Is gambling also referred as investment?

[JoyceBTC]

Have a colleague at work place who keeps saying that gambling is also investment that in gambling whatever amount you use to gamble can actually yield back the results, he emphasize on that if you are gambling you should do the best to use a better amount to place your bet so that if you win then you gonna have good pay out.

Did your friend ever think of when you use a bigger amount, and you lose out everything? Gambling is just a game of luck, despite there are some people who use it as a source of income but it can never be compared to investment. Your friend has a very wrong impression about investment, gambling is not investment and investment is not gambling.

[Webutxo]

Gambling is not an investment and should never be regarded as one. The pattern at which gambling operates is very different from how an investment works. You can’t invest into something that your expected ROI is based on 50/50 and your risk are so high that you can’t contain them when the losses come. Gambling is more better putting into the category of side hustle, rather than it being called another means of income. Gambling is a game of luck, and for that reason that you can’t learn from past losses in gambling, it is not befitting to be called an investment properly.

The way we ask some questions makes me think that it's either we know what we are doing and just questions because we want to ask or we don't care to learn. The money some people have loss on gambling this year alone, if they use that amount of money to make investment into some altcoins, they may not have gotten the profit they want but they may still have half of their capital remaining but I don't think 1/3 of the capital will remain if it's gambling.

You know what's dangerous about gambling, you can claim to know how to gamble but after many trials you will understand that gambling is the worst place to try as investment. There is nothing you can fall back to when it comes to gambling, you either risk it and lose it or you lose everything. That's how gambling is but but if you do futures with leverage trading, I will say you are also gambler, that's worst than trading sometimes.

[ChocolateBitcoinK]

Have a colleague at work place who keeps saying that gambling is also investment that in gambling whatever amount you use to gamble can actually yield back the results, he emphasize on that if you are gambling you should do the best to use a better amount to place your bet so that if you win then you gonna have good pay out.

Did your friend ever think of when you use a bigger amount, and you lose out everything? Gambling is just a game of luck, despite there are some people who use it as a source of income but it can never be compared to investment. Your friend has a very wrong impression about investment, gambling is not investment and investment is not gambling.

Yes, there are many people who make gambling an investment, they have the mentality that they are making an investment and from here they will definitely make a profit, they have the mentality of making a sure profit. In gambling, the results mainly depend on luck, where in the long run most of the participants face losses. On the other hand, the basis of investment is research, risk assessment, patience and long-term planning.

But if a person does not understand these things, then I think that he does not have any real knowledge. If someone enters the market with the hope of quick profits, makes decisions without research or buys on emotion, then I believe that his behavior is completely like gambling. If we want to achieve something good in a business or an investment, first we have to research it thoroughly, consider the risks, Because no one can achieve success with 100% surety. So it is clear that an investment can be a gamble if we manage that investment completely unrealistically, but a gamble can never be an investment, no matter how well we do it.

[Finestream]

Gambling can only turn as an investment if you are owning a casino business and you invest all your efforts and hard-earned money into it, that's investment. You will yield an income even tenfold of your capital if that casino successfully operates for long term.

However, if you are just a sole gambler who's continuously trying to take an edge over the house, which is certainly impossible, then you cannot say that what you are doing is an investment. You will lose and even mess up with your bankroll if you gamble irresponsibly, so definitely that's not how an investment works. An investment will guarantee a future income, gambling will only guarantee losses.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

But on the contrary, if you uses same amount to gamble when you lose it there is no way to get it back and there is no possibility of winning, in fact the chances are 50/50 base.

Gambling and investing are two different things that should not be confused for another, an investor can be gambling when he does not understand the asset he's investing into. There are lots of investors that what they are doing are gambling instead of researching and understanding what they are getting theirself into and that is why this set of people are quick to sell when they encounter any difficulty in the market. The real ones that took their time to do their research understands how the market operates so they won't be scared when they see things happening that they have already studied about.

Investing gives you an opportunity to hold on to your asset until it regains it's value but gambling doesn't give you such privileges, if you lose in gambling you have lost everything.

Gambling gives you an opportunity to make fast money but that isn't how investing operates, investing teaches you to appreciate your money more since it will take you some time to acquire it and this makes it impossible for you to lose it all from being careless as you will have gained experience through your hodling days.

[Decimetre]

But on the contrary, if you uses same amount to gamble when you lose it there is no way to get it back and there is no possibility of winning, in fact the chances are 50/50 base.

Gambling and investing are two different things that should not be confused for another, an investor can be gambling when he does not understand the asset he's investing into. There are lots of investors that what they are doing are gambling instead of researching and understanding what they are getting theirself into and that is why this set of people are quick to sell when they encounter any difficulty in the market. The real ones that took their time to do their research understands how the market operates so they won't be scared when they see things happening that they have already studied about.

