what a trading story

[Floczy]

Consider planting a seed, you just plant and you know it will grow. but why? some will say its because it has happend before and that is actually right.

Now you went back in time to the early years you just see a little stone like object and you bought it just for curiosity sake, and then you put it under the ground and you water it hoping that it will grow. but why? because you heard that there are little stone like objects that grow when they are planted and watered. And a week passes by nothing grew,
Now your pissed, why didn't something grow out, you just wasted money buying a stone and now its useless you get to throw it away. You say to your self and others this shit is a lie it doesn't work.

After some time your mind is calm, chill emotions no distractions, no phone, no friends, and different thoughts start coming in, but among all the thoughts you had a challenging one... why did you think that stone like object will grow? You just gambled, you have never seen it happen before but your instinct tells you to do so because it made sense in some way with what you have heard and read about. And now you tell your self '"you know what im never gonna gamble that way again.

Time went on, you see your neighbour, with another stone like object, but different from the one you bought. she plants it and you watch her quietly without saying a word. time passed and one day you passed and you see that something grew, you are so surprised, you had to go and knock at her door ant tell her, "can you see that stuff you plated is growing!!", her facial expression is normal, like she knew it was going to happen. And then you asked her to give you one, she was kind enough to give it to you.
And now you want to plant, this time you go to plant with all confidence its not a gamble any more, you tell your self, i have seen my neighbour not just plant one but 3 same stone like structure and the grew, i know this one will grow as well.

You are now in the present trading, and now you see an oder block, you haven't dedicated time to see how market respects that oder block, you haven't dedicated time to see how markets reacts to high quality oder blocks, you about to enter a sale from the oder block and you told your self "do i know or do i hope this market will sell? am i about to gamble again?" and now yo remembered the past and you told your self "NO i will not trade, i will study how this oder block is and how the market reacts to it" later on you see the market wicked above that particular oder block and sold, you where happy you didn't enter, you see that exact nature of oder block again and you suspected it to wick above and sell but you weren't too sure,{still gamble} and you waited again, and you see that it still wicked, and you did this same thing 2 extra times and it happend the same way for that exact nature of oderblock, same market condition, same price action just as it was for the first 3 oder blocks,

one morning you open your mac book and you see the same oder block again this time you said you will enter, market reacted to the oder block, but you said to your self "nahh ive seen this shii before, its gonna wick out that oder block and then ill enter" this time you dont hope any more you KNOW it will happen, and not to your surprise it happend just as expected. And now you understand a significant percentage of life.

You dedicated time and did the same pattern with different types of oder block, FVG, Trend line ETC,

One year later your neighbour that gave you the seed is quite aged, she saw you in your Bugatti and you changed her life, and told her " you contributed in changing my life, ill change yours"

You are now a profitable trader!!!

DONT GAMBLE, PLANT.

[BitMaxz]

The fun fact: How does this guy think that stone will grow? In the end it actually grew, but how does it happen? I've never seen a stone grow and become a tree; it's not a gamble, it's nature. That stone will never grow as a tree; however, your story told us that the stone can grow as a tree.
If we apply this story to trading, it's totally different; we shouldn't compare this stone when it comes to trading, but I like the way you explained about trading.
The orderblock or FVG I'm sure you are pointing to SMC.
The patterns you mention that repeat themselves can always happen but sometimes fail. You should have a backup plan to avoid losing much since we are trading; we seek profit. So we also need risk management to avoid losing much and make more profit than losing.

[Natalim]

However, not all who plant in trading yields profits. There are still those who pour their maximum time, money and efforts but in the end trading has only led them to losses. That's because they can't control the outcome of their trades due to unpredictable market.

But with proper risk management, the risk can be lessen but sometimes losses cannot be totally avoided. Trading is still gambling because you are not in full control how the market reacts to your trades, but you can always manage how your emotions will react to your losses, that's why in trading you don't just need knowledge and skills, risk management and discipline also play vital roles to protect your financial, psychological and mental health.

[Karl_3000]

What if the person started to trade and the bad part of the person life begin? If most traders are losing, I do not think trading is really worth it for most people. I have said it many times that trading will be the reason that some people will miss the coming bull run. There are many people in deep regrets now that instead of trading, they should have hold their coins. I will prefer to hold my bitcoin than to gamble with it and think it is trading. I am losing in trading is the reason my post is like this. Most people are losing in trading.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

Relating this story to trading, what OP is saying is:

1. Seeing a trading strategy and immediately starting to use it without first finding out whether the person you got the strategy from is actually profitable or not can be a mistake. You might not get positive results from using that strategy if it was never profitable for the person who created or shared it.

