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Today at 11:11:48 AM
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They say numbers don't lie, but unfortunately on paper this could be true but when game day arrives the performances depend on human effort which makes this a whole different ball game and what the stats don't account for !
So when it comes to gambling, don't base everything on stats, sometimes your gut feeling is all you need to hit those wins because of you fall for those small odds being safe bets you are more likely to lose more money in the long term!

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Today at 11:25:45 AM
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I wouldn't dispute that there are experienced gamblers who know beyond the odds level. For me, odds have been a good guide in my sports betting adventure.
"The average gambler gets fleeced." These are the words of H-bob, a poker player who turned to sports betting and heavily leveraged statistical analysis to win games. Casinos focus more on the pros with multiple entries on a game, and players who gamble based on stats but bet on a single entry fail to realize that they're in the same game with players who have more than 1000 tickets. Such players are ready to lose in more than 800 entries, but the wins from the rest of the tickets would cover all their losses. These kinds of pros are actually the type of gamblers who earn so much from monitoring statistics.

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Today at 11:27:30 AM
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Would you believe me if I said that focusing too much on stats would just make you lose more?

Here is the logic. Those stats are already there, and everyone can analyze them. I believe most of us, or the public, would probably have the same analysis on the line. But in reality, most of us still lose in the long run. So, it does not make sense if we only look at the stats. It is like saying to ourselves that it is okay to work hard analyzing everything, but we still end up losing.

What do you think are the other things we should look at to change the situation and become profitable in the long run, like the few successful sports bettors?

Please tell me specific things, and explain why they are important and how we can use them.

Statistics have an expiration date, and this is the most important point. If I study the previous results of sports meetings between the two teams, then most likely the results of some incredibly old games will be absolutely useless to me. Because over time, the teams change, the coaches change, and so on.
And all this leads to the fact that the statistics become completely immutable for the future match . I know that bookmakers know this perfectly and are able to predict perfectly, but it is quite difficult for us, simple bettors, to take into account absolutely all the factors influencing matches in sports.

 
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Today at 11:28:05 AM
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They say numbers don't lie, but unfortunately on paper this could be true but when game day arrives the performances depend on human effort which makes this a whole different ball game and what the stats don't account for !
So when it comes to gambling, don't base everything on stats, sometimes your gut feeling is all you need to hit those wins because of you fall for those small odds being safe bets you are more likely to lose more money in the long term!
I agree, stats is definitely have a place in a sports/gambling world, but it can only tell a part of the game story. once the match starts, things like the players momentum, pressure, injuries and most importantly which is the individual performances can completely change the result...That said,relying only in our gut feelings can be just as risky as well. So for a good and balanced approach, using stats as a guide while recognizing the unpredictability of sports is usually the best way to do.

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Today at 11:29:35 AM
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Would you believe me if I said that focusing too much on stats would just make you lose more?

Here is the logic. Those stats are already there, and everyone can analyze them. I believe most of us, or the public, would probably have the same analysis on the line. But in reality, most of us still lose in the long run. So, it does not make sense if we only look at the stats. It is like saying to ourselves that it is okay to work hard analyzing everything, but we still end up losing.

What do you think are the other things we should look at to change the situation and become profitable in the long run, like the few successful sports bettors?

Please tell me specific things, and explain why they are important and how we can use them.
Focusing on statistic should be the easy strategy  to predict sportbet, but however sportbet is not that easy to win regardless of the strategy you apply. Apart from betting using stat, there is no more strategy to secure a good winning. Gambling and sportbet wining is just by luck, so I would not assure you that a strategy better than using stat is available. Of course everyone is free to bring up the strategy they know is better.
I don’t think that focusing on statistics should be the easy strategy to predict sport betting, sports betting isn’t just something you think that you can just study statistics and it would determine the outcome of the game, there is always going to be a game that would disappoint by merely looking at statistics, I have done statistics of sports games, reading some papers and some symbols, checking previous encounters, just to determine the statistics also on paper and internet, but unfortunately it didn’t work for me, I know there are individuals who it might have worked for, but I think it’s just merely by luck, however I like to use present forms of the teams and performances in recent games.

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Today at 11:41:21 AM
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Would you believe me if I said that focusing too much on stats would just make you lose more?

What do you think are the other things we should look at to change the situation and become profitable in the long run, like the few successful sports bettors?

Please tell me specific things, and explain why they are important and how we can use them.

Perhaps, stats is not just what you should focus on if you want to make a more informed prediction. Like some persons already mentioned which I would like to tell you my own experience, don't only use stats but also check for new changes in the team you were going bet on, check for lineup, and injuries. If you are using just statics of previous match to just what the outcome of the next match would be, then you probably would lose more unless you are just lucky but using stats can also helpful when combined with those mentioned confluence. Injuries can make a player to be replaced and when that is done without your knowledge, you could still think that the team will be able to win because you only followed the stats, that can cause you to lose your bet. You may also want to visit the previous topic: Do stats actually help, or can they also mislead bettors?

