How big is the "CryptoYar" account farm?

[stompix]

Unfortunately, you're in Theymos's land where it's better to let 1000 wrongdoers loose rather then punish an innocent.

Just one (important) clarification: Theymos owns the forum but he doesn't manage the Pizza Contest. As far as I know, he is not involved in the contest's rules.

He will get involved if the rules ban a country or a region or a demographic or anything.
Trust me, he will, and anyhow not even the community will agree to something like this, we need to think of the consequences of such a thing, for example, if this happens and due to abuse we ban a community.

What stops a narcissistic troll with a ton of free time when it comes to useless things to buy 2-3 accounts each with history in the Pakistan, Nigerian, and Indonesian boards and then cheat in the contest to get them all banned?

I said it before, let's keep things realistic.

As I said, I'm not 100% sure but it's quite a coincidence the first two pizza pans look so similar. Is it a common type of pan in Pakistan? Does it come as a bundle with the plates?

Hard to say as the lighting makes things worse but I'm thinking that one saw ww1 and the other just ww2. Also, probably the manufacturer went bankrupt during the Vietnam war.
Of course we could ask both of them to make a second picture of the plate empty, they won't be able to fake the rims to show another one so the rest of the pan will tell the story, and if they refuse, then you have the answer already.
 

Did I say we made Pizzas on same day? I said we cooked the Pizza together. And it is not easy to make two Pizzas in one day especially in the hot weather of Pakistan.

So, how do people eat in Pakistan if one pizza per day is the maximum for a kitchen before you die of heat?
You're using photosynthesis or what?

[logfiles]

I am quite tired to see this going on for several days tbh. This ain't gonna put dent in farming, it's not a big deal for 'em; they likely already have several in line and can create new ones real soon and push up to hero member via local members help (don't even have to have merit source) and continue getting into campaigns.

Account farmers creating new accounts and busters keep finding 'em every once in while is gonna continue till forever and farmers have upper hand on this. Plus on note , this farmers using the same address in several of their account, is stupid af. C'mon do better. (This statement is spoken generally, not particularly relevant to this thread).

Bursting the makes their account farming job so hard. Ranking up is not as easy as it was back in the day so losing a hero member or Legendary account and then starting to farm new accounts from newbie rank is a huge hiccup to them

Even the farmed accounts will eventually get discovered anyway so I think the account busters are doing a great job.

[CryptoYar]

Did theymos remove ThemePen from merit source?
According to Merit Stats, there are 85 merit sources now. The last time I checked it, there were 86 merit sources. ThemePen also hasn't sent any merit in the last three days.


Edit:
theymos has merited the topic. This confirms that the removed merit source is ThemePen.

ThemePen’s case definitely made things harder for me, but facts don't change: I have no connection to them. I don't know them personally, and I’m not going to let a misunderstanding ruin what I’ve built here. I’ve put a lot of time, effort, and hard work into this account and this forum, and I will keep defending my identity until the end.

[JollyGood]

ThemePen’s case definitely made things harder for me, but facts don't change: I have no connection to them. I don't know them personally, and I’m not going to let a misunderstanding ruin what I’ve built here.

How much do you regret not locking that thread when I mentioned more than once that it served no purpose apart from bringing unwanted attention to yourself?

I’ve put a lot of time, effort, and hard work into this account and this forum, and I will keep defending my identity until the end.

You cheated in Pizza Day competition by submitting multiple entries under different names. Not only that, you won $1500 and are now wearing the pizza icon under your profile name.

What is clear is that you will not be able to monetise the CryptoYar account. I believe you are probably using other accounts that have not yet been discovered and your focus will be on monetising (or trying to monetise) them via signature campaigns, competitions and bounties.

You will not become merit source therefore your application in the Meta board has been rendered useless. It seems that the ThemePen account is no longer a merit source and no matter how many PMs you send to me and other members, you will not manage to have all of the negative tags on all of the accounts removed.

Will you return the $1500 to the Pizza Day competition organisers?
Will you voluntarily declare how many accounts you are operating?

[Ale88]

no matter how many PMs you send to me and other members, you will not manage to have all of the negative tags on all of the accounts removed.

Is he seriously asking you via PM to remove the negative tag?

[julerz12]

Will you return the $1500 to the Pizza Day competition organisers?
Will you voluntarily declare how many accounts you are operating?

What'll happen if he did all this? All is forgiven? Pretty sure he already knows that those tags ain't going anywhere regardless of how sorry he is and if by some miracle he does all those things ^{which I highly doubt}.
Nah, it's moot to ask such things from him.

How much do you regret not locking that thread when I mentioned more than once that it served no purpose apart from bringing unwanted attention to yourself?

Stop rubbing salt into his wounds. 

[JollyGood]

Is he seriously asking you via PM to remove the negative tag?

He sent a PM proclaiming he was not connected to the ThemePen and Rustam Meraj accounts. He asked me to remove the negative tag or replace it with neutral. He stated that if I removed/revised the feedback then he would ask others to do the same. He believes as long as I removed/revised the tag then others would follow.

It seems as though he is clearly mistaken if he believes he can monetise his CryptoYar account again.

What'll happen if he did all this? All is forgiven? Pretty sure he already knows that those tags ain't going anywhere regardless of how sorry he is and if by some miracle he does all those things ^{which I highly doubt}.
Nah, it's moot to ask such things from him.

Well, you are probably right but if it could possibly result in some members revising their feedback, there is no harm in asking him what he is willing to do in order to demonstrate his remorse. We will never know unless he gives an answer.

Stop rubbing salt into his wounds.  

He had ample opportunity to lock that thread yet he persisted on doing the opposite. He is now facing the consequences of his actions.

[lovesmayfamilis]

He had ample opportunity to lock that thread yet he persisted on doing the opposite. He is now facing the consequences of his actions.

I think he needs help with a decision so that people gradually forget his bad story. Accept, CryptoYar, that all accounts belong to you. You won't change reality anyway. And admit it. won't get a thousand and a half bucks back, since even your account isn't worth that much. And leave. If there is no "body," as the police say, then there is no case.

I don't expect the best, but you, CryptoYar, can expect the worst, as people will search for pans, cups, and your next accounts.

[examplens]

He had ample opportunity to lock that thread yet he persisted on doing the opposite. He is now facing the consequences of his actions.

I think he needs help with a decision so that people gradually forget his bad story. Accept, CryptoYar, that all accounts belong to you. You won't change reality anyway. And admit it. won't get a thousand and a half bucks back, since even your account isn't worth that much. And leave. If there is no "body," as the police say, then there is no case.

I don't expect the best, but you, CryptoYar, can expect the worst, as people will search for pans, cups, and your next accounts.

Honestly, the pizza he submitted in the contest was good, it's possible that he would definitely win without any other alternative help or manipulation.
It is obvious that it is a question of some kind of greed when he decided to participate in the contest on both forums with more accounts.

The request to be a merit source is an additional rudeness, he obviously overestimated his plans to create a serious account farm. I did not see that he convinced anyone of his innocence

[CryptoYar]

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I have been part of Bitcointalk since January 14, 2020, but I never joined the Pizza contest before this year. If those were all my alt accounts, why didn't I participate earlier? ThemePen, Rustam Meraj, and Publictalk792 have participated regularly, but I didn't. I only entered this time and did my best. Their pizzas didn't even make it to the top 10, which clearly shows that my entry was completely different from theirs.

[xLays]

Will you return the $1500 to the Pizza Day competition organisers?
Will you voluntarily declare how many accounts you are operating?

What'll happen if he did all this? All is forgiven? Pretty sure he already knows that those tags ain't going anywhere regardless of how sorry he is and if by some miracle he does all those things ^{which I highly doubt}.
Nah, it's moot to ask such things from him.

How much do you regret not locking that thread when I mentioned more than once that it served no purpose apart from bringing unwanted attention to yourself?

Stop rubbing salt into his wounds. 

Once you've posted something here on bitcointalk, there's really no hiding it anymore. Even if he hadn't made that merit source application thread, I think it would've eventually found out about the cheating anyway. Sooner or later, there would've been evidence pointing to it.

As for returning the prize, I honestly doubt he'll do it. If I were in his position and I truly believed I didn't cheat, why would I return the prize? Doing so would feel like admitting guilt. If you know you're innocent, it doesn't make much sense to give it back.

[JollyGood]

I think he needs help with a decision so that people gradually forget his bad story.

He stated his fight to clear his name. I just do not see him doing anything proactive at all. The images in the Pizza Day competition were not a figment of our combined imaginations.

A very important component of this story is the fact he won $1500 and the ThemePen account was already a merit source therefore the chances of members forgetting anything (related to this matter) is highly unlikely.

The request to be a merit source is an additional rudeness, he obviously overestimated his plans to create a serious account farm. I did not see that he convinced anyone of his innocence

As of now, he has not made a compelling case at all yet believes he will clear his name. His merit source application became the primary reason for his current predicament.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

Is he seriously asking you via PM to remove the negative tag?