2. There is a need to learn from someone who already has evidence of success with the strategy they are using to trade. This helps you understand not only the strategy itself but also how it is applied in real market conditions.

3. You need to observe, learn, practice, and give yourself enough time to improve, especially when it comes to controlling your emotions.

I can relate to what you are saying, but the problem most unprofitable traders face is not always that their strategy is ineffective. There is no strategy that works 100% of the time because even successful traders experience losses, if some strategy are 100% sure, then some traders won't experience losses.

Based on my observations, the major problem many unprofitable traders have is greed and the desire to become rich quickly. For example, expecting to turn $100 into $10,000 within one month or less is unrealistic unless it happens through luck or by taking extremely high risks.

When learning a strategy or studying why some traders are successful, always understand that they have an edge. That edge may come from discipline, patience, proper risk management, emotional control, or realistic expectations. Unlike many beginners, successful traders do not approach the market with unrealistic goals or the mindset of getting rich overnight.

[Finebone]

What if the person started to trade and the bad part of the person life begin? If most traders are losing, I do not think trading is really worth it for most people.

Trading is truly not for everyone, especially when you are too emotional towards everything.
And secondly, you need to understand that in trading, losing money sometimes is inevitable, because even the best traders lose money too, but if you are actually good and you know what you are doing, you will always be profitable on it.

I have said it many times that trading will be the reason that some people will miss the coming bull run. There are many people in deep regrets now that instead of trading, they should have hold their coins. I will prefer to hold my bitcoin than to gamble with it and think it is trading. I am losing in trading is the reason my post is like this. Most people are losing in trading.

I think that you are not getting the point mate. Where is written that as a trader you can not also buy and hold Bitcoin?
I am a trader, and equally a holder, so I don't get it when people are saying that some investors may miss out on the bull run due to trading,  as if a trader cannot also buy and hold Bitcoin.

[Moreno233]

This story is a nice capture of the evolution of a trader, he try so many things with some because of people experiences yet he fail so many times. But in each of the failures, he learns something new and kept trying and testing different systems and taking note of the lessons without giving up, eventually he will succeed and achieve his dreams. This is so true about trading, not an easy route to wealth but surely a way to amass wealth over time.

[Lida93]

What if the person started to trade and the bad part of the person life begin? If most traders are losing, I do not think trading is really worth it for most people. I have said it many times that trading will be the reason that some people will miss the coming bull run. There are many people in deep regrets now that instead of trading, they should have hold their coins. I will prefer to hold my bitcoin than to gamble with it and think it is trading. I am losing in trading is the reason my post is like this. Most people are losing in trading.

As you were losing from trading there was some trader elsewhere that was making profits with his trades and it doesn't seem to him like trading is sought of a bad idea compared to him rather choosing to be investing instead. It's for each person to pay attention and quickly notice and accept what's working for them and what's not. Investment in bitcoin on long term looks easy to do than trading and that's why we can find lesser profitable traders than we can find with investors after each cycle.

[Rruchi man]

one morning you open your mac book and you see the same oder block again this time you said you will enter, market reacted to the oder block, but you said to your self "nahh ive seen this shii before, its gonna wick out that oder block and then ill enter" this time you dont hope any more you KNOW it will happen, and not to your surprise it happend just as expected. And now you understand a significant percentage of life.

This kind of confidence can only come from consistency that will lead to experience, and gaining experience has to be an intentional act in trading. Your intentionality has to show from journaling; this is why it is often advised that new traders should engage in a lot of journaling of their trades, both the successful trades and the unsuccessful trades, because there is something to learn from both. You have to document the reason you took a trade, what you saw, and the outcome so you can increase your confidence the next time you see such a pattern because patterns are repetitive in trading, and even though the outcomes are not 100% certain, the chances of the same action from a pattern are always high because many traders have observed the same pattern as well and are always likely to go with the trend.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

You are now a profitable trader, DONT GAMBLE, PLANT.

What I understand from your story is that we should learn from others experience and not rush into making decisions and I must say that is one strategy a trader can use and become a successful one. In regards to the stone you use in your story yes there are stones that can be watered and they grow because scientists have discovered that happening before (in seas /ocean) but the difference is that the first stone you use wasn't the right stone but the second was the right stone and the way I can put this into the market is that there are strategies that others might be using that won't work for you but then there're strategy that will work perfectly for you and that is those you should be chasing after instead of chasing after the first strategy that has no benefit to you. Trading is an experience game, the more experience you have the more chances you get at making profit therefore experience should be something you always go after and with enough experience, mistakes will be eliminated and then you stand a better chance at making profit from the market.

[uchegod-21]

The central message I picked from this story is that trading is not something anyone should venture into blindly. Simply because someone else is successful as a trader does not give anyone a reason to jump into it out of excitement, hoping to be as lucky as the successful trader.

Being a trader takes time. It starts with learning, and then, with experience, you can start becoming profitable. Many failed traders made these same mistakes. Some became successful after they failed the first time and learned from their mistakes, just like the abstract trader in the story above.

There is no better way to plant the seed of trading than through studying, observing, making mistakes, and learning from those mistakes. Trading is risky, and experience also teaches a lot.

[Alphakilo]

The central message I picked from this story is that trading is not something anyone should venture into blindly. Simply because someone else is successful as a trader does not give anyone a reason to jump into it out of excitement, hoping to be as lucky as the successful trader.

Being a trader takes time. It starts with learning, and then, with experience, you can start becoming profitable. Many failed traders made these same mistakes. Some became successful after they failed the first time and learned from their mistakes, just like the abstract trader in the story above.

There is no better way to plant the seed of trading than through studying, observing, making mistakes, and learning from those mistakes. Trading is risky, and experience also teaches a lot.

They say experience is the best teacher, but some experiences, we don't live to tell the story and that is why it is good to be selective and practical in picking the kind of experience one hopes to gain from.

The analogy is quite insightful and just like you said, making profit from trading doesn't come overnight, it comes with careful observation, research, learning risk management and learning from the mistakes of others and oneself.

Unlike one planting a seed with the hope it grows and carefully waters it everyday, it is consistency and discipline and emotional control that makes one so dedicated in paying close attention to the order book, but that alone isn't enough to cause a ripple of profit because the market factors must play its own role.

[boyptc]

I remember my old mentor about telling me that investing is like planting a seed. But with what you've explained about the stone, it's only a display and to make the garden or the farm look good although if it's with the technical land scape of where you planted the seed helps, then so be it.

Because I haven't heard and seen that a stone grows when you plant seed on the soil and you water it. I'm trying to understand it if there's a vocabulary or what not or literally something with it but sorry I failed to.

But the whole thing you've said and analogy is about trading and investing requires patience. Don't just do what others do and make your own journey fun as there will be challenges along the way.

[Supreme Donvic]

You are now a profitable trader, DONT GAMBLE, PLANT.

Trading is an experience game, the more experience you have the more chances you get at making profit therefore experience should be something you always go after and with enough experience, mistakes will be eliminated and then you stand a better chance at making profit from the market.

You are right, to be successful in trading you need to be very experienced, meaning you need to have been trading for long, if anyone thinks that he can start trading and start making profit immediately the person is not familiar with trading. Before you can start making profit in trading you must have spent time in gaining experience and in this period you may actually be losing money and if you are not patient enough you will stop trading.
Those that are making it big today in trading did not start today they started a long time ago.
In all I still believe trading is very risky and should be done using only discretionary income.

[uchegod-21]

The central message I picked from this story is that trading is not something anyone should venture into blindly. Simply because someone else is successful as a trader does not give anyone a reason to jump into it out of excitement, hoping to be as lucky as the successful trader.

Being a trader takes time. It starts with learning, and then, with experience, you can start becoming profitable. Many failed traders made these same mistakes. Some became successful after they failed the first time and learned from their mistakes, just like the abstract trader in the story above.

There is no better way to plant the seed of trading than through studying, observing, making mistakes, and learning from those mistakes. Trading is risky, and experience also teaches a lot.

They say experience is the best teacher, but some experiences, we don't live to tell the story and that is why it is good to be selective and practical in picking the kind of experience one hopes to gain from.

The analogy is quite insightful and just like you said, making profit from trading doesn't come overnight, it comes with careful observation, research, learning risk management and learning from the mistakes of others and oneself.

Unlike one planting a seed with the hope it grows and carefully waters it everyday, it is consistency and discipline and emotional control that makes one so dedicated in paying close attention to the order book, but that alone isn't enough to cause a ripple of profit because the market factors must play its own role.

Yes, it is true that some experiences are usually very painful, but this is trading that we are discussing. For beginners, it is not always a smooth process to profitability. Sometimes, it is not because these newbies do not study hard. It is not because they are not researching or observing well, but because, as newbies, they may not have enough confidence to trade. This lack of confidence may affect their mood and emotions, which may, in turn, affect their trades. Whatever outcome they get is part of the experience they will learn from. Most importantly, they will learn how to manage their emotions to prevent unwarranted interference.

