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July 15, 2026, 08:08:10 AM
Last edit: July 15, 2026, 08:33:45 AM by Greg Tonoski
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Yes, the BIP-110 has already been adopted by Bitcoiners and so will be activated in August 2026. The update of software on a Bitcoin node is highly recommended (https://github.com/bitcoinknots/bitcoin/releases). Uninstall Core™ cause it became obsolete and vulnerable.

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Wait what? I thought it's been voted against, are you sure? I saw the video online where even some pools are totally against it, I might be wrong though.

Yes, I am sure. There is the agreement among Bitcoin node runners. We will start applying the BIP-110 at the block height 961632 which is anticipated in the first half of August 2026. There hadn't been any voting planned (there isn't such a mechanism built in Bitcoin). BIP-110 is a security update and is activated by adoption (as opposed to some voting). Mining pools have neither rejected nor endorsed the BIP-110 in a public statement yet as they are expected to follow the agreement by node runners in the Bitcoin P2P network.
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July 15, 2026, 08:54:32 AM
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I thought it's been voted against, are you sure?
Any user can switch to any consensus rules at any time. If you want to use BIP-110, then you are free to do so. If the chain will be too slow, because of lack of support from miners, then it is your problem, how to push your chain forward.

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We will start applying the BIP-110 at the block height 961632
Which is when those, who signal for BIP-110, will form a separate chain, because of rejecting non-signalling blocks since then.

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There hadn't been any voting planned (there isn't such a mechanism built in Bitcoin).
There is miner signalling, which can tell you, how fast each chain will be, after it will split. In normal circumstances, where new rules are enforced, only when the consensus is reached, there is no chain split. But when one side forces the other side to support a given rules, and rejects blocks which don't do that, then it causes a split, if the supporters of a new rule are in a minority. And BIP-110 is enforced by some nodes, even if 0% hashrate will support it, which means, that these users, in a minority, will have to deal with the current chain difficulty somehow, if they want to see their transactions confirmed.

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BIP-110 is a security update and is activated by adoption
Of course, anyone can activate any new rules at any time. But if you do that without reaching consensus, then it is your problem. I can also tell, that "I don't like transaction X", make a soft-fork rejecting it, and switch to a minority client, which will enforce it. Just without miners, it wouldn't get far, because then, I would need to mine that chain by myself.

If changing network rules would be so easy, then we would have soft-forks every day. You can always type "invalidateblock <hash>" in your node, just because you don't like any part of that block, for any reason. But then, if other people are not doing the same thing, then it is your problem, how to push your chain forward.

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Mining pools have neither rejected nor endorsed the BIP-110
They rejected it, by not signalling for it. Bitcoin is changed only when a new change can reach consensus, otherwise the current rules are enforced, without changing anything. Since block 961,632, they will keep mining things in the same way as today, which will cause all BIP-110 enforcers to reject their blocks, even if they will have 99% hashrate.

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they are expected to follow the agreement
Miners have no reason to signal for BIP-110, which is why many of them don't, and why they will keep just ignoring it.

If you don't like that, then you are free to mine your chain by yourself. Your node, your choice, you can always use a coin, which is used by some minority, this is how altcoins are created: through disagreements like that. So, I expect a new BCH-like chain, where BIP-110 proponents will have their chain with their rules, which will be ignored by the rest of the community. And then, traders will decide, how much it is worth, when compared to the majority chain.

Anyway, some people still believe, that there will be no split, but OCEAN recently said otherwise: https://x.com/ocean_mining/status/2076763510596407616

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Today we are announcing that OCEAN’s backend will be upgraded to follow multiple chains independently in the event of a BIP 110 chain split. If a split occurs, DATUM miners automatically continue on whichever chain their own node enforces, and OCEAN will credit rewards to a split share log for that chain, subject to the chain’s continued operation and to our Terms of Service. OCEAN will effectively operate as two pools from the split point.

Updated Terms of Service addressing split handling will be published before block 961632. We are building all this so our miners can receive rewards based on their own actions without adversely affecting other OCEAN miners.
So, you can believe, whatever you want. But if some mining pool is preparing things "in the event of a BIP 110 chain split", then just be ready, as a user, for that kind of outcome. Just be ready to make a decision, if you want to use BIP-110 chain, if it will be in a minority, and will be turned into an altcoin.
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July 15, 2026, 11:52:09 AM
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they are expected to follow the agreement
Miners have no reason to signal for BIP-110, which is why many of them don't, and why they will keep just ignoring it.

