Do we have list of best, trusted and reliable casinos in this forum.

[Darker45]

I don't think it's a wise idea. Casinos come and go. Some are clean today, dirty the following the day. To a certain extent, casinos are trustworthy until they aren't.

For a forum moderator to pin a list of the best casinos on this board would make it appear as if the forum is officially endorsing certain brands, which isn't the case. And to come up with such a list, ranks will probably be subjectively assigned despite looking at their track records. Surely, it would matter if certain brands are endorsed by who's who on the forum.

[DubemIfedigbo001]

Bitlist has review some casino gambling site but here are more thoughts on trust or ratings. I used to review platforms on casino ratings before, but not anymore. Ratings are not the ultimate thing to look out for before using a casino. Nowadays, ratings are bought, both low ratings by competitors and high ratings by the company. High ratings are most often bought by the company to increase its reputation through trust reviews, while competitors also pay people to give low ratings to reduce the company's reputation. The casino business is a competitive business, and casinos will do anything to lure new customers and retain current customers. I no longer trust review sites and casino trackers because they are privately owned platforms that can be bribed by a casino company with good offers.

Anyways check this out - https://bitlist.co/casinos. Remeber verify dont trust.

I agree with you, I don't think there are many honest feedbacks anymore since a certain perception can be bought. Same reason eating is shit and at least more accurate information can only be done via research. Forums like this where there's freedom of speech helps a lot and you can verify evidence of any scam against a casino, gauge their team responsiveness to such accusations, how dedicated they're to resolve such, e.t.c. this would help you evaluate for yourself if it's the best option for you.

Accusations doesn't make a casino a scam, there are fake ones as you pointed out. Their dedication to engaging the accusation and resolving it also says a lot about their customer relation and integrity.

[freedomgo]

You don’t really need a list from me or us, because anything I give could still be biased. It may be better if you discover the casinos yourself. You’re already an old member, so I’m sure you know where to look and what signs to check before trusting one. One simple tip, look at the ANN threads that get bumped often. Those are usually the more active and popular casinos. But don’t judge only by how active the thread is. Check why it keeps getting bumped. Positive feedback is a good sign, but if most of the replies are complaints, then that activity means something else.

[BitBakerr1]

I love this idea, bitcointalk forum has gotten to a point where we need something like this since casinos are always coming here to do advert and they are getting a lot of customers here and some of this people get scammed of their money. If we can allow casinos to operate in this forum we need to also have a list of good and trustworthy casinos that people can use and trust.
If this list is being created all the casinos here are going to be more careful and will do everything possible to make sure they are topping the list because if they are at the bottom they know they are going to lose a lot of customers.
I’m in support of this list and it should be done without favoring anyone or any casino.

[Findingnemo]

Best casino doesn't necessarily mean that is never accused of anything, even the most preferred ones like stake often have a dozen of open accusation but 98% of them were just a rant thread after losing money and demanding their deposit back after they lose to a casino and in some cases there can be some valid which can be resolved once the user submit the valid evidence that they didn't break any terms that cause them the loss.

[ultrloa]

I don't think it's a wise idea. Casinos come and go. Some are clean today, dirty the following the day. To a certain extent, casinos are trustworthy until they aren't.

For a forum moderator to pin a list of the best casinos on this board would make it appear as if the forum is officially endorsing certain brands, which isn't the case. And to come up with such a list, ranks will probably be subjectively assigned despite looking at their track records. Surely, it would matter if certain brands are endorsed by who's who on the forum.

Its not beneficial for the forum if they do that, because it will just create huge confusion to people, which somehow later on might misleads lots of people.

Reputation change and we don't know on how long they remain good.

Also if admins will do that for sure that many people will get affected if one of those casinos turn as scam.

So its good that the admins and mods remain neutral on this matter. Also we actually don't need that because each ANN casino have their own thread here. If people seeks for information's about them, they could just visit those threads and learn about how good they are thru the feedbacks posted by people there.

[tiCeR]

We are always having casino scam accusation, and some accusations have been without it being resolved because the casino has decided not to care about resolving the issue, maybe because they are guilty of the accusations. However, we have casinos that has not been accused of scam and even if they are accused they try as much as possible to resolve the issue.
So I think we should have list of best, trusted and reliable casinos in the forum, there should be a rank on this casinos, the more trustworthy and reliable a casino is the more the casino stay top of the list.

We that are gamblers can do this in this forum and always update it, I believe it will help everyone in this forum when picking a casino to bet with, and it will also make casinos that are here serious in solving issues because the more unresolved issues or scam accusation a casino have the more they go down on the list making it the worst casino to use.
If possible after making such list with a plan to update it every month or week we can tell moderators to pin it on this Gambling and Gambling discussion board.

