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Author Topic: Signature Ban Appeal and Q&A : appeal your sigban here  (Read 4830 times)
Fivestar4everMVP
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Today at 09:47:10 AM
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I see this is causing quite a stir on the forum. I thought there would just be a few signature bans here and there, but nutildah has come out swinging. I hope he finds a balance. Once he's been given that power and has started the task, there's a little risk he'll end up overdoing it. But if he continues to sig ban users in a reasonable manner, this will clearly be a net positive for the forum.
I was checking those that Nutildah has banned their signature, they have almost the same pattern of posting as they are posting just mostly on the gambling mega thread and posting just on gambling threads that are not new. Almost all their posts are on the gambling board. Some people that got the merit and smerit airdrops are doing this but there are some people that were serious before, get to hero and start the bad posting and because of that getting no merit again.
I have a simple question to ask you bro...
Is there any where it's stated in the forum rule that a user must not post only in the gambling/gambling discussion board if this is the area they have the most knowledge on?

OK, let's just say I am a gambler, I gamble a lot and as such, love to participate in all kinds of gambling discussions, and I don't spam, or post burst, do you consider it impressive that I must participate in discussions on other subjects even if I lack clear understanding in or of those subjects? Is this not an invitation to spam?

And speaking of the merit system, it's centralized and it's a failure, agree with me or not, that's up to you..
And you see this sigban of a stuff ongoing, some of us know what this is all about, we know who and who is being targeted, just same way he who is given a yam and a knife decides who eats and who stays hungry..
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Today at 10:20:32 AM
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I have a simple question to ask you bro...
Is there any where it's stated in the forum rule that a user must not post only in the gambling/gambling discussion board if this is the area they have the most knowledge on?
I do not think your account deserve that signature ban because you have good topics which still show that you were making efforts but almost all your posts are on the gambling board. Changing that will really help you.

And speaking of the merit system, it's centralized and it's a failure, agree with me or not, that's up to you..
Do not expect merit when you are posting on gambling board, everybody know that most gambling board posts are not earning merits.

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Today at 10:23:01 AM
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As a newbie, you have no idea if there's a lot of spam on the forum or not! You're a veteran member who probably has dozens of alt accounts and now you're presenting arguments because you're probably afraid some of them might get banned.
What are used now as solutions to fight against spam is like doing something on tip of an iceberg, and it will not prevent spammers.

  • Merit system successfully prevented spammers ranked up.
  • Before it failed when merit sources got more merits, and merits to shitposts were allowed gradually with time. That is like legally allowing spammers to rank up.
  • Why we don't start at this point, fix the merit system? It will resolve the cause, rather than trying to cut grass on tip of the ground.
  • If continue using this solution, it's like (again) another legal allowance towards spammers: like it's ok, you can farm merit, rank up, post shit, get money until we catch you.
  • They farmed merit, and they must lose their ranks.
  • Bring the demerit button, community can report merited shitposts, to derank spammers. They will stop posting from such accounts and will not rank up their new accounts in their old ways that now can not be used without losing ranks.
  • Furthermore, it will return to a harder time for spammer to rank up again like how merit system succeeded years ago.
  • Spammers ranked up by farming, already results in many things: spam endemic in the forum, they got merit undeservedly and made it harder to other people to rank up - like merit sources and forum members will feel harder to send merit, they suspect about many things; lastly such beautiful merited accounts can easily be accepted in campaigns because they had more merit totally and in last 120 days while in quality they are shitposters and even worse than accounts with lower merits.

Lastly, I feel like the forum accepts that things can happen shadily in local boards and ignore it, until such shitposters after ranking up by local boards start to bring their shitposts to English boards.

Think:
If we force spammers to rank up by posting good, we force them to have a good writing habit, and when they ranked up already, they will more likely post good, or at least better than spammers.

Let's create a community-led/ reported thread to demerit them in decentralized way.

A person who ranked up from posting good will make it a writing and posting habit and will not lose it after ranking up to Hero member or Legendary member rank, whereas the spammers who ranked up by shitposts to Hero/ Legendary member rank will continue his habit (writing shitposts). While with time, the farm becomes bigger and more shits around.

 
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Today at 10:49:39 AM
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I have a simple question to ask you bro...
Is there any where it's stated in the forum rule that a user must not post only in the gambling/gambling discussion board if this is the area they have the most knowledge on?

No, there isn't.


I do not think your account deserve that signature ban because you have good topics which still show that you were making efforts but almost all your posts are on the gambling board. Changing that will really help you.

This case makes me doubt too. I haven't taken the time to look at every single banned user, but of the ones I know, this is the case where I'm least convinced he deserves a signature ban.

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Today at 12:04:40 PM
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I have a simple question to ask you bro...
Is there any where it's stated in the forum rule that a user must not post only in the gambling/gambling discussion board if this is the area they have the most knowledge on?

No, there isn't.


I do not think your account deserve that signature ban because you have good topics which still show that you were making efforts but almost all your posts are on the gambling board. Changing that will really help you.

This case makes me doubt too. I haven't taken the time to look at every single banned user, but of the ones I know, this is the case where I'm least convinced he deserves a signature ban.
99% of his posts are generic and useless trash that I could write in 30 seconds each, which confirms that he is creating them solely to get a payout. That igebotz merited this also confirms that he is one of the many farmed up accounts. The forum does not need this kind of shit, and were people like this filtered then the average quality of each post would rise substantially.

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