Staking and seizing

[hack3rcon]

Hello,
Is it possible that after staking a coin or token, the validator will seize the coin or token due to issues such as sanctions (AML)? Will our assets be transferred to them after staking?

Thank you.

[_act_]

If the staking has terms and conditions, make sure you read it. Staking on a noncustodial wallet does not give the validator full control of your coins.

Make sure you read the protocol rules before staking.

Anything that can make government have control over your coins, they need to have the private key of the wallet to access the staked coins.

But make sure you read the staking rules.

[OmegaStarScream]

AFAIK, that should not be possible in any case because the funds are never transferred to the validator. Unless you're dealing with centralized services, I highly doubt that there is any AML screening involved. At least, I never heard of such a case before.

[TastyChillySauce00]

There are many kinds of staking but I don't think validator could seize your coin, in a decentralized blockchain things like that won't happen. Instead, the risk is coming from counterparty risk where you deposited your coin or token in. If the smart contract is in control by certain project, they are the one that could seize your coin or tokens.

Sanctions from AML usually enforced at the exchange level where they will flag your account as high risk, but never on the blockchain. Never heard any news about validator seizing coins at all.

[FinneysTrueVision]

In delegated proof of stake, which is one of the most common forms of staking, validators don’t ever have control over your funds. They are only given the rights to your voting power. You might still lose funds if there is a slashing penalty against a validator, but slashing isn’t implemented in Solana or Hyperliquid as far as I know.

On Ethereum, things are different because you can only stake by running your own validator. If you don’t meet the requirements, you have to pool your funds with other people. Depending on the protocol you pool your funds with, there could be some counterparty risk.

If you choose a CEX, then obviously you do not have any control whatsoever. Even if you buy cbETH, Coinbase staked ETH, from a DEX, there is a blacklist function in the smart contract. It cannot be redeemed trustlessly either.

[asriloni]

When you're failing to comply with the rule such as AML. Validator has no right to seize your token. It's your address that will be blacklisted, and your coin still yours, but you will not able to send it to the anywhere because your address being blacklisted by majority of exchange sites due to AML violation.

However, if it's related to the stable coin, which has allowance to freze your coin. It's possible your balance will be frozen due to the AML violation. It's the issuer who has this power, not validator.

Validator is basically a common address that used to validate the network, they have no ability to seize or freeze your money.

[passwordnow]

Hello,
Is it possible that after staking a coin or token, the validator will seize the coin or token due to issues such as sanctions (AML)? Will our assets be transferred to them after staking?

Thank you.

I can't say but it should be the wallet where you staked those coins has the authority to freeze it or not if there's an order from the government due to AML. Would you care to elaborate what's this specific validator and coin/token that you've got in your mind that's likely to do such thing?

[ImGenius]

In most non custodial staking validators can't take over someone else's staked fund. Because when staking is done through a self custodial wallet it goes under the staking protocol of that network from which it can never be transferred to the validator. If validator misbehave somehow you may not be able to earn from there but validator will never be able to take your funds. But if you do it through exchange whose private key is with the exchange then they can freeze it.