What do you all think.

To get as much value from such a summary as possible, users would at best be providing the stakes they are usually playing. I think this matters because if 20 users report their experience and 18 users have deposits and withdrawals in the range of $20 to $50, I would suspect that they, on average, experience less trouble with those payments. In the reputation section you usually find complaints or scam accusations when higher stakes are involved. Occasionally there are smaller amounts at risk, but it is mostly about larger withdrawals or winnings.

The issue is that users probably don't like to be transparent about the amounts they gamble with. But again I think this is one metric that's important for other users to know because it doesn't really help when you know that users aren't encountering issues with small withdrawals when you yourself play in a completely different stake size category.

[Solodoski]

I love this idea, bitcointalk forum has gotten to a point where we need something like this since casinos are always coming here to do advert and they are getting a lot of customers here and some of this people get scammed of their money. If we can allow casinos to operate in this forum we need to also have a list of good and trustworthy casinos that people can use and trust.
If this list is being created all the casinos here are going to be more careful and will do everything possible to make sure they are topping the list because if they are at the bottom they know they are going to lose a lot of customers.
I’m in support of this list and it should be done without favoring anyone or any casino.

The forum serves as the list. We don't need a separate list stating the difference for each casino. A casino with a bad reputation in the forum will be dragged into scam accusations. OP is a member who knows his whereabouts in the forum. I believe he knows where to look to find the best casino after having an experience with the casino.

[Inwestour]

Best casino doesn't necessarily mean that is never accused of anything, even the most preferred ones like stake often have a dozen of open accusation but 98% of them were just a rant thread after losing money and demanding their deposit back after they lose to a casino and in some cases there can be some valid which can be resolved once the user submit the valid evidence that they didn't break any terms that cause them the loss.

Such disputes can concern a variety of issues, from payouts and wagering requirements to bonuses and their rules. But generally, casinos that value their reputation will pay out winnings to players who don't resort to any kind of cheating, but mostly play for fun. I don't think anyone here on the forum has tried to create a list of casino reputations, I think the longest serving casinos here don't need any additional promotion.

[YOSHIE]

So I think we should have list of best, trusted and reliable casinos in the forum, there should be a rank on this casinos, the more trustworthy and reliable a casino is the more the casino stay top of the list.

If I don't misunderstand what you mean about the online casinos here, maybe I have said it before, about the list of casinos in question.

Try checking here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5396543.msg59994276#msg59994276


For this reason, no matter how good and how good an online casino is, problems still exist, there will definitely be accusations, just the internet/online anything can happen unexpectedly, competition in the online world is indeed a bit cruel.

You need to think about it, OP, what is your experience with the casino you are currently using, are they cheating you or are they acting fairly for you at this time, I think the gambling site you are currently using is better.

[Agbe]

What do you all think.

Though I have not used all the casinos in the forum and I am not visiting the Scam Accusations Board frequently but from what I know, I don't think there is any casino in this forum that is free from accusation and I have seen a thread about casinos have  more accusations and the ones have less accusations. And to know the casinos which have more accusations, you can visit the scam accusations board. But to have a thread like that is good but will the Op regularly update it?

[Pandu Geddon]

If this list is being created all the casinos here are going to be more careful and will do everything possible to make sure they are topping the list because if they are at the bottom they know they are going to lose a lot of customers.
I’m in support of this list and it should be done without favoring anyone or any casino.

Not necessarily like that. Making a ranking list of several casinos might make it easier for new users who want to find a casino to play at. But this isn't a competition to judge the best casino. 

Have you read about a case where a casino bribed one of the moderators to delete some threads with allegations about that casino? Things like that can happen, so what about the casino ranking list that someone wants to make? 

I don’t care about such a list; if it’s made it could be a good reference. Even if not, there’s no problem for casino ratings.

[Findingnemo]

Best casino doesn't necessarily mean that is never accused of anything, even the most preferred ones like stake often have a dozen of open accusation but 98% of them were just a rant thread after losing money and demanding their deposit back after they lose to a casino and in some cases there can be some valid which can be resolved once the user submit the valid evidence that they didn't break any terms that cause them the loss.

Such disputes can concern a variety of issues, from payouts and wagering requirements to bonuses and their rules. But generally, casinos that value their reputation will pay out winnings to players who don't resort to any kind of cheating, but mostly play for fun. I don't think anyone here on the forum has tried to create a list of casino reputations, I think the longest serving casinos here don't need any additional promotion.

