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July 29, 2026, 08:50:55 AM
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Today, July 29, 2026 the Russian side set Telegram CEO Pavel Durov as a fugitive on charges of facilitating terrorist activities. It's about Telegram still failing to remove bots, chats and channels that are often used by Ukrainian intelligence, terrorists, and extremist organizations as a means to communicate in launching various sabotage, cyber fraud etc.

Is telegram to blame? or is the responsibility entirely on the perpetrators of the crime themselves?
Should Durov choose to cooperate with the government or keep the principle of user privacy?

But here's the answer from the official telegram account at x Grin


https://www.interfax.ru/russia/1106228
https://cointelegraph.com/news/telegram-founder-wanted-internationally-russia

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July 29, 2026, 11:11:07 AM
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Today, July 29, 2026 the Russian side set Telegram CEO Pavel Durov as a fugitive on charges of facilitating terrorist activities. It's about Telegram still failing to remove bots, chats and channels that are often used by Ukrainian intelligence, terrorists, and extremist organizations as a means to communicate in launching various sabotage, cyber fraud etc.

Is telegram to blame? or is the responsibility entirely on the perpetrators of the crime themselves?
Should Durov choose to cooperate with the government or keep the principle of user privacy?

But here's the answer from the official telegram account at x Grin


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"Blame"? "Responsibility"? You really want to continue with this Kremlin propaganda tone?

Rest of the civilized world considers Russia as a terrorist state and in eyes of it, Pavel Durov didn't submit under their will, which can be considered as anti-terrorist act.

Also FSB isn't interested about the "cyber fraud", they just mention it as that's more appealing argument for the rest of the world then helping Ukraine.

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July 29, 2026, 04:57:38 PM
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If telegram has been found involved in any form of terrorist activities or perpetrating for such, what should first be defined is if this is directly from the inventor or the users who engage the platform on various applications of scam and linkings to terrorism act, so I don't think placing Durov on wanted list solve the issue, every one of us know how telegram is more vulnerable to every form of scam and can also be used in communicating with any entity for any activity beyond common regulations could control.

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July 29, 2026, 10:16:49 PM
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The whole idea of Durov being on a wanted list because of Telegram, is simply wrong-headed thinking. Why? Because Durov/telegram were/are simply using a system that can be far more 'criminal' than anybody using telegram could ever think of being.

Consider. If you want to sign up for and use Telegram - even if you can figure out how to do it on your desktop computer - you need a phone number. Telegram doesn't work without a phone number.

Because of this, Telegram is only a little program taking advantage (a little) of the far bigger telephone system. If they are going to criminalize Durov for his little Telegram program, then they need to criminalize all the phone company people first. Because it is the phone companies that are transporting the messages from every which where... and not only the little section that uses Telegram.


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Today at 10:09:23 AM
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He co-operated with French authority to handle that kind of issue after his arrest in France, why not his own country?
Telegram has always had scam problems. It's hard to be in telegram groups without scammers bothering the groups/members.

I follow news for many months now on how scammers recruits Russians especially the kids (between 15 to 22 or so) to launch terrorist atacks in Russia and rob Russians, yet this doesn't bother durov?
It's a typical Nigerian prince kind of scams and jiihadist kind of terrorism recruitments (via blackmail)
I have experienced them myself targeting people mostly from Russia on Hive telegram group. The issue was pervasive and they were aggressive about it. My thought then was that Russian government needs to intervene to help its people, and why durov isn't taking it very seriously.
By the way, from what I discovered, his attitude is ideological rather than negligence. He believes in low censorship and that kind of stuff, whether content is extremist or not. I think that in itself is extremism. I'm for censorship-resistance free speech by the way, but not at the detriment of the security of an entire nation or even an individual. If people are really recruiting others to kill, steal or harm, they should be stopped immediately. This is different from threatening speeches or insults

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Today at 06:19:23 PM
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He co-operated with French authority to handle that kind of issue after his arrest in France, why not his own country?
Telegram has always had scam problems. It's hard to be in telegram groups without scammers bothering the groups/members.

I follow news for many months now on how scammers recruits Russians especially the kids (between 15 to 22 or so) to launch terrorist atacks in Russia and rob Russians, yet this doesn't bother durov?
It's a typical Nigerian prince kind of scams and jiihadist kind of terrorism recruitments (via blackmail)
I have experienced them myself targeting people mostly from Russia on Hive telegram group. The issue was pervasive and they were aggressive about it. My thought then was that Russian government needs to intervene to help its people, and why durov isn't taking it very seriously.
By the way, from what I discovered, his attitude is ideological rather than negligence. He believes in low censorship and that kind of stuff, whether content is extremist or not. I think that in itself is extremism. I'm for censorship-resistance free speech by the way, but not at the detriment of the security of an entire nation or even an individual. If people are really recruiting others to kill, steal or harm, they should be stopped immediately. This is different from threatening speeches or insults

All you are doing is showing us some of the major reasons why governments should be shut down. Criminal organizations that are not governments are simply governments that have not grown into recognizable size or strength yet.

Durov is simply extending freedom. If people want to believe governments and scammers, sure, they are going to get burned. It might teach them, if they are smart enough to learn. Formally stealing freedom from people is what governments and scammers do, not Durov.

The reason why governments are somewhat peaceful, and why they make laws to protect the little people, is that they are getting rid of competition. And because people are so corrupt - especially when they get some power - is the reason why God lets governments exist the way they do. Fleece the people a little to protect them from criminal organizations that would fleece them a lot.


The difference with the American government is that it is set up to make ALL average people to be the government, individually. The USA is possibly the best total freedom government. But the people of America don't understand it or how it works. So they turn their authority over to the US government through agreements and contracts, which limit their freedom strength that is set in place right in the government documents.


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