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July 12, 2026, 01:32:44 AM
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[ANN] Bloch-SIS-PoW — post-quantum pure-PoW BlockDAG | mainnet beta | NO ICO, NO sale, unaudited, 51%-attackable — an honest ANN

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Bloch-SIS-PoW
A post-quantum, pure-PoW BlockDAG — announced the way we wish every ANN were written.

Read this first: what this thread is NOT

This is not an investment opportunity, and I will not pretend otherwise.

  • No ICO, no token sale, no presale, no IEO. Nothing is for sale in this thread. Nobody affiliated with the project will ever DM you to sell you coins. If someone does, it's a scammer.
  • No exchange listings and no listing effort. No market-making, no price, no "target price". The coin carries no value claim.
  • Unaudited. A third-party audit is contracted but not done yet. The concrete-security analysis and the IACR ePrint paper are still outstanding.
  • Nascent network: very few nodes, low hashrate → currently 51%-attackable. Stated plainly, not buried in a footnote.
  • The PoW is currently running in a relaxed regime (k=4) in which the work is trivially forgeable. Details below — including why the hardened regime was activated and then reverted.
  • 17% founder premine, disclosed in full: 10-year cliff, 40-year linear vest, structurally passive. You can verify it on-chain.

If you are looking for the next moonshot, this thread will waste your time. If you are interested in post-quantum PoW research running on a live network you can attack, keep reading.



What it actually is

Bloch-SIS-PoW is an ownerless post-quantum Layer-1 protocol, written in Rust:

  • Consensus: pure PoW, BlockDAG (GhostDAG-Q), ~30s block target
  • PoW: cumulative SHAKE-256 hashcash work, with a Module-SIS lattice gate as a structural filter on top
  • Signatures: hybrid post-quantum — Falcon ‖ ML-DSA
  • Difficulty: ASERT-Lattice
  • Storage/stack: RocksDB, libp2p, JSON-RPC (bitcoin-cli-style client included)
  • License: MIT / Apache-2.0, per crate — no copyleft

"Ownerless" is meant literally: no foundation, no official website, no privileged seed nodes (DEFAULT_SEEDS = [] in the source), no node with a special role, no curator. It is software plus a documented RPC surface, and nothing more. The repository:

Code:
gitlab.com/blochsispow-group/BlochSISPoW-project

(Rendered as text on purpose — the protocol has no official site, and we won't invent one.)



Current network status — the ugly parts included

The chain runs a mainnet beta. "Mainnet beta" is a designation, not a security claim. Concretely:

  • The k=8 hardening of the Module-SIS gate was activated at block 213,000 — and reverted. It multiplied mining difficulty ~4096x, the current solo/low hashrate could not find blocks, and the chain stalled. k=8 will re-activate together with a matched difficulty reduction (keeping ~30s blocks). Until then, the relaxed k=4 regime applies and the lattice work is trivially forgeable; real security today is only the cumulative SHAKE-256 hashcash work.
  • Very few nodes. Low hashrate. A motivated attacker can 51% this network today. If you run a node or mine, you are strengthening research infrastructure — not joining an economy.
  • Mining is solo only for now: Stratum V1/V2 has no field for a lattice solution vector, so pool mining is disabled until a SIS-native pool protocol exists.



Run a node / mine (if you understand the above)

Prereqs: Rust (stable), clang, cmake, pkg-config.

Code:
git clone <the repo above> bloch && cd bloch
cargo build --release

# relay node
./target/release/bloch --testnet --data-dir ./bloch-data \
  --listen /ip4/0.0.0.0/tcp/16110

# solo miner
./target/release/bloch --testnet --mine --data-dir ./bloch-data

Yes, --testnet on mainnet beta — the flag name is historical and selects the live chain; a rename ships in a later release. Seed list is empty by design: bootstrap with --peer <multiaddr> using any node already on the network — including one posted in this thread. Ports: 16110 P2P, 16210 RPC (keep local). Docker and Fly.io configs ship in the repo.

To be blunt about the economics one more time: coins mined here carry no value claim. Mine to exercise the machinery and add hashrate to a young network.



Who is behind this

I'm Tiago Tenório ("TT"), founder of Postern Labs Inc. (Delaware). Postern Labs builds owned, permissively-licensed privacy/security products (vault, PQ file drop, messenger, wallet, a reproducible OS) on top of the ownerless protocol — the BlackBerry model: we sell protection and support, never the coin. Postern Labs has no privileged role in the protocol beyond my fully disclosed, structurally passive 17% premine. Everything product-side is also pre-production and unaudited, labelled as such per item:

https://posternlabs.com

Postern ≠ Bloch, and that separation is the whole point: https://posternlabs.com/postern-vs-bloch.html



What would actually help

In rough order of value:

  • Attacks on the Module-SIS PoW design — even on-paper, against the canonical k=8 regime
  • Consensus / reorg edge cases on the GhostDAG-Q DAG
  • ASERT-Lattice difficulty manipulation
  • IBD and networking failures
  • Build failures on your platform

File issues publicly in the repo — there is no private steward to whisper to. Break it, then tell everyone.



Standing commitments

  • Never sell you the coin. No sale, no listing effort, no "ecosystem fund", no yield marketing.
  • Never ship a security claim before its audit. Protocol and product claims are separate and each is audit-gated.
  • Never embed copyleft, never close the source.
  • No tracking anywhere — the website makes zero network requests beyond its own pages.

Full disclaimer (it wins over anything anyone says, including me on a good day): https://posternlabs.com/disclaimer.html

This topic is intentionally NOT self-moderated. Criticism, audits and attack write-ups are the contribution we're asking for.

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POSTING NOTES (not part of the post):
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- Board: Alternate cryptocurrencies → Announcements (Altcoins)
- Do NOT self-moderate the topic — it matches the honesty framing and BitcoinTalk users distrust self-moderated ANNs.
- Consider posting a first reply reserving space ("Reserved") for network updates (k=8 re-activation, audit status, peer multiaddrs).
- If you can, include one live peer multiaddr in the thread so people have something to bootstrap from.
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Today at 12:10:57 AM
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TOPIC TITLE (paste in the "Subject" field):
[ANN] Bloch-SIS-PoW — post-quantum pure-PoW BlockDAG | mainnet beta | NO ICO, NO sale, unaudited, 51%-attackable — an honest ANN

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[...]

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POSTING NOTES (not part of the post):
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- Board: Alternate cryptocurrencies → Announcements (Altcoins)
- Do NOT self-moderate the topic — it matches the honesty framing and BitcoinTalk users distrust self-moderated ANNs.
- Consider posting a first reply reserving space ("Reserved") for network updates (k=8 re-activation, audit status, peer multiaddrs).
- If you can, include one live peer multiaddr in the thread so people have something to bootstrap from.

Haha, what a lazy guy

Anyway, how to sync ? It stuck at block 1 since a day
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Postern vs Bloch-SIS-PoW
Two different things, deliberately kept separate. This post explains what each one is, what it is not, and why the protocol has no website.



TL;DR

  • Bloch-SIS-PoW is an ownerless protocol: a post-quantum, pure-PoW BlockDAG. Source code, an RPC surface, and nothing else. Nobody controls it, nobody sells it, and it has no official website — on purpose.
  • Postern Labs Inc. is a company (Delaware) that builds owned, permissively-licensed privacy/security products on top of that protocol. The company has a website. The protocol does not.
  • The relationship is the BlackBerry model: sell protection and support, never the coin.



What Bloch-SIS-PoW is

An ownerless post-quantum Layer-1, written in Rust:

  • Consensus: pure PoW, BlockDAG (GhostDAG-Q), ~30s block target
  • PoW: cumulative SHAKE-256 hashcash work, with a Module-SIS lattice gate as a structural filter on top
  • Signatures: hybrid post-quantum — Falcon ‖ ML-DSA
  • Difficulty: ASERT-Lattice
  • License: MIT / Apache-2.0, per crate — no copyleft

"Ownerless" is meant literally: no foundation, no company, no privileged seed nodes (DEFAULT_SEEDS = [] in the source), no curator, no node with a special role. The protocol is fully defined by its repository:

Code:
gitlab.com/blochsispow-group/BlochSISPoW-project

Standing disclosures, same as in the ANN: no ICO, no sale, no listing effort, unaudited, nascent network (currently 51%-attackable), PoW currently in the relaxed k=4 regime in which the lattice work is trivially forgeable. The coin carries no value claim.



What Postern Labs is

Postern Labs Inc. (Delaware) is a company. It builds owned products — a vault, a PQ file drop, a messenger, a wallet, a reproducible OS — that use the Bloch chain the way an email client uses SMTP. The products are commercial, branded, supported, and have a website:

https://posternlabs.com

Postern Labs has no privileged role in the protocol. Its only protocol-level position is the founder's fully disclosed, structurally passive 17% premine (10-year cliff, 40-year linear vest, verifiable on-chain). The company cannot mint, freeze, censor, upgrade, or veto anything on the chain. If Postern Labs disappeared tomorrow, the protocol would not notice.



The differences, side by side

Bloch-SIS-PoWPostern Labs
What it isOwnerless protocolDelaware company
OwnerNobodyFounder (disclosed)
WebsiteNone, by designposternlabs.com
Revenue modelNone — no value claimSells products & support, never the coin
GovernanceNone — code + PoW onlyNormal corporate governance (products only)
Trust anchorThe repository + your own nodeBrand, contracts, audits (pending)
Can it die?Only if every node stopsYes — without affecting the protocol



Why Bloch has no website

This is the question we get most, so here is the reasoning in full:

1. A website implies an owner. Someone registers the domain, someone pays the hosting, someone edits the content. That someone becomes the de facto voice of the protocol — exactly the role Bloch is designed not to have. An "official site" for an ownerless protocol is a contradiction in terms.

2. A website is a central point of failure and capture. Domains get seized, hijacked, expired, and phished. If the canonical source of truth is a domain, the protocol's integrity depends on ICANN, a registrar, and whoever holds the login. If the canonical source of truth is the repository plus the code your own node runs, there is nothing to seize.

