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Today at 12:28:10 AM
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What do you think are the other things we should look at to change the situation and become profitable in the long run, like the few successful sports bettors?

Please tell me specific things, and explain why they are important and how we can use them.

If we are talking about publicly available information, then I think there is no much stuff to point out to, you know?

Though, I agree with you that thinking too much and doing too much research or analysis can actually make us lose much time and actually not finding any additional value on our bets. Ironically, there are bettors who do not do much research and yet, they manage to get some good wins on sports and other markets, like political markets on Polymarkets and Kalshi.
One simply reaches a point in which there is nothing more of value to be found through analysis and one just wastes times on data which is pretty much worthless.

Also, after doing one's research there must be some room for one's gut feeling. Ironically, one can get some scores out if it as well, even if does not make any sense at all.

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Today at 12:34:51 AM
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Would you believe me if I said that focusing too much on stats would just make you lose more?

What do you think are the other things we should look at to change the situation and become profitable in the long run, like the few successful sports bettors?

Please tell me specific things, and explain why they are important and how we can use them.
When people compare two teams, they compare them based on past statistics, especially if I discuss football or cricket, then if statistics are done between India and Australia, then the difference in win-loss between Australia and India's statistics is very high. From that point of view, if you want to bet on a match, then you don't have to bet more than once based on statistics alone. In this case, you have to consider the players, venue, pitch conditions, dominance of fast bowlers and spinners, etc. and then take a bet. In short, by looking at sports betting statistics alone, you cannot make any prediction about which team will win. In this case, you have to look at statistics along with several other factors and then make a prediction.

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Today at 12:52:07 AM
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I actually do not think so , focusing on stats helps get analysis right to an extent,but many feels statistics is a sure way to win bet and can be 100% guarantee,that is why it feels like people who focuses so much ,loses so much as well,it all depends on how they treat it ,if not betting cannot be viewed in such a way ,so to reduce the loses ,we should minimize the way we think about stat and also channel our energy in other method .

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Today at 01:13:06 AM
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I'll say this, the focus on statistics on sports gambling does little to nothing. Entropy is still a thing and there's heavy house edge on sports bets. It can even be 10%. So whatever edge you get from statistics does little to nothing.

I'd say focus on finding better odds. If you manage to find a casino with offers of lower house edge, which is a frequent promo lately, and also many casinos offer rakeback even on sports betting. These are features that can enable value betting along with spotting good odds much more than just watching statistics. Because even with statistics entropy and house edge end up fucking you over in the end.


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Today at 01:28:05 AM
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Looking up the stats all the time could make you blindly trust a team way more than you should, but it's still good enough to rely on when even the bookmakers adjust their odds for each team as the season goes on.

Aside from stats, the other resources I suggest focusing are replays, highlights, and injury news. Sometimes all it takes is one missing key player for a good team to become mediocre on the field, and watching matches could give you a better perspective on certain situations that the stats fail to highlight on the scoreboard.

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Today at 01:39:46 AM
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It depends on whether the player can use the statistics or not. The analogy is that we can swim in the same sea, but that doesn't mean we're in the same water. We can look at the statistics clearly on the web site or whatever it is to assess the steps we will take in betting decisions but it does not mean we are in focus to bet on the same bet because all have their own thoughts that according to them will be profitable.

Staying too long on statistics I would agree because it could be that this will make us lose more often but here statistics remain an important part that we must pay attention to before we actually bet.

What I feel here is that when we talk about the statistics of a person or a team it will actually make our confidence too big because we can be stuck in the past where h2h or final results but do not pay attention to other club conditions such as injury factors or card penalties and more.
So that your assumption is not completely wrong but I would not say that this is completely true either.

 
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Today at 02:06:26 AM
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It's not that focusing solely on statistics will make a bettor lose, but it's not the only thing to consider. There's also the luck factor, as statistics can say one thing and the result can be completely different. For me, betting has more to do with what you think than simply numbers. I generally follow my hunches; of course, I'm not always right, but many times I let my "intuition" decide. For example, if I were to base my lottery bets on statistics in my country, where the odds are 1 in 50,063,860 with a simple bet (six numbers), I would never bet.