That should be miners have no reason to signal for 110 which is why 99% of them and 99% of that blocks do not. And no exchanges and no payment processors or anyone else outside of some people on social media even know or care about 110.

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July 15, 2026, 12:15:42 PM
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Prediction markets are interesting because they show what people think now, but they may not necessarily be correct in predicting what happens in future. 14% chance means that traders are not betting strongly for BIP-110 to occur, at least as of this writing.
​Technical aspects, community discussions, and developer and user support are important in such Bitcoin changes. Proposal may not seem promising today and change with time.
​Prediction markets can be very helpful in determining market feeling, but I would not consider them final tool. Actual process of adoption will be based on broader agreement.

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July 15, 2026, 02:01:54 PM
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Yes, the BIP-110 has already been adopted by Bitcoiners and so will be activated in August 2026. The update of software on a Bitcoin node is highly recommended (https://github.com/bitcoinknots/bitcoin/releases). Uninstall Core™ cause it became obsolete and vulnerable.
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Wait what? I thought it's been voted against, are you sure? I saw the video online where even some pools are totally against it, I might be wrong though.
You are asking a CSAM repository builder himself whether he is sure about the lie that he is telling you? If you do not understand what is going on here, go somewhere else.  Roll Eyes

This shitpost  is completely useless and does not add anything to the discussion, go somewhere else.

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Today we are announcing that OCEAN’s backend will be upgraded to follow multiple chains independently in the event of a BIP 110 chain split. If a split occurs, DATUM miners automatically continue on whichever chain their own node enforces, and OCEAN will credit rewards to a split share log for that chain, subject to the chain’s continued operation and to our Terms of Service. OCEAN will effectively operate as two pools from the split point.

Updated Terms of Service addressing split handling will be published before block 961632. We are building all this so our miners can receive rewards based on their own actions without adversely affecting other OCEAN miners.
So, you can believe, whatever you want. But if some mining pool is preparing things "in the event of a BIP 110 chain split", then just be ready, as a user, for that kind of outcome. Just be ready to make a decision, if you want to use BIP-110 chain, if it will be in a minority, and will be turned into an altcoin.
Wasn't a little paid and delusional troll recently trying to convince people that BIP 110 will not cause a chain split, but he was not willing to put down any money on that despite the evidence from the code? Yet here we are, even OCEAN is admitting it.  Roll Eyes

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they are expected to follow the agreement
Miners have no reason to signal for BIP-110, which is why many of them don't, and why they will keep just ignoring it.

That should be miners have no reason to signal for 110 which is why 99% of them and 99% of that blocks do not. And no exchanges and no payment processors or anyone else outside of some people on social media even know or care about 110.

-Dave
All the market and historical precedence is strongly in favor of not changing Bitcoin in radical ways unless absolutely needed. That is why every individual that in the past had a savior complex was a scammer such as Roger Ver. If they understood Bitcoin, they would never suggest the things that they were trying to do. As of the Core v30 change, nothing has changed about OP_RETURN in any significant way. There has been absolutely no issues whether technical, legal, or otherwise and there won't be because one side is a delusional cluster fuck of pedophilia obsessed idiots.

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July 15, 2026, 02:36:00 PM
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I wonder how many people who bet on that prediction market actually read the "Yes" and "No" condition. The condition doesn't really match with the prediction title/headline.

The condition itself is vague. (...)
Indeed, the "prediction market" offer is misleading. There is the title "Will BIP-110 activate (...)" which is contradictory to its definition according to which it is subject to conditions after the activation:
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Definition of Activation
Check for violations after 64 blocks after the activation block, which is 965664. That block is currently expected some time on September 2nd or 3rd (...).
The offer already assumes that the BIP-110 will be activated.
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July 15, 2026, 02:47:27 PM
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The offer already assumes that the BIP-110 will be activated.

Yeah, it should be asked as will BIP-110 be the dominant chain.

The issue is newer knots nodes will stop accepting non signaling blocks as of the beginning of August. The true activation would be 2 periods after that which brings it to the beginning of September.

Just did a little poking around that site and I don't think there is a way to actually write that in a wager there.

