Casinos, players don't only serve for profits.

[marrcelo]

Casinos have to worry about the mental and financial health of their players. There has to be a loss limit, lock the account for a week, a month, even forever. On the casino's page, visible for everyone to see on the casino's first page, bankroll management tips, psychological counseling available to help their clients. Because an addicted player who loses a lot of money will probably never want to participate in gambling again, and will become a testimony and example to other people, who will speak bad and stay away from any casino. So the casino that worries about its clients will be well respected, will have more credibility and more profit and will be a highlight in the segment, and with this many more players, the casino will be recognized because it worries about the mental and financial health of its players and doesn't only aim for profit, and will differentiate itself from its competitors positively, everyone wins, casino and players.

What's your opinion?

[Maslate]

From what I know, self-exclusion is still the most common tool offered by smaller casinos. Some bigger platforms may have systems that try to detect risky gambling behavior, but many casinos probably will not step in unless the gambler takes action first.

At the end of the day, the gambler still has to decide whether to set limits or request self-exclusion. We are always reminded to gamble responsibly, so we also have to take responsibility for our own actions. The casino will not really care if we keep losing because that is how they make money.

So once someone feels they are already losing control, self-exclusion is probably the best option.

By the way, I think this topic belongs in Gambling Discussion, not on this board.

[Cointxz]

Casinos have to worry about the mental and financial health of their players. There has to be a loss limit, lock the account for a week, a month, even forever. On the casino's page, visible for everyone to see on the casino's first page, bankroll management tips, psychological counseling available to help their clients. Because an addicted player who loses a lot of money will probably never want to participate in gambling again, and will become a testimony and example to other people, who will speak bad and stay away from any casino. So the casino that worries about its clients will be well respected, will have more credibility and more profit and will be a highlight in the segment, and with this many more players, the casino will be recognized because it worries about the mental and financial health of its players and doesn't only aim for profit, and will differentiate itself from its competitors positively, everyone wins, casino and players.

What's your opinion?

First of all, move this topic on gambling discussion board using the move button on the bottom of your thread.

Some casino like Stake has a feature called “Stake smart” that gives many option to set restriction in your account such as total win, lose wager, deposit amount and temporary break option aside front the self exclusion feature.

Casino also have responsible gambling terms to guide gamblers properly. There’s a tool there but gambler tend to ignore those tools.

[Ruttoshi]

If you say this to the casinos what about the gamblers. Haven't you heard of a gambler that will ask the casino to put his account on self exclusion and later, go open a new account in a different casino entirely, and continue gambling.

There's nothing the casinos can do to stop an addicted gambler than to cooperate with him and hit the self exclusion button if he asks. The only persons that can help an addicted gambler are his loved ones. Responsible gambling is being practical.

[un_rank]

Casinos are in primarily for the profits, that's why they throw in the amount of money they do to stay operational and competitive. They also can't dictate for the gamblers what their habits should be, you are responsible for your gameplay just as you are with any other habit your adopt.

What they can do is ensure that when you choose yo self excluded, no matter how much profit you bring in to them they don't allow you back either on that account or another one. There have been cases where a casino allowed a self excluded player on a different account which he completed KYC from showing his identity, this should always be flagged and blocked.

They can also have bigger banners on responsible gambling.

,- Jay -

[davis196]

Casinos have to worry about the mental and financial health of their players. There has to be a loss limit, lock the account for a week, a month, even forever. On the casino's page, visible for everyone to see on the casino's first page, bankroll management tips, psychological counseling available to help their clients. Because an addicted player who loses a lot of money will probably never want to participate in gambling again, and will become a testimony and example to other people, who will speak bad and stay away from any casino. So the casino that worries about its clients will be well respected, will have more credibility and more profit and will be a highlight in the segment, and with this many more players, the casino will be recognized because it worries about the mental and financial health of its players and doesn't only aim for profit, and will differentiate itself from its competitors positively, everyone wins, casino and players.

What's your opinion?

The biggest crypto casinos have a "Responsible Gambling" webpage URL, