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Today at 07:08:01 AM
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Are you based in United States?

Crypto is coming to agentic trading.

Eligible US customers will soon be able to connect their AI agent to a dedicated Robinhood account to trade crypto on their behalf, with the same real-time P&L tracking and push notifications they already know from agentic trading. More soon.

I have preferred not to believe in AI trading for trading, creating strategies and using it to trade for people. If you are from United States or living in the United States, if you have access to this trading AI trading automation, you can let us know about it after you have access to it.

There was one for Bybit that we discussed about recently, maybe I may create an AI sub-account on Bybit to see how it works, but I do not know the reason I have been lazy to create the AI account till now. I think I am stuck with manual trading and not relying on AI.

If you have used the Bybit sub-account, how was it?
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Today at 09:11:03 AM
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I am not from the US, but my take is i still have a mix feelings for AI automated trade execution portfolio tracking, despite the convinces it provides, I still doesn't trust it to make good decisions during a highly volatile market.

I still prefer my human trading techniques because I can control some actions and apply my decipline along the line of executing my trade.

Best I can use AI for is to add to my market analysis like a support to my own strategic market analysis, AI agent.
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Today at 09:42:34 AM
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For sure, there are many innovations today with the use of AI implementations that have been effective in digital Technology today, it only depends on how specific we are more inclined to their applications, which is why AI cannot perform everything for you but only on the targeted aspect it was being designed to run, everything have to go with a test to see how they put deliver and also give some time to know the quality of the delivery we could get, but don't expect them to trade for you like humans.

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Today at 01:51:46 PM
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Disaster waiting to happen lol... I am not touching AI to trade for me right now. A lot of the LLMs are still not that good after I look at the AI trading competition — https://nof1.ai/leaderboard.
maybe if someone just wants to do it for fun or as a hobby with some disposable funds until they are very confident with the trading agent

 
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Today at 01:59:51 PM
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Agentic trading has been a thing for a while and it's coming everywhere, not just Robinhood.

All large players like Binance, Coinbase, OKX and more are building infrastructure for it.

Algorithmic trading has been around for many years and even large institutions let their capital rely on algorithms so I don't really see the problems with it from the risk perspective.


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Today at 02:44:49 PM
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I have preferred not to believe in AI trading for trading, creating strategies and using it to trade for people. If you are from United States or living in the United States, if you have access to this trading AI trading automation, you can let us know about it after you have access to it.
AI trading has been discussed many times on many forums and even many times on this forum. It's nowadays not that hard to make an AI agent to trade for you and if that agent has some reinforcement learning ability then overtime it can improve its trading skills. I believe the day isn't far when we'll see most good traders setting AI agents to trade for them, they can feed their strategies to that AI agent and somehow program it in a way that it could improve its mistakes overtime.

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Today at 04:50:31 PM
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The sub account I have on bybit is not liked to AI but I use it just for my manual futures trading while my main account is for spot trades and p2p trade. I'm not so much in favour of using AI for my trades because I feel that I can not be any better whether with the use of AI or manually doing it, it's not so simple and so I just prefer to do it my own. Most of the time when am scrolling on social media, I stumbles unto many AI trading ads but I don't just feel convince enough, so I always scroll past it without giving any concern to it.

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Today at 05:41:34 PM
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I still prefer my human trading techniques because I can control some actions and apply my decipline along the line of executing my trade.
I am with you on this, standing on the side that human trading techniques are better off than trying to want to depend on artificial intelligence. If you depend on your human trading techniques and you invest time into developing yourselves, you're on a steady progressive pedestal different from someone who fixes their dependence totally on artificial intelligence and because of that fails to continue the process of trying to learn or acquire more knowledge to improve their success rate in trading.

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Best I can use AI for is to add to my market analysis like a support to my own strategic market analysis, AI agent.
I am also still very careful with this because it can bring a lot of confusion and make your decision-making process much more difficult because artificial intelligence can also be wrong.

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Today at 07:31:26 PM
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I have preferred not to believe in AI trading for trading, creating strategies and using it to trade for people. If you are from United States or living in the United States, if you have access to this trading AI trading automation, you can let us know about it after you have access to it.
Agentic Trading is now global, so many people outside the US could give you their feedback, unless you prefer some specific ones like the Robinhood, but the world has evolved.

When I see something like this, I laugh, because this is its time, but people would learn painfully over time. This is obviously the time of AI, so smart developers are creating systems around it so that people can have a fresh share of losses, as they always do. This is just a repackage of it, and I tell you, it has always been the same stories. Trading bots couldn't do it despite many years of development; I wonder what this could do differently.

The institution that truly know some traditional logics are reported to be successful with AI trading, but as usually, retail traders are being sold garbages that don't work.

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Today at 08:38:51 PM
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I have preferred not to believe in AI trading for trading, creating strategies and using it to trade for people. If you are from United States or living in the United States, if you have access to this trading AI trading automation, you can let us know about it after you have access to it.

There was one for Bybit that we discussed about recently, maybe I may create an AI sub-account on Bybit to see how it works, but I do not know the reason I have been lazy to create the AI account till now. I think I am stuck with manual trading and not relying on AI.

If you have used the Bybit sub-account, how was it?
Believe me, what you and I want is not here yet, at least for the public. Because we still have to configure the AI with the risk and reward ratio, have to give it access to our funds, and have to give it a proper set of instructions and strategies like buy at this range or when a specific token dumps by this percentage and sell at a specific range.

This is the typical behavior of how it works. Some only ask how much we want to risk, and they choose a trade based on the strategies database they have and make profits.

You have to be smart enough to realize that if exchanges started to give these features already made and waiting for us to give them a go, isn't it going to damage their revenue, as exchanges make money from liquidations? Instead, it can boost it with biased and manipulative models.