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Today at 02:20:09 AM
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Just going to put this here: https://x.com/wk057/status/2077444826232955365

And this: https://docs.google.com/document/d/14DfMSVYBHTHIOmW32JTOR6BAP7AITbinvrhl8rJuvvc/edit?tab=t.0

More or less, saying 110 is not going to happen.

Written by Jason Hughes who developed DATUM.

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Today at 08:24:56 AM
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I see that on the Bitcoin Lightning prediction market Predyx, the probability is currently 14%.
https://beta.predyx.com/market/will-bip-110-activate-and-be-enforced-on-bitcoin-by-sept-1-2026-1770282509?ref=14da3a39873d6012
More than 6,000 traders have participated, with a trading volume of over 200 million sats.

What do you think?

Signaling is under 1% and OCEAN is already preparing to operate as two pools in case of a split, so activation looks pretty much settled. What I find more interesting is why 6,000 traders would still price this at 14% when the chain shows a fraction of that. Half the answer is in the market's fine print. The resolution terms assume activation happens and then check for violations afterwards, which means "Yes" could pay out on outcomes nobody would seriously call BIP-110 winning. So some of those bets are on how the market resolves, not on the fork itself.

The other half is probably just that this is the loudest fight in Bitcoin right now, and loud things attract bets. Prediction markets don't reflect hashrate, they reflect what participants believe, and most participants are reading the same feeds where this looks like a much closer contest than the blocks say it is.

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Today at 12:19:17 PM
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Just going to put this here: https://x.com/wk057/status/2077444826232955365

And this: https://docs.google.com/document/d/14DfMSVYBHTHIOmW32JTOR6BAP7AITbinvrhl8rJuvvc/edit?tab=t.0

More or less, saying 110 is not going to happen.

Written by Jason Hughes who developed DATUM.

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People who are afraid to take a side are despicable cowards though.  Smiley One must always take the side of truth, no matter what the circumstances are. BIP110 isn't happening for Bitcoin that is for sure, they can fork off to their shitcoin if they want to.

Signaling is under 1% and OCEAN is already preparing to operate as two pools in case of a split, so activation looks pretty much settled. What I find more interesting is why 6,000 traders would still price this at 14% when the chain shows a fraction of that. Half the answer is in the market's fine print. The resolution terms assume activation happens and then check for violations afterwards, which means "Yes" could pay out on outcomes nobody would seriously call BIP-110 winning. So some of those bets are on how the market resolves, not on the fork itself.
You are misreading the platform to imply that there are 6000 humans who are making conscious decisions to place this bet. Meanwhile there could be countless bots and propaganda related reasons for placing those bets.

The other half is probably just that this is the loudest fight in Bitcoin right now, and loud things attract bets. Prediction markets don't reflect hashrate, they reflect what participants believe, and most participants are reading the same feeds where this looks like a much closer contest than the blocks say it is.
They always find a way to create fear and sow dissent with some bullshit. The only reason why this is the "loudest fight" is because of pedophile luke-jr, who has become an enemy of Bitcoin. Instead of doing something beneficial for it, he creates an unnecessary conflict based on lies. Nevertheless, when this saga is over you can be sure that the same that the same forces that are manipulating the masses and our very own "independent thinkers" will come back with another reason to create FUD. If they do not come up with something unique yet bullshit like storing data into the blockchain which is not preventable, they can always default back to quantum computing fears.  Roll Eyes

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Today at 02:01:34 PM
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They always find a way to create fear and sow dissent with some bullshit. The only reason why this is the "loudest fight" is because of pedophile luke-jr, who has become an enemy of Bitcoin. Instead of doing something beneficial for it, he creates an unnecessary conflict based on lies. Nevertheless, when this saga is over you can be sure that the same that the same forces that are manipulating the masses and our very own "independent thinkers" will come back with another reason to create FUD. If they do not come up with something unique yet bullshit like storing data into the blockchain which is not preventable, they can always default back to quantum computing fears.  Roll Eyes


Or core is compromised by big money.
Or the government.
Or anything else they can think of to stay relevant.

But in the end they will all wind up in the altcoin section with BSV.

People who are afraid to take a side are despicable cowards though.  Smiley One must always take the side of truth, no matter what the circumstances are. BIP110 isn't happening for Bitcoin that is for sure, they can fork off to their shitcoin if they want to.


According to him he sold all his BTC and got out because he didn't like the way the current developers were doing things with .30
Don't know if it's the truth or not. But in theory his side was outside / no-coiner side.

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