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Today at 02:25:16 AM
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I actually do not think so , focusing on stats helps get analysis right to an extent,but many feels statistics is a sure way to win bet and can be 100% guarantee,that is why it feels like people who focuses so much ,loses so much as well,it all depends on how they treat it ,if not betting cannot be viewed in such a way ,so to reduce the loses ,we should minimize the way we think about stat and also channel our energy in other method .
Obviously there is no certainty that is a guarantee in gambling to get a win, now with sports betting that there are indeed statistics that can be relied on to win but even so does not mean defeat will not happen, as well as any effort we do defeat will still definitely happen. And it's not wrong also I think focus on statistics because the goal is to win but the fear is because too focused this can make betting difficult to dismiss, as you said all depends on how they react to it, and precisely a big loss will not happen if we can bet with according to our ability, according to limits and money that is ready to be harmed.
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Today at 02:41:06 AM
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I have always analyzed (basically) data from my games and any output that I have data about.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1234109.0 here few of my bets recorded on the forum.

Has no sense focusing too much on this kind of analsysis but this become absolutely necessary to understand where / why you lose or you win.

Basic example =
Every 10 bets I can realize 1 lose. Every 20 bets I would acquire 1 lose = no matter what odd I choose.
The solution has been ... change and adapt amount to gamble after consecutive wins.






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Today at 03:12:31 AM
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Would you believe me if I said that focusing too much on stats would just make you lose more?

Or perhaps you're not focusing enough on the stats? Or perhaps your stats might be limited to just a few numbers? Is it also possible you've got the wrong appreciation of the stats. After all, raw stats could simply provide you with numbers. How those numbers end up as they are would still be analyzed.

Finally, it's one thing to often succeed in making correct predictions based on stats, but it's quite another to be profitable in the end. Betting isn't just true-or-false. You've also got to make the most of the odds as well.

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Today at 04:06:11 AM
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I disagree with you in saying that excessive focus on statistics will only lead to more losses. It can be unhelpful or may cause losses sometimes but it is not correct to say that it will lead to more losses.

Statistics are an important part of gambling but they are not everything. There are other factors that affect gambling, the most important of which is luck because gambling is based on the principle of probability, and probability depends largely on luck.


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Today at 04:13:56 AM
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Would you believe me if I said that focusing too much on stats would just make you lose more?

Here is the logic. Those stats are already there, and everyone can analyze them. I believe most of us, or the public, would probably have the same analysis on the line. But in reality, most of us still lose in the long run. So, it does not make sense if we only look at the stats. It is like saying to ourselves that it is okay to work hard analyzing everything, but we still end up losing.

What do you think are the other things we should look at to change the situation and become profitable in the long run, like the few successful sports bettors?

Please tell me specific things, and explain why they are important and how we can use them.
I don't believe this. Analyzing statistics before betting will increase your confidence. If you want to turn the psychological factors that exist in every person into a coordinated effort, you should analyze them. Analyzing each bet will increase your knowledge. Even if you lose the bet you analyzed for the purpose of betting, you can use that experience in the next bet.

Yes, statistics are created through hard work and today's results will be part of tomorrow's statistics. The future is written based on past statistics. I analyze statistics before every bet because future results are related to the past and present performance of the teams.

You may lose in betting because you are not lucky and the result is never determined based on past statistics. The result is determined by how wisely you bet and how lucky you are.

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Today at 05:18:45 AM
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like the few successful sports bettors?
Who are these successful sports bettors? I don’t think there are any truly successful sports bettors. Rather, there are lucky sports bettors. They were simply lucky, nothing more. In gambling, there is no fixed strategy or method that always works, whether it’s sports betting or traditional casino gambling. If luck isn’t on your side, you won’t win.

As for analyzing statistics before placing a sports bet, I would say it’s a good approach. Whether you ultimately win or lose the bet depends on what happens later, but by analyzing the match beforehand, you can reduce the risk and increase your chances of placing the right bet.

People are always focused on the end goal, but what really matters is the effort you put into analyzing the situation to reach that goal. I would say that analyzing the statistics is always a good thing.

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Today at 05:32:18 AM
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Would you believe me if I said that focusing too much on stats would just make you lose more?

Here is the logic. Those stats are already there, and everyone can analyze them. I believe most of us, or the public, would probably have the same analysis on the line. But in reality, most of us still lose in the long run. So, it does not make sense if we only look at the stats. It is like saying to ourselves that it is okay to work hard analyzing everything, but we still end up losing.

What do you think are the other things we should look at to change the situation and become profitable in the long run, like the few successful sports bettors?

Please tell me specific things, and explain why they are important and how we can use them.

I disagree that analyzing too much makes you loose. Yes it's there and everyone can see and analyze it, but the analysis is different from person to person. When you analyze a lot and then lose, it's just a coincidence. It happens, but it's no, like, a rule.  ... But the most important thing here is not to figure out how to do the analysis to become profitable in the long run. The important thing is to understand that you shouldn't even think about. Make money through your work and use betting only for fun.

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Today at 05:57:57 AM
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Would you believe me if I said that focusing too much on stats would just make you lose more?