Delayed deposits and withdrawals are the most common reason fo scam accusation threads against the reputed casinos and it is valid one but the delayed ones were fiat payments since casinos also have fiat payment modes for some countries and they are processed from unregulated third party processor which causes delays and even the thirdparty involves selective scamming without the knowledge of casinos.

This takes time to investigate and come into a resolution though, regarding bonus and others can be simply sorted out by highlighting the terms of the particular promo which most of the users fails to read and end up with confusion.

[Miles2006]

What do you all think.

Firstly, I would love to hear your description of what trusted and best casino is probably enlighten us on how you want the research to look like, the fact is we all have our different choice in terms of choosing casino we consider the best and so far we have reliable casinos here in the forum. I understand the point, it’s actually easy making a list which I have seen in previous post but, this time an updated version, I don’t think any casino will be left behind aside from the casino having scam related issue although I have seen these creators try to resolve whatever problem or allegation, so I’m curious will such casino be added after resolving scam accusation.

[suzanne5223]

What do you all think.

It is good to have this list, but it can be misleading at some point when we have a casino that was once trustworthy due to their reliable service that has gone bad.
I believe you understand what i mean based on it being the case of some once reputable casinos on this forum, while some casino shady activities were reported outside this forum.
Unless the gamblers who will be in charge of the list will always do research and follow up on every accusation raised about every listed trustworthy casino.

[jeremypwr]

What do you all think.

I think threads like this have been beat to death already and this one should be locked
There are plenty of resources/threads on the forum already that ask the exact same question as yours

[Zadicar]

I don't think it's a wise idea. Casinos come and go. Some are clean today, dirty the following the day. To a certain extent, casinos are trustworthy until they aren't.

For a forum moderator to pin a list of the best casinos on this board would make it appear as if the forum is officially endorsing certain brands, which isn't the case. And to come up with such a list, ranks will probably be subjectively assigned despite looking at their track records. Surely, it would matter if certain brands are endorsed by who's who on the forum.

Yes, not unless if the list is that actively being updated by OP then it would be great but if not then that lists wont really be accurate and as you said that casinos can come and go and some do faced up some issues on which it would really be that a tedious part on OP and thats why these kind of lists do end up on being stopped or abandoned. Somehow if you are really that eager to know to look for those list then it might be that shown or given by the earlier poster but of course you should be that still on your own diligence on trying out to verify everything or search up on something for some current or recent issues or whatever that it is that similar into this. So it will really be that up to you whether you would be that depositing or looking for something much more better. We do have tons of crypto casinos now on which we can be able to choose on which one is the best.

[OgNasty]

You can look at some of the signatures users are wearing and see what casinos are attracting reputable advertising partners. That is a great way to determine the trustworthiness of a site. Not just on this forum, but who is the casino paying to represent them in more public venues. Superstars have vetting processes that go far beyond what users here would look into.

[JoyceBTC]

Bitlist has review some casino gambling site but here are more thoughts on trust or ratings. I used to review platforms on casino ratings before, but not anymore. Ratings are not the ultimate thing to look out for before using a casino. Nowadays, ratings are bought, both low ratings by competitors and high ratings by the company. High ratings are most often bought by the company to increase its reputation through trust reviews, while competitors also pay people to give low ratings to reduce the company's reputation. The casino business is a competitive business, and casinos will do anything to lure new customers and retain current customers. I no longer trust review sites and casino trackers because they are privately owned platforms that can be bribed by a casino company with good offers.

Anyways check this out - https://bitlist.co/casinos. Remeber verify dont trust.

Yes, what you said is correct about most casino buying ratings and also manipulating their ratings and reviews which has made it no longer reliable for players to trust on the casino. Another way for also not falling trick to most of this review or rating is for players to check reviews from players about that casino from other sources, also make sure the casino is licensed and also review TOS. Combining this methods might go a long way for players to make decisions rather than depending only on the ratings on the casino site.

[Hatchy]

Anyways check this out - https://bitlist.co/casinos. Remeber verify dont trust.

Yes, bitlitst is the first place that comes to my mind when I want to recommend best casinos to anyone. I think it's creator Did very well with compilation of both casino and different exchanges or services and you can find most of them reputable over there. But like you said, it's better to verify anyone before you trust them. List or no list, before using any casinos or services, it's best to verify if they can be trusted. Some casinos that have come to the forum were either with bad intentions or just are not reliable. We have had several of these kind of casino in a single year but you cannot always know which service will turn out to be a scam except it's being run by learners who already failed from the start..