Are you ready to become a data supplier for AI robotics needs?

[Ndabagi01]

You correct language training by reading English text and some other country languages. As an example today I just made a withdrawal from the results of voice training for AI.

Congratulations on your withdrawal, although my issue with this is that some countries where this languages are spoken or originated from can be ban from applying for these type of jobs.
It's funny that a language originated from your place but you aren't qualified to apply but people who knows how to speak the language elsewhere are qualified.

When I heard of those platforms that train AI using language translation, I was wowed by that but after also hearing that they’re restricted to some locations, I doubted the authenticity of some of them. You can’t have the best translation to a language when you don’t engage the natives there to do the translation work. I have seen some local language translation of AI used for video editing, from the way they speak, you can tell immediately that those translations were done by amateurs and not natives of those languages.

But what do you think about the longevity of these types of job, for me I don't think it is futuristic and we are training them to come take our jobs quicker.

Surely, they’ll come take our jobs but I still feel anything built into AI by human cannot be 100% perfect as to what humans will do. Technology is getting more and more advances and it’s posing a big threat to the job availability of many people. I doubt about its futuristic capabilities, it will cost a lot and they may not be able to manage them well in the long run.

[stompix]

Supplying Ai with personal data is a sure way to forfeit your personal security no matter how much you are being paid because as of now, we have deep fakes that can copy you and have access to information they shouldn't and it's a security risk in itself.

Oh god, are you even reading what this is about?

Nobody gives a damn about your personal data, they want you to perform specific tasks in order to train AI models on that specific task.
Seriously, how much do you think your personal data is worth? You think anyone would pay $10 for it?
Is there anything even remotely close to valuable in here?

Surely, they’ll come take our jobs but I still feel anything built into AI by human cannot be 100% perfect as to what humans will do.

At least when it comes to some posts around here, AI is doing a way better job than some, just saying.

[Porfirii]

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The reward from the data you provide is certainly the main point so that the data provided is of high quality and also a form of appreciation as a contributor.
Now which do you think is more important between earning from the day to day data you provide or still maintaining complete privacy? Give the reason

Privacy is concerning, but even if that issue is worrying, even more worrying is how to recognise all that labour that will be replaced when, thanks to all that data, robots can replace workers for manual jobs that require the precision and sensitivity that until now only a human was able to apply. Of course, it will also have magnificent applications and perhaps in medicine an error rate in surgeries close to zero will be achieved, but until we reach that level of sophistication we will surely see other less qualified professions suffer.

[ZAINmalik75]

The reward from the data you provide is certainly the main point so that the data provided is of high quality and also a form of appreciation as a contributor.
Now which do you think is more important between earning from the day to day data you provide or still maintaining complete privacy? Give the reason

A lot of people might choose to maintain their privacy if a time comes when they can make money from supplying data to AI robotics developing companies. However, the majority I'm sure is going to be ready to accept the offers given to them if they get the opportunity, because even today, the importance of money is so high that people are ready to do anything only to make more money, and as we enter into the future, the importance will only keep rising gradually, and people won't leave any opportunities to make some money.

Besides, I believe that staying private or having a lot of privacy won't be easily possible in the future. We can already see how social media platforms, email services, and everything else that we use and access over the internet are exploiting our privacy and recording and utilizing everything we use, say, watch, or write, and then they sell this data to their customers who want to advertise their products to us. So in the future, this will become even more common.

[mv1986]

As an introduction to the robot requires physical data to be processed as training such as cooking, sweeping, mopping, tidying up the house, bed etc. All need real world data from humans, AI robotics can not run it alone even though it has been using POV data taken from the internet is not enough to produce the accuracy of both moving, reacting, interacting with different lingukungan different. Therefore there is a gap that requires a bridge between the needs of Ai robotics with POV multimodal data.

In the next 10 to 20 years, data collection approaches have the potential to become valuable economic assets in the future. But it also means demanding every POV data service provider platform to maintain the anonymity of every user when their data is provided.

Several companies are now racing to acquire high quality realworld data:
NVIDIA
Figure AI
Open-TeleVision
Vision-Language-Action
M2RL Dataset
RoboTurk
Merit Data

The reward from the data you provide is certainly the main point so that the data provided is of high quality and also a form of appreciation as a contributor.
Now which do you think is more important between earning from the day to day data you provide or still maintaining complete privacy? Give the reason

AI is a delicate topic. I think if you ever go back to using AI, the best idea is that you know what you think you didn't:t know. It sounds weird, but this is where AI becomes helpful. When you don't know, but you have a feeling how to frame the question to get an answer, AI is very valuable.

[Oasisman]

Supplying Ai with personal data is a sure way to forfeit your personal security no matter how much you are being paid because as of now, we have deep fakes that can copy you and have access to information they shouldn't and it's a security risk in itself.