In trading, losses are inevitable. You cannot be too careful, especially as a beginner who is still trying to understand the market, not just through demo accounts. Experiences are not always bad, but they all come with lessons.

[Wiwo]

What if the person started to trade and the bad part of the person life begin? If most traders are losing, I do not think trading is really worth it for most people. I have said it many times that trading will be the reason that some people will miss the coming bull run. There are many people in deep regrets now that instead of trading, they should have hold their coins. I will prefer to hold my bitcoin than to gamble with it and think it is trading. I am losing in trading is the reason my post is like this. Most people are losing in trading.

As you were losing from trading there was some trader elsewhere that was making profits with his trades and it doesn't seem to him like trading is sought of a bad idea compared to him rather choosing to be investing instead. It's for each person to pay attention and quickly notice and accept what's working for them and what's not. Investment in bitcoin on long term looks easy to do than trading and that's why we can find lesser profitable traders than we can find with investors after each cycle.

It goes both ways, there is no trader without a record of losing before as much as they making profits from they trades, so is both ways and Karl_3000 is right on the bad side of trading which results from a trader's bad decisions or market uncertainty.

Trader should know that your profit is another person loses and also your loss is someone else's profit; this is what we should understand about trading.

Holding is an investment which is vastly different from trading in practice and reality.

[Popkon6]

However, not all who plant in trading yields profits. There are still those who pour their maximum time, money and efforts but in the end trading has only led them totrading losses. That's because they can't control the outcome of their trades due to unpredictable market.

Not only that, the market is not always under control, even experienced traders face losses. So no matter what the situation is, if you give more importance to holding than trading, this will be the best, but another strategy should be followed, you should trade in trusted coins, such as if you trade in Bitcoin, if you face losses, you can make up for it in long-term holding. In this way, it will be possible to reduce the risk a little, I do not like to trade in any other point except Bitcoin.

What if the person started to trade and the bad part of the person life begin? If most traders are losing, I do not think trading is really worth it for most people. I have said it many times that trading will be the reason that some people will miss the coming bull run. There are many people in deep regrets now that instead of trading, they should have hold their coins. I will prefer to hold my bitcoin than to gamble with it and think it is trading. I am losing in trading is the reason my post is like this. Most people are losing in trading.

Trading is a very difficult place, it is natural that a person who has entered it once has faced losses, if you like trading then you should trade with as much money as you can afford to lose. Because you cannot succeed in trading even by using your own experience and all the research, from the moment you take a trade, the market starts going down and within a short time you face losses and the trader becomes restless.
As a result, some traders sell at a loss without caring about anything and start regretting it, in such a situation you have to take extra risks. But in Bitcoin holding you do not have to take so much risk, taking even the slightest risk ensures success.

[knowngunman]

What if the person started to trade and the bad part of the person life begin?

It's probably because he jumped in without proper knowledge.

If most traders are losing, I do not think trading is really worth it for most people. I have said it many times that trading will be the reason that some people will miss the coming bull run. There are many people in deep regrets now that instead of trading, they should have hold their coins. I will prefer to hold my bitcoin than to gamble with it and think it is trading. I am losing in trading is the reason my post is like this. Most people are losing in trading.

I will not encourage anyone to trade, not because it's not profitable but because of aftermath consequences. Most people don't know much about trading, they think it's just to buy low and sell high. It's more than just buying and selling, you're always up against your emotions and peace of mind.

I agree it doesn't worth it for majority but that doesn't mean it is totally useless or waste of time. Few people who are good at it are still making it but majority are losing as you said because they think trading is a shortcut to become wealthy.

[Solarmesh]

that's the difference between guessing and knowing
trade because you’ve tested what the market does around it under similar conditions and you’ve got rules for when you act vs when you skip.

[rbynxx]

Yeah I quite get the analogy even it's not really connects to biology of a rock to grow lol. This is quiet the difficult part especially to beginners or even those who already started, they enter a trade just because it looks right or someone told them that it will work. Successful ones do watch it a hundred or thousand times, they document it, they repeat it with different setups, same conditions, same price actions, until no longer just a guess, and more of a conclusion.

The shift from "I hope" to "I know" is a real awakening, but for me that requires hundred of hours of your time, a consistency that fluctuates, and countless errors along the way. The math of success is brutal that you don't have a huge percentage of wins over your losses. Lesson in there. Don't trade concepts, trade with observations you've proven that will work.