Investing gives you an opportunity to hold on to your asset until it regains it's value but gambling doesn't give you such privileges, if you lose in gambling you have lost everything.

Gambling gives you an opportunity to make fast money but that isn't how investing operates, investing teaches you to appreciate your money more since it will take you some time to acquire it and this makes it impossible for you to lose it all from being careless as you will have gained experience through your hodling days.

You're very correct sir. Investment is different from gambling because investment focuses on what an asset can offer in the future while gambling focuses on the immediate greed of the gambler. The gambler can go all in even when he knows that he has a 50-50 chances of loosing his money because he thinks that if he eventually wins, he will be the rich guy but investors don't go that way. They invest gradually because they believe that they're saving for the future and needs not to rush about it.

Gambling  is a game of luck while investment is more like a game of trust. You trust what you have understood and you invest because you trust the process. Gambling has higher chances of ruining a gambler's wealth whereas investment builds wealth. Gambling is addictive while investment is professional and more realistic and controllable.

[TheUltraElite]

The only investment in gambling is if you are investing in the casino bankroll.

Playing on the casino means you are exposing yourself to the risk of losing money and I dont consider this as investment. In investments you have some asset in hand at the end of the starting transaction, like a stock/share/stablecoin/altcoin/fiat. In gambling you dont have that, you have put the money in the machine and its gone already, unless your luck is good and you get it back with something extra.

Games of luck cannot be considered investment in my opinion, however certain people might want to stretch it a lot.

[Rockson1]

Have a colleague at work place who keeps saying that gambling is also investment that in gambling whatever amount you use to gamble can actually yield back the results, he emphasize on that if you are gambling you should do the best to use a better amount to place your bet so that if you win then you gonna have good pay out.

Your colleague got somethings wrong and I'm glad that you were not misled by his theory, gambling is not an investment and it can never be, I think he is far from understanding what gambling is, gambling is more of a game of luck which means gamblers should not gamble and hope that they must win, anyone who understands what luck is will not advice anyone to gamble with huge amount because it is possible that you may not win and what happens after a gambler has gambled with big funds and end up losing it, of course regret will set in right, perhaps because the gambler refused to stake within an appropriate budget, your colleague did not thought of losing at all when he said bet with a reasonable amount to win a higher amount when luck shines.

[Obulis]

Even if just a simple no gambling is not the same investing, that answers it all!

In as much as both requires capital inputs and risk, investment depends basically on value creation and long term expectancy relying on economic advantages or growth
Gambling is more of luck oriented where there's little or no chance even with your analysis and the chances of profit is way too slim for the gamblers as history may have. In gambling the gambling companies are more favoured than the gamblers.
Now to think of it, in Bitcoin trading that has been referred to as gambling is it not obvious that trading don't favor the traders all the time compared to Bitcoin investment that has all the attribute of investment as other investment?

[Antotena]

The only investment in gambling is if you are investing in the casino bankroll.

Playing on the casino means you are exposing yourself to the risk of losing money and I dont consider this as investment. In investments you have some asset in hand at the end of the starting transaction, like a stock/share/stablecoin/altcoin/fiat. In gambling you dont have that, you have put the money in the machine and its gone already, unless your luck is good and you get it back with something extra.

Games of luck cannot be considered investment in my opinion, however certain people might want to stretch it a lot.

I don't know the level of casino branding but gambling is gambling and can never be considered as investment. The only thing I can consider to be an investment as gambling is if you buy casino token. For example, Rollbit casino has a token, the coin had it moment firing 2024 but now they are done. If there are people that invested on them before that time went higher, then that's the best gambling investment I think they have done for their self.

Any Bankroll that is deposited into the casino is not an investment, they are stake waiting to be used because any money you stake or bet on casino sport and games, there is no chance of recovery. Some casino may allow you to make some recovery or cashout that same bet if it's has not been played but once the event you bet on started, you are not getting that money back again, which is not an investment.

[yudi09]

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Is he right from what you think?

That’s not true because gambling and investing are different. Investing is aimed at generating long-term profits, while gambling is an activity that can result in immediate losses; moreover, gambling today is largely regulated by established systems.
Your friend judges it based on how much he’s deposited versus how much money he’s won. In one week, he noted that he spent $500, so he considers himself a winner when he wins more than $500.

[Natalim]

Gambling is short-term, your profit opportunity is gone once the game ends, while investment is for long term, the longer you'll hold it, the more compounding of investment income appears. So gambling is not an investment, but its the total opposite instead.

However, for professional gamblers, they could be seeing their bankroll as their investment capital, but since the game comes with the random outcomes, so its not actually pure investment where productive growth can be maximized.

But for casino owners and operators, gambling will always be their big investment because it guarantees them productive income.