Actually, you're not supplying AI with your personal data. The task is to train AI how humans do daily chores and how people of certain ethnicity talks.
I've seen a lot of people in the 3rd world country doing it and they get paid for recording every task the AI wants them to perform in a first person POV. I don't think that's "supplying personal information". Let's say if that is the case, then what kind of personal information does the AI wants to use against these people?

[Opiate32]

Privacy is important but ownership is just as important as well. If I spend hours generating a high quality training data for an Ai company, that data could continue to create value for years while I only get paid once. It reminds me of selling an asset outright instead of earning royalties from it.

As Ai becomes more valuable, I would not be surprised if people begin to demand licensing agreement rather a one time payment especially for unique data can’t be easily replaced.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Please our brothers in the western world improve yourself not to lose your skills because one is sure no matter how Ai becomes experts in all fields, it will still require smart humans to accomplish many tasks. But is a great ideas that this paying to people who are inclined.

Are you talking about brothers? But shouldn't every person start with what they would seem to need to change? Should you have everything you say, or are you taking the place of those who can't change anything on their own?

In fact, many providers for AI information do everything for free, and the forum is a good example of this. Do you remember how it all started? AI chats took phrases from different social networks of a particular discussion and provided supposedly diverse and unique content. But upon careful inspection, many phrases from different sources were found.

Now everything has become much improved; however, people, as before, communicating on the Internet and posting their data, are free resources, and only a few remain with their privacy.

[MArsland]

This seems like you're a few years behind on reporting, because AI has been harvesting the last 20+ years of the internet for information and working with social media companies to trawl through all of those data banks too. It's not exactly brand new information and is exactly how the language learning models have gotten to this point already. What is actually interesting is that some of the most sophisticated AI models are actually so sophisticated that they are breaking out of test environments in order to answer a question. It's fascinating to think that these AI systems can try so many permutations of bug finding that a person would not be able to find in a hundred years, that's really the scary place to be talking about.

You may be right that I'm behind the times, but that doesn't mean AI robotics progress is complete. Just look at NVIDIA, a major company, that continues to pour money into acquiring data. In other words, they haven't been completely satisfied with the data they've been collecting for years. Data demand is soaring, and therefore quality is paramount. But when data is collected randomly without considering accuracy, interactions with different conditions are futile.

[hedgeh0g]

As an introduction to the robot requires physical data to be processed as training such as cooking, sweeping, mopping, tidying up the house, bed etc. All need real world data from humans, AI robotics can not run it alone even though it has been using POV data taken from the internet is not enough to produce the accuracy of both moving, reacting, interacting with different lingukungan different. Therefore there is a gap that requires a bridge between the needs of Ai robotics with POV multimodal data.

In the next 10 to 20 years, data collection approaches have the potential to become valuable economic assets in the future. But it also means demanding every POV data service provider platform to maintain the anonymity of every user when their data is provided.

Several companies are now racing to acquire high quality realworld data:
NVIDIA
Figure AI
Open-TeleVision
Vision-Language-Action
M2RL Dataset
RoboTurk
Merit Data

The reward from the data you provide is certainly the main point so that the data provided is of high quality and also a form of appreciation as a contributor.
Now which do you think is more important between earning from the day to day data you provide or still maintaining complete privacy? Give the reason

I would not provide my data to any of the Chinese companies, knowing how negligent they are about everything related to technology, because, for example, recently there was information about the leakage of chats from deepsik. I know that xiaomi, for example, is also very bad at protecting its data.
And if you look at this topic in terms of electric vehicles, not everyone knows that Tesla is much better than any Chinese electric vehicles in terms of safety, because, for example, there is a video on the Internet where the car owner burns down in a Xiaomi car because it was blocked due to an accident and, unfortunately, there are quite a lot of such cases, so their data I would only trust real professionals. Although this is also a controversial issue . Maybe not to anyone.

[noorman0]

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Now which do you think is more important between earning from the day to day data you provide or still maintaining complete privacy? Give the reason

Some data collection methods even involve taking data without informed consent, so I doubt we have any privacy options left. The internet is the gateway to that data exchange, and those who will never use the internet will be the most private, rejecting the need for AI.

[pooya87]

In the next 10 to 20 years, data collection approaches have the potential to become valuable economic assets in the future.

I think in that case it would be the first time these corporations pay to mine your data!

This won't be the first time they mine our data though! Depending on the user's age, they've been online for years if not decades. And all these companies (google, NSA, Meta, etc.) already have massive files with our names on it filled with loads of data they've mined on us. On our behaviors, our interests, maybe even "dirt"... and it has been a "valuable economic asset" for them. Not only that's how they make money but also that's how they control their population.

[viljy]

While reading this topic, I came up with an idea explaining why companies make humanoid robots. Although, for example, industrial robots are subordinated to a purely functional aspect and have nothing to do with human anatomy. It's about the training data! It is much easier to attach sensors or surround a person with video cameras and read his movements during a particular activity than to receive data, for example, for the train of some octopus robot. Even if an octopus performs some kind of activity better than a humanoid robot, there is simply no data for such a robot to train. Of course, I mean robots with AI.

[danherbias07]

How much do these AI companies pay human contributors hourly to film everyday chores and physical actions? Lots of people buy Meta AI glass and Apple Glasses. Basically, these glasses can be used to train AI models for free, right?
If they pay a good amount of money that makes it worth to film everyday chores, then do it. You are nor as private as you think, especially today when there are cameras everywhere and every of our social media message is tracked and analyzed.

I don't think they are going to pay a lot since there's so much data that needs to be gathered. It will take some time before they start paying large amounts, especially for data that is very rare to acquire. For now, they may need just the basics. Languages, traditions, or maybe even habits. The things that are actually provided by the internet but just need deeper data.

I won't expect too much with the payments, and the competition for this job is probably high. There are a lot of people now who are online freelancing and probably have finished some of the tasks they provide.

[Die_empty]

I think in that case it would be the first time these corporations pay to mine your data!

Maybe the data they need cannot be easily stolen as it used to be. This time they want people to put on devices like bulletproof headgear and body armor.

I don't think they are going to pay a lot since there's so much data that needs to be gathered. It will take some time before they start paying large amounts, especially for data that is very rare to acquire. For now, they may need just the basics. Languages, traditions, or maybe even habits. The things that are actually provided by the internet but just need deeper data.

I won't expect too much with the payments, and the competition for this job is probably high. There are a lot of people now who are online freelancing and probably have finished some of the tasks they provide.

The payment might not mean a lot to those who earn high amounts. However, it could be a good side hustle for additional income. I saw a publication that these AI companies pay as much as $10 to $150 an hour, or $1 to $4 a minute. This is a substantial sum for those in developing nations.

[Somegory]

You correct language training by reading English text and some other country languages. As an example today I just made a withdrawal from the results of voice training for AI.

Congratulations on your withdrawal, although my issue with this is that some countries where this languages are spoken or originated from can be ban from applying for these type of jobs.
It's funny that a language originated from your place but you aren't qualified to apply but people who knows how to speak the language elsewhere are qualified.
But what do you think about the longevity of these types of job, for me I don't think it is futuristic and we are training them to come take our jobs quicker.

People are already spamming AI data learning and training platforms like Outlier and others, you can find more details on Twitter where some Africans are using remote computers of us citizens to get hired on outlier.

I am in Nigeria myself and I don't want to give up data for AI training, it's not as if some platforms don't support my location but it still turns my stomach to do it, I don't want to, to be honest.

It's easier for others to do because it involves money, it's how we all got here today anyway, people will literally give away anything to get paid, before any comes for me I want to ask if you can train AI with data without getting any money in return.

[Antotena]

Actually, you're not supplying AI with your personal data. The task is to train AI how humans do daily chores and how people of certain ethnicity talks.
I've seen a lot of people in the 3rd world country doing it and they get paid for recording every task the AI wants them to perform in a first person POV. I don't think that's "supplying personal information". Let's say if that is the case, then what kind of personal information does the AI wants to use against these people?

How can you train data without your personal data, don't you think that if your data is not important you will have the job to train data. What I have seen from outlier and some other AI training platforms is depending on the kind of AI you are training. There are some AI that will ask you to feed local language to AI and that requires you to make voice notes and communicate with AI, that alone is your personal data, you are doing that to make AI to learn the language.

Some tasks on outlier required that you upload images, real images it could be from you or people around you and it must be authentic, if you upload images that are doctor or already AI generated content, you will be disqualified and you will not be getting paid. If they don't need data, I'm not sure they are going to be ask people to do the job and the people that are doing it don't care about their personal data, they care more about the pay they are going to get.

[MArsland]

I am in Nigeria myself and I don't want to give up data for AI training, it's not as if some platforms don't support my location but it still turns my stomach to do it, I don't want to, to be honest.

It's easier for others to do because it involves money, it's how we all got here today anyway, people will literally give away anything to get paid, before any comes for me I want to ask if you can train AI with data without getting any money in return.

No one will attack you just because you don't want to provide data to AI Robotika. In fact, your decision is very good, as it reflects your personal principles. Agreeing and disagreeing are the most reasonable parts for everyone, but don't judge others for their interest in contributing data to Robotika.

Maybe yes, maybe no, depending on preference.