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Today at 11:52:11 AM
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Statistics have an expiration date, and this is the most important point. If I study the previous results of sports meetings between the two teams, then most likely the results of some incredibly old games will be absolutely useless to me. Because over time, the teams change, the coaches change, and so on.
And all this leads to the fact that the statistics become completely immutable for the future match . I know that bookmakers know this perfectly and are able to predict perfectly, but it is quite difficult for us, simple bettors, to take into account absolutely all the factors influencing matches in sports.
Statistics cannot always determine the outcome of a match, especially when looking at the statistics of Argentina and Spain in this FIFA World Cup 2026, it seemed like it would be a contest. Looking at the final game, it seemed like statistics were completely useless. The head-to-head statistics of Argentina and Spain in the World Cup were 50-50, but based on statistics alone, some bet on Argentina as the favorite team, but Argentina failed to compete in the final and past statistics, performance, team balance, everything failed on the day of the final. So statistics sometimes do not vary the outcome of the match, but in many cases, a weak team can perform outstandingly beyond statistics.











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Today at 11:53:29 AM
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I think the problem is not the number of statistics available or the number we use....

And I think that sometimes even the amount of statistics itself can be a problem. Because in a huge flow of information a person gets lost and does not know what to choose. This is especially true for those who do not have a developed understanding of the topic, and accordingly the critical thinking that allows them to filter out unnecessary information. Instead, such people develop an excessive confidence that since the information is available to them, they are now going to start winning. The information is available, sure, but they do not know how to use it. And they place higher bets due to this false confidence.

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Today at 11:54:15 AM
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They say numbers don't lie, but unfortunately on paper this could be true but when game day arrives the performances depend on human effort which makes this a whole different ball game and what the stats don't account for !
So when it comes to gambling, don't base everything on stats, sometimes your gut feeling is all you need to hit those wins because of you fall for those small odds being safe bets you are more likely to lose more money in the long term!
Very right, instincts do produce good results, though in can work in two ways, where one can benefit or it causes one pains. But, one thing is for sure, there is nothing true about gambling because the players are not being controlled to play, as they play the way they know how to, as they give us the best entertainment or result and depending always on stats or analysis can actually lead to loss and this might hurt ones emotions.

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What do you think are the other things we should look at to change the situation and become profitable in the long run, like the few successful sports bettors?

Please tell me specific things, and explain why they are important and how we can use them.

If we rely with the staitstics of the player and the team its just a heads up to you the potential of the team to have a higher chance to win in the match so its an edge but.. if you add this statistics with update before the match starts, actually there is an instances that there are key player in the game that will not play at the start of the match or even the whole game so you as an edge even there is a stats but you see that the good player will not play imagine you got a good odds plus you bet on the other side personally I do this most of the time in my parlay have an edge about the players like first 10 scores.

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Today at 12:11:51 PM
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What do you think are the other things we should look at to change the situation and become profitable in the long run, like the few successful sports bettors?

I only see statistics as a reliable way to analyze sports. I don't know how anyone could place sports bets without statistical analysis. For example, when there's a football match, news channels report on injured players. So we need to check the statistics of these injured players: if they scored in each of their last 5 games, how many assists they made, how many fouls they committed, and how many successful corners they took. This is to determine to what extent their absence will harm the team. Therefore, without statistics, you can't place a good sports bet.

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Today at 12:22:34 PM
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Statistics is good general because it gives the bettor and overview of the possible outcome of a match, it could also help shape a bettor’s prediction, however as a gambler try to create a balance between statistics, reality and chance (luck), gambling is 100% a game of chance meaning nothing can be really guaranteed, statistics can make it look like a particular probability will play or a particular team could win because of their current form but in gambling things can change in split seconds, a particular player one might feel that if he is in a match that the team will do well might under perform on that day, the coach might also not play some key players, the stronger team by statistics might end up having a red card, the weather condition could be unfavorable etc so one should not over bank on statistics, else it will affect the outcome of most bets. Do a little of statistics, check the obvious reality, follow your heart and leave the rest to chance.

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Today at 12:23:24 PM
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What do you think are the other things we should look at to change the situation and become profitable in the long run, like the few successful sports bettors?

I only see statistics as a reliable way to analyze sports. I don't know how anyone could place sports bets without statistical analysis. For example, when there's a football match, news channels report on injured players. So we need to check the statistics of these injured players: if they scored in each of their last 5 games, how many assists they made, how many fouls they committed, and how many successful corners they took. This is to determine to what extent their absence will harm the team. Therefore, without statistics, you can't place a good sports bet.