[Mpamaegbu]

Have a colleague at work place who keeps saying that gambling is also investment that in gambling whatever amount you use to gamble can actually yield back the results...

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Is he right from what you think?

I had a kinsman (now deceased) who had an irrational way of equating money used in recharging mobile phones as gambling. It was funny to me. He didn't fancy the use of mobile phone and would find that as an excuse to justify his gambling habit, accusing those who used mobile phones as gamblers like him. He was a chronic gambler. I think people who take up guilt for their gambling activities have a weird way of justifying it. It's funny.

On the whole, to put it short; gambling isn't investment.

[mirakal]

We all have different experiences from gambling. If you are one of those who consistently make profits from gambling, either through luck or your irresistible skills, then let's assume that you are seeing an investment with gambling.

However, a good investment is designed for long term profitability, but I don't think that's applicable in gambling. Regardless if you are good or skilled enough, gambling outcomes are still based on chances and probability, so you can't tell that everything will end up with positive results, unlike a good investment, you will be sure enough that it will end up with massive profits especially if you start diversifying your investments.

[macson]

Is he right from what you think?

Your friend doesn't know about gambling and investing. If he did, he wouldn't equate the two. Gambling is more about taking a risk based on chance. Investing, on the other hand, involves putting your money into an asset with value and expecting a return. The two are distinctly different no matter how you look at them.

So, your friend is just being ignorant and trying to act smart, when in reality, he's just showing off his ignorance.

[Glen Hoddle]

The person is wrong for thinking that, especially on the aspect of seeing gambling as a place to multiply your money. We take risks to invest money in something, but the risk is not the same as gambling. Gambling has more risk. Taking some points from the example you gave, if you invest in something, even if its value drops, there is more chance of it increasing over time than the chance you have to recover lost money in gambling, looking at gambling as an investment is a wrong way to view it.

Yes, gambling should not be seen as an investment in any way, it is risky and if you lose money once, it is impossible to recover the money in the second year. So, it is not at all advisable to enter gambling with the intention of earning money in any way, yes, you can enter gambling for fun.
Even if you are in the midst of losing money in trading, if you keep it as an investment for the long term, you can be sure of making a profit, but gambling is a completely different matter. It is basically a misconception that gambling will generate high income by earning money, gambling is basically for fun.

[Peanutswar]

In investment there is a fluctuation and volatility not all the time is a win so there is a chance the price goes down or up depends on the demand of the market and how does the project goes, now the investment only becomes a gambling if you went straight to buy their token or even shares without having a prior knowledge what are their project such as their road maps and if the developers or the owner of the project still looking forward for the potential or else you will just waste your money, and time and your investment becomes a liquidity exit.

[crwth]

I mean, your colleague is not wrong in terms of using money to make money. It can be, but the mechanics of earning rely on chance, and that's not a good way to treat your investment, TBH.

Imagine: why would you even trust or rely on chance? Might as well buy lottery tickets.

Better see it differently. Like asking yourself, if I put money in this in an X amount of time, would I earn X%  in profit for this? Usually, it's the horizon where you look at investments. It's definitely not something like gambling.

[LogitechMouse]

Re: Is gambling also referred as investment?

First of all, let's get the general definition of investing coming from a quick google search.

Investing, you buy part of a business (such as stocks or real estate) with real value and can earn.

If you invest, you will get a part of the business or in the case of cryptocurrency, you will get the coin. In gambling, you will not get any asset at all. In investing, you expect a positive income over the course of years (with some factors of course), but in gambling, you will expect to lose in the long run because we know that the odds always favors the home (house edge). This comparison alone for me is enough to say that gambling isn't investment at all if we will get the general definition of investing.

For some, they might see gambling as a form of investment as they put money into it, but let's not forget that there are some differences on both of them especially with how a person make or lose money, and the outcome of it in the long term.

[Bd officer]

Have a colleague at work place who keeps saying that gambling is also investment that in gambling whatever amount you use to gamble can actually yield back the results, he emphasize on that if you are gambling you should do the best to use a better amount to place your bet so that if you win then you gonna have good pay out.
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Is he right from what you think?

Everyone here has said that gambling and investment are not the same so I don't need to say it separately.

I think your colleague has very little knowledge about investment or does not understand the difference between investment and gambling. Maybe he has never invested? Investment and gambling have different characteristics which we all know. If you invest in Bitcoin then there is no risk of losing all your money. But if you lose the gambler there is a risk of losing all your money. Your colleague has asked you to bet with a large amount of money which may be wrong. So you should stay away from your colleague and you should advise your colleague to gamble with money that he can lose.

Finally I would like to say that if you compare it with the investment in memecoin or shitcoin, then it is not wrong to consider gambling as an investment.