Stats are just one tool, and stats can show what happened & trends, but not what will happen. I believe that focusing too much on stats can mislead you... especially if you ignore everything else. And like some other members already wrote, odds already reflect most of them.

What do you think are the other things we should look at to change the situation and become profitable in the long run, like the few successful sports bettors?

Well, discipline! It's like the most important factor... It's something most of us lack. Most of us already know the basics, but very few can stick to the plan when things go wrong. And things will go wrong at some point...

 
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Today at 06:16:17 AM
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It's not that focusing solely on statistics will make a bettor lose, but it's not the only thing to consider. There's also the luck factor, as statistics can say one thing and the result can be completely different. For me, betting has more to do with what you think than simply numbers. I generally follow my hunches; of course, I'm not always right, but many times I let my "intuition" decide. For example, if I were to base my lottery bets on statistics in my country, where the odds are 1 in 50,063,860 with a simple bet (six numbers), I would never bet.
In the case of betting, statistics only give an idea. There are some who want to place bets based on statistics because they think that in the long run, at least the amount of loss will be reduced. However, I think that when everyone follows the same status, it will definitely be difficult to make a profit there. A bettor has to keep an eye on various aspects. One has to observe the betting odds and the condition of the bettors and take a decision after observing the conditions well. There are some bettors who place bets based on the odds, while there are some who only look for favorites. Again, there are some bettors who try to place bets with risk. I use different strategies at different times when placing bets. I do not place bets based only on statistics.

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Today at 06:24:00 AM
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Depend on you because if you do not confuse by the stats you collecting, you will know much the teams and make analysis from your data.  But if you confuse and difficult separating the data based on your research, that will makes you choose the wrong team.

I don't think it is easy to be successful sports bettors in the long run but that still possible. You need to have much resources providing you the data so you can analyze and pick the right team so becoming successful sports bettors don't just have skills, but need good controls over yourself.

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Today at 06:24:41 AM
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Would you believe me if I said that focusing too much on stats would just make you lose more?

Here is the logic. Those stats are already there, and everyone can analyze them. I believe most of us, or the public, would probably have the same analysis on the line. But in reality, most of us still lose in the long run. So, it does not make sense if we only look at the stats. It is like saying to ourselves that it is okay to work hard analyzing everything, but we still end up losing.

What do you think are the other things we should look at to change the situation and become profitable in the long run, like the few successful sports bettors?

Please tell me specific things, and explain why they are important and how we can use them.

Where are these successful bettors in the first place ? Also we need to see their real stats, I know betting expert is one of the services where they show all the stats yet rarely I have seen successful bettors for the long run, also the stats there never show someone good enough over an extended period of time.

The reason we all lose is because the ball is round and it can go anywhere, not because we don't know how to read news and facts. Most people go with the most logical option and that is the problem, if games were logical sport bookies would not exist at all.


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Today at 06:36:36 AM
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That's where people misunderstand why stats are even collected in the first place. Basically stats are just a way for us to measure and estimate the tendency for an outcome to play out not the actual play out of an outcome.
You very correct. Most people usually have a misconception about the essence of cross checking stats in their games. However, checking of stats and all of that in our gambling streak doesn't really means it must give us the actual or desire outcome of our game but a way  of making our prediction to be more easier even if it's not actually guaranteed. However, luck still have to play a crucial role in making things work out well.

That said, personally on how I do my thing,  I don't go wild or try extra mile just to secure win, since that can only put me on more lost, what I usually do is to bet the little I can let go and get ready for whatever the outcome is.

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Today at 06:59:11 AM
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Would you believe me if I said that focusing too much on stats would just make you lose more?

Here is the logic. Those stats are already there, and everyone can analyze them. I believe most of us, or the public, would probably have the same analysis on the line. But in reality, most of us still lose in the long run. So, it does not make sense if we only look at the stats. It is like saying to ourselves that it is okay to work hard analyzing everything, but we still end up losing.

What do you think are the other things we should look at to change the situation and become profitable in the long run, like the few successful sports bettors?

Please tell me specific things, and explain why they are important and how we can use them.
Well, we dont really have the choice because we know that the primary thing that you must do when making up a bet is to look into those statistics for you to be able to check on which one is better. If you dont see these stats then what would be your basis with your bets, pure gut? It doesnt work that way, even though predicting isnt precise but it is that much more better that you are wary into those numbers so that you would be having a basis in compared when you do just bet based on your instincts or visuals and it doesnt make sense on this case. If you are really serious on making up some bets and make it that somewhat having that bigger chance of winning then looking up these stats will really be having sense in compared when you dont really make checks after all, even though its not precise but at least its the most common way on doing it.

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