Is there anyone that bets without checking stats, it's an important part of sports betting that would help a bettors decision making. For instance, football is not won by luck alone, the effort of a team matters so if a bettor doesn't check stats of different teams playing against each other how would the person know which team is stronger and has more potential of winning.
 Reading through the thread, there's something Swordsoffreedom said that caught my attention, he said "the problem is not the stats, the problem is that most people don't know how to use stats. yeah, everyone can see the same data, but not everyone reaches the same conclusions". And that's a fact, many people use it but can't use it to increase theif chances of winning.

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Today at 12:35:56 PM
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Perhaps, stats is not just what you should focus on if you want to make a more informed prediction. Like some persons already mentioned which I would like to tell you my own experience, don't only use stats but also check for new changes in the team you were going bet on, check for lineup, and injuries.

Statistics is better in combination with the idea you have because what statistics only give you is the past on how the team behaves but wouldn't give you anything about the team next game so actually is for the person to study what the team currently have because sports is a games of Custance changes, a team could make some improvements after three previous games but is only when you are researching by yourself you could actually no the full capacity of the team, so truly what you are saying is the best way to treat a statistics because when you add your own findings it makes the statistics current, so actually I also don't depend on it alone.

 
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Today at 12:41:02 PM
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Before a lot of Bettors make their final decision when it comes to picking the option that they finally decide to bet on they check lots of things like head to head and all other informations but one thing that they fail to realize is that this doesn't always give an accurate result. You can use the history of both teams to try and predict the future but you could actually get it wrong because there might be a little change in performance compared to their previous records. Don't let statistics give you too much confidence because they might increase chances of winning but it doesn't guarantee profits.

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Today at 12:44:49 PM
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They say numbers don't lie, but unfortunately on paper this could be true but when game day arrives the performances depend on human effort which makes this a whole different ball game and what the stats don't account for !
Yes, the numbers they say whether it's from Statistics or low numbers bookies mean favorites, which is where the win rate can be higher based on team performance.
But you have to know when it's on the pitch and there is a red card, all the game can change completely.

So when it comes to gambling, don't base everything on stats, sometimes your gut feeling is all you need to hit those wins because of you fall for those small odds being safe bets you are more likely to lose more money in the long term!
Sometimes I always rely on statistics, hunches are also always used, but thinking by looking at the analysis made does not make it long-term, do not believe it.

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Today at 12:54:47 PM
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As a gambler there are several things you need to understand, using stats can increase your chances of winning but at the same time there are still certain principles you must follow to keep it balanced when stats does not always work out because you should not always expect it to work, this is why you must understand risk management and always learning how to gamble responsibly. Focusing on stats Alone isn't enough because sometimes they can be misleading, to be in profit in the long run you need to also do the things I made mention of.

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"The average gambler gets fleeced." These are the words of H-bob, a poker player who turned to sports betting and heavily leveraged statistical analysis to win games. Casinos focus more on the pros with multiple entries on a game, and players who gamble based on stats but bet on a single entry fail to realize that they're in the same game with players who have more than 1000 tickets. Such players are ready to lose in more than 800 entries, but the wins from the rest of the tickets would cover all their losses. These kinds of pros are actually the type of gamblers who earn so much from monitoring statistics.
I know creating of plenty tickets increases a gambler’s chances from winning but does it does not mean that you must win though and that’s why after all the the tickets and the risk being taken, you will still have to go and follow the statistics much closer, so I believe that the more reason why they are so interested in monitoring the statistical analysis of the game is not just because they want to follow the statistics for following sake but a bit more of that they do not want to lose the much money they have already staked on their multiple entries and will want to protect their tickets to the best of their ability, I don’t know how this truly sounds or happens but it looks like a lot of psychological work going down the line.

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Today at 01:48:21 PM
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Gambling without stat can not be eradicated entirely so far gambling is concern, is like gambling without the right information on the games you are betting on. You can actually win bet without proper stats or research that is picking games at random, but picking games at random is not really adviceable, and is mostly the system of bigginers in gambling. Now, another way you can actually win bet without stats is when you bet on team's form, because if a team is not in good form in a particular season, they will likely not perform well, but if a team is in good form, even though that particular team did not do well in the previous season, but if they are informed in the present season selecting such game can equally give you winning.

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Would you believe me if I said that focusing too much on stats would just make you lose more?
No, it is not. I believe anyone who is making comments on this thread will make it with their own experience and not from a generic mindset. In the previous Premier League Season, I normally used the stat to analyze the teams with their matches and it was working for me. But before using the stat, you have to also know the current state of the teams so you will not make mistake because a team that was beaten by A team might do well to beat the B team in the current match so analysing teams from all sides is the best and don't focus only on one side to analyze and bet. You have to check the past and present of the teams before betting.

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