He asked me for it too, which is perfectly reasonable, just as it’s perfectly reasonable that I don’t remove it. With the same cheek he displayed in trying to become a merit source, he has been sending private messages playing the victim, using the same tone that can be seen in the replies to this and the other thread. Ultimately, these accounts – which are nothing more than alts or members of the same bot farm – have done nothing but accumulate more and more tags through their behaviour.

[examplens]

Is he seriously asking you via PM to remove the negative tag?

He asked me for it too, which is perfectly reasonable, just as it’s perfectly reasonable that I don’t remove it. With the same cheek he displayed in trying to become a merit source, he has been sending private messages playing the victim, using the same tone that can be seen in the replies to this and the other thread. Ultimately, these accounts – which are nothing more than alts or members of the same bot farm – have done nothing but accumulate more and more tags through their behaviour.

If you removed the tags, he would certainly present it here as proof that it is not his fault.
So he claimed here that nothing discriminatory was found on the altt forum, although his request to remove the tag was rejected there. He only provoked me to make an observation with evidence from the pizza contest.
He still only partially answers the questions asked here. I'll wait for a while, maybe there will be an answer before I leave feedback.

[LogitechMouse]

ThemePen’s case definitely made things harder for me, but facts don't change: I have no connection to them. I don't know them personally, and I’m not going to let a misunderstanding ruin what I’ve built here. I’ve put a lot of time, effort, and hard work into this account and this forum, and I will keep defending my identity until the end.

With the years that I've been in the forum, I've seen similar cases as you are right now. Multi-accounts. Not all of them, but some of them tried to defend themselves from the allegation, but in the end, they just gave up, and correct me on this one, but I haven't seen anybody who got tagged for having multi-accounts and abuse, and after defending themselves, they ended up winning and got their negative tags removed.

I wonder if you'll be the first one who will be doing that though (at least for me), but with how it looks, I believe it's almost close to impossible... or let's just say that it's impossible . I wonder if you really will defend your identity UNTIL THE VERY END.

[lovesmayfamilis]

ThemePen’s case definitely made things harder for me, but facts don't change: I have no connection to them. I don't know them personally, and I’m not going to let a misunderstanding ruin what I’ve built here. I’ve put a lot of time, effort, and hard work into this account and this forum, and I will keep defending my identity until the end.

With the years that I've been in the forum, I've seen similar cases as you are right now. Multi-accounts. Not all of them, but some of them tried to defend themselves from the allegation, but in the end, they just gave up, and correct me on this one, but I haven't seen anybody who got tagged for having multi-accounts and abuse, and after defending themselves, they ended up winning and got their negative tags removed.

I wonder if you'll be the first one who will be doing that though (at least for me), but with how it looks, I believe it's almost close to impossible... or let's just say that it's impossible . I wonder if you really will defend your identity UNTIL THE VERY END.

Well, how about that? We have some good stories too. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=3504269

[JollyGood]

This is the PM he sent to me on 3rd August 2026. It was not part of a conversation, I was not expecting the PM therefore I can post it as I am not bound to any ethics of secrecy especially since he did not ask me to keep the contents private.

As you can see, he was mentioning your name as a reason why I should remove (or at the very least revise) my tag because he said you know he is not lying. I suppose he will use any tactic possible when trying to have his negative tags removed:

Dear JollyGood,

I have been fighting this since day one, and I'm fighting because I have no connection with them. I will be replying in the main thread... I think ThemePen has made my case worst now... He's clearly close friend of Rustam and now they both are denying.


anyway I'm ready to give you anything proof you need to prove my identity. But I promise and swear I am not part of these farms. Even @examplens, who brought the evidence, did not tag me with red trust. I believe he has access to my IP logs on the Altcointalk forum and he knows that why my IP changed and when it changed, it changed before that case, and he knows I was not lying.

So this is a humble request: please remove the tag you can keep it neutral if you like until proven, since I have already given every detail from day one. If you remove it, I will also ask others to do the same, and I believe they will listen, since you are well respected among them. Thank you very much.

If you removed the tags, he would certainly present it here as proof that it is not his fault.
So he claimed here that nothing discriminatory was found on the altt forum, although his request to remove the tag was rejected there. He only provoked me to make an observation with evidence from the pizza contest.
He still only partially answers the questions asked here. I'll wait for a while, maybe there will be an answer before I leave feedback.