3. A website is where value claims are born. Every altcoin site converges on the same thing: a roadmap, a chart, a "buy" button. Bloch makes no value claim, so it refuses the venue where value claims are made. What you can verify is the code; what you should trust is your own node.

4. Precedent. Bitcoin's whitepaper and code mattered; bitcoin.org was never the protocol. Bloch just takes the next step and skips the site entirely.

So the canonical references are, in order:

  • The repository (plain text on purpose — no official site exists, and we won't invent one):
Code:
gitlab.com/blochsispow-group/BlochSISPoW-project

If you ever see a "Bloch official website", a "Bloch team" DM, or a "Bloch token sale" — it is a scam by definition. There is no entity that could legitimately run any of those.

posternlabs.com is not the Bloch website. It is the website of one company that builds on Bloch and says so explicitly: https://posternlabs.com/postern-vs-bloch.html



This separation is not marketing. It is the design. Postern needs Bloch to be ownerless, because products built on a protocol the vendor controls are just a database with extra steps.
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Today at 09:30:46 AM
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TOPIC TITLE (paste in the "Subject" field):
[ANN] Bloch-SIS-PoW — post-quantum pure-PoW BlockDAG | mainnet beta | NO ICO, NO sale, unaudited, 51%-attackable — an honest ANN

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BODY (BBCode — paste below):
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[...]

============================================================
POSTING NOTES (not part of the post):
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- Board: Alternate cryptocurrencies → Announcements (Altcoins)
- Do NOT self-moderate the topic — it matches the honesty framing and BitcoinTalk users distrust self-moderated ANNs.
- Consider posting a first reply reserving space ("Reserved") for network updates (k=8 re-activation, audit status, peer multiaddrs).
- If you can, include one live peer multiaddr in the thread so people have something to bootstrap from.

Haha, what a lazy guy

Anyway, how to sync ? It stuck at block 1 since a day

Forget they will not reply they are premining now act like they do not hear you my node from 3 days not in sync. The repo is empty there is no source code to build from and in basics they dont care because of premining. No seed nodes no info about nodes at all in basics looks like pure scam in my opinion.
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@13y85t, @Hashrateoptions — fair questions, and one fair hit. In order:

1. Yes, the OP formatting is embarrassing. I pasted my own drafting scaffold ("POSTING NOTES") straight into the post. Lazy is accurate — that one's on me. OP has now been cleaned up. The content stands.

2. The repository is not empty. Direct link, clickable this time:

https://gitlab.com/blochsispow-group/BlochSISPoW-project

Public, MIT/Apache-2.0, 50+ commits on main, README and LICENSE at the root. In the OP the URL was rendered inside a code block without https:// — if you copied it into the address bar and landed on the group page or a 404, that's likely what happened. If a clean git clone of the link above fails for you, post the exact error here.

3. Why your node is stuck at block 1 — and why that's expected without a peer. There are no hardcoded seed nodes: DEFAULT_SEEDS = [] is deliberate (no privileged infrastructure, stated in the OP). A fresh node started without --peer has nobody to talk to, so it sits at genesis forever. The OP said a bootstrap multiaddr would be posted in this thread — and I hadn't posted one yet. That gap is my failure in practice, not yours. Fixed now.

Live bootstrap peer (a node I run; it has no special role in the protocol, it's just a peer you can dial):

Code:
/ip4/<IP>/tcp/16110/p2p/<PEER_ID>

Full setup from zero:

Prereqs: Rust (stable), clang, cmake, pkg-config.

Code:
git clone https://gitlab.com/blochsispow-group/BlochSISPoW-project bloch
cd bloch
cargo build --release

# relay node, bootstrapping from the peer above
./target/release/bloch --testnet --data-dir ./bloch-data \
  --listen /ip4/0.0.0.0/tcp/16110 \
  --peer /ip4/<IP>/tcp/16110/p2p/<PEER_ID>

# solo miner
./target/release/bloch --testnet --mine --data-dir ./bloch-data \
  --peer /ip4/<IP>/tcp/16110/p2p/<PEER_ID>

Reminder from the OP: --testnet is a historical flag name and selects the live chain (rename ships later). P2P is 16110; RPC is 16210 and should stay local. Once the peer connects you should see IBD start in the logs within seconds and tips advancing past genesis.

If it still won't sync after dialing the peer above, paste your startup log here — networking/IBD failures are explicitly on the "what would actually help" list.

4. "They are premining." The premine is 17%, disclosed in the OP with the exact terms: 10-year cliff, 40-year linear vest, structurally passive, verifiable on-chain from genesis. Nothing about it is hidden, and nothing about it touches PoW issuance: every block reward since genesis is open to anyone running the miner above. Until this post there was no public bootstrap peer, which I understand looked bad — that was an operational failure, now corrected, not a design choice.

5. "Pure scam in my opinion." Skepticism is the correct default posture on this board and I won't argue you out of it. I'll just note what the OP already states: no ICO, no sale, no listings, nothing for sale in this thread or anywhere else — there is no mechanism by which money moves from you to me. Clone it, run it, attack it. Attack write-ups are the contribution this thread is asking for.
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