? You mean the account changed hands?

The question shouldn't have been like this.
You intentionally asked such questions to save him.
The question should have been like this: "Burst what? Burst that the real owner sold this account? Or Burst that you are lying?"
Nobody should trust a liar.

nutildah, would you mind signing a message with any Bitcoin address that you staked before those dates?

I didn't stake an address before those dates.

You did. But you deleted all of them so that even if your account is locked, moderators can't find an address to ask you for a sign message.
So at first point its completly lying that you didn't stake an address.

Lol,, it seems to me shasan is also involved in this account trading..
Shasan only took this account as collateral from the 2nd owner, not from the original owner.

Hi there,

Guess what? I need money now, again.

I'm wondering if we could do this differently in one of two ways, and I know I could just email you these questions but maybe its educational for future loanees if you answered them here. This time, could I:

- borrow 0.03 instead of 0.02 this time, would repay 0.036 total in 2 weeks
- or, again borrow 0.02 and repay 0.024 without having to go through the whole process of escrow, now that I have established a bit of trustworthiness?

Let me know what you think. I do understand if the answer is "no" to either.

This time by taking this account as collateral I can give you 0.025BTC for 2 weeks and repayment will be 0.03BTC Hopefully think it is okay with you.
Edit: Merged 3rd May 2025:

This time by taking this account as collateral I can give you 0.025BTC for 2 weeks and repayment will be 0.03BTC Hopefully think it is okay with you.

OK, thats a compromise. I accept. I trust you so just tell me what you want me to do. Thanks.

First make loan request. with signature like earlier once I complete verification, send collateral like last time. Please give date instead of 2 weeks or something like that.

This time by taking this account as collateral I can give you 0.025BTC for 2 weeks and repayment will be 0.03BTC Hopefully think it is okay with you.

OK, thats a compromise. I accept. I trust you so just tell me what you want me to do. Thanks.

First make loan request. with signature like earlier once I complete verification, send collateral like last time. Please give date instead of 2 weeks or something like that.

Loan Amount: 0.025
Loan Purpose: Buy new internet router & plan
Loan Repay Amount: 0.03
Loan Repay Date: 10/31/18
Type of Collateral: this account
Escrow profile Link: none
Bitcoin Address: 1864jXLSdbZq319oQScCNG1m7nLYbGHuBX

Message from above BTC address:

Code:

This is still nutildah's bitcoin address. Today is 10/17/18. I am requesting a loan of 0.025 BTC to be repaid with 0.005 BTC interest on 10/31/18.

Base 64 Encoded:

Code:

ILSeOuy6FjWcGDH+NH9s4CqwOkjeQioTXo3TsJB756fFNxGpgXzNDRtd9w1tsGFKahMFSjcHDi2qYouyDKka6XA=

Signature Verified.
Loan Request Accepted.
I will send BTC once get collateral and change collateral Info.

1st staked address- https://bitlist.co/post/11387292

Whatever you do don't use the bitcoin address you posted on your profile to try to hide anything
1BE4Kb6Hp8QxK5AeYAbov734VXHmRMvJja

LOL. You betcha. Nor will I transfer anything to or from it. Its kind of like my "savings account," but seeing as how bitcoin has only provided negative interest for the last 14 months, I'm in no rush to stock it up.

note: After this date- 2nd owner deleted the post that contained the 1st staked address
Account still for sale, dropped the price to 0.275 BTC
ps: it was brought to my attention that a large amount of user accounts had been stolen recently. i am more than happy to provide proof of original ownership upon request.

This post was made by the original owner in 2015. It remained unedited till 2016. 2nd owner deleted this post after October 2016.


Last update1: till now, I haven't found any negative info. But I found a lot of positive info that the account has not been sold.  Will continue my research within a few hours. i need a short break

Last update2: While digging into nutildah's account, I noticed a lot of evidence that led me to believe that this account is still being operated by its original owner.

I can't link the proofs here because nutildah has deleted a bunch of his old posts and hidden them very well for whatever reason.

But from any point of view, I believe that this account has not been sold.

ps: I have done, will not edit this post anymore.

[nutildah]

The question shouldn't have been like this.
You intentionally asked such questions to save him.
The question should have been like this: "Burst what? Burst that the real owner sold this account? Or Burst that you are lying?"
Nobody should trust a liar.

This is what I said

Here's your big chance to bust me..

Meaning, the stage is set, all spotlights are on you, its go time.



Time to really bring down the Evil Empire once and for all. Like Luke Skywalker getting that 1 in a million shot on the Death Star. So... your move. Red 5 Standing By.


you did say you were gonna edit your thread

nutildah, would you mind signing a message with any Bitcoin address that you staked before those dates?

I didn't stake an address before those dates.

You did. But you deleted all of them so that even if your account is locked, moderators can't find an address to ask you for a sign message.
So at first point its completly lying that you didn't stake an address.

Alrighty. Do you have evidence that this happened? Is it archived somewhere? Because I sure can't remember ever signing anything before the address currently in my profile.