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Today at 08:54:33 PM
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I do think that for now, anything about AI bots and tools is still evolving and upgrading. Just like OP, I too would be very cautious when trying to trust AI with my capital to trade, when I can do it myself at convenience and with confidence.
The best edge a true trader has in the market is their natural human decision making capabilities, the risk management knowledge they have, and their psychological as well as their financial discipline. AI lack these true characteristics no matter how upgraded they have become so far.

To be safe though, a trader can try out this Ai agentic account with a test amount of capital, while observing how it interprets commands that it has been customized to execute in the market.

Incase any intends to learn more about BYBiT's AI subaccounts and the new Robinhood agentic account you can visit their site via the link below, hopefully more knowledge is gained:

https://learn.bybit.com/en/ai/ai-sub-account-beginners-guide?hl=en-US#:~:text=The%20Bybit%20AI%20Subaccount%20is%20a%20segregated,and%20no%20in%2Dapp%20account%20switching%20into%20it.



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Hi, I'm new here. To Moderator: If my post is out-of-place, please just let me know and I will come into line with any and all rules etc. I mean, I'm NOT trying to 'Troll', and I believe this is the right category.

So, I've been trying to make money with Crypto for a little over 3 years. To refresh anyones memory - the last Bitcoin halving took place on April 20, 2024, and the event reduced the block reward for miners from 6.25 to 3.125 new bitcoins per block.

Now, I'm no expert, but I actually think I'm pretty good at picking which experts I'm going to LISTEN TO and follow.
And the ones I was listening to in early 2024 were super-excited and saying that this halving was the one that was going to push BTC over the 100k threshold for the first time.

And, they were absolutely right, at least about that much of their predictions.  
So I bought into that, and I had a nice portfolio of sympathetic coins - which they said had to surge if BTC surges.
I had Cardano, Solona, Polkadot, Aave... 7 or 8 others - and lo' and behold, when BTC first crossed the 100k mark on DEC 5th, 2024 - most of my portfolio ROCKED!

I mean, I peaked in the surge at being up about 75% across the board - some individual holdings were moderately down - others surged to as high as +400% etc.
So overall up that 75% from my initial outlay. I was feeling pretty d_mn good about it, but then I BLEW IT. I listened to a particular 2 newsletter/blog writers that said to effect of ...

"yes, once it crosses that 100k threshold, there will be no going back, over the next months it will continue to 250k a coin, and from there, eventually up to 1M'. But there will be No Going Back".
Well, obviously they were wrong about that part!
btw, Michael Saylor I believe was saying that same thing back then, and I'd always check him out, but he wasn't one of my 'Guru's'.

Well obviously - they were WRONG about never coming down again, once it crossed 100k.
And I got complacent (my biggest mistake!) and thought the portfolio would ride it on up to +200%, +400% etc...
Needless to say, it didn't happen Lol... my portfolio dwindled back down, to even-point, etc.

But, we learn as we go, and I think the more bitter the lesson is, the more you can improve from it.

An underlying point is this, I'm always looking for opportunities to $prosper$ in the Crypto market -
I mean it doesn't have to be buy BTC, ETH, or others and just 'wait' or 'hope' for their value to increase.

I'm looking at if there are any credible and viable 'creative' concepts that might be a good alternative investment avenue?
I'm checking out one now that at least looks very interesting so far, and the basics of it are something like this:

What if you could invest in not the coins themselves, but invest in getting a piece of the 'Tolls'? Check it out...

Analogy:Say that there was a super-highway of transiting cars/trucks, with the volume of traffic transiting on it numbering into the ten's of thousands per day.
NOW - what if there was an alternative to investing into say - the stock of the highway construction company that has years of lucrative gov. contracts to build
more and more highways - with all it's relative infrastructure (the 'BTC' in this analogy).
Now, this could be a heck-of-a-good investment, but of course it would be 'buy-and-hold' - watch the market forces like a hawk etc...

Well, what if you could invest in the 'Toll Handling' company, the one running the extensive-array's of Toll Booth's (Crypto Transaction Fee's in this analogy)
and get just a miniscule "Piece" of every car/truck's fee, when they had to stop and pay at the booth. Right?
Now, with that massive volume of small transactions, it would amount to big numbers because those 'Micro-Fragments' really add up to something fantastic.. right?

Now, again I'm not trying to 'Troll' b.c. I"m not 'selling' sh_t, or anything like that - but just as I was fascinated by the BTC 'HALVING' concept as it was introduced and explained
to me back in early 2024 - I'm fascinated right now by this particular concept, and I'm in the process of Vetting it... you know, learning all I can before I invest a dime!
If anyone interested I can update as I learn more - and if I do decide to invest in these 'Crypto Transaction Fee's' as I understand it now... I update with the results...

There's a webby on it tonight at 8p EST, and I HAVE NO affiliation with it, but at this time I believe it to be a legitimate company/offering,
and my first order of business is to prove that wrong! I mean, I'll ask the questions in the chat if I can... I'm gonna find out if this is Real man...
Can I leave my email if it's not against the rules?  Anyway wants to sit-in on tonight webby hit me up for the link at (refunder dot thunder @ protonmail dot com)
If tha't COOL! If it's not, I won't do it again, I promise... I'm just kinda excited about this concept and maybe someone else is too.... idk

I mean, I have no piece or affiliation with them, but think of the fricking volume a 'Coinbase' and it's competitors do in just a day.
I might be off, and correct me if so - but I believe there is upwards of over 1B dollars of BTC traded everday. Right?

So that's why I find this whole concept just 'Bind-Moggling'  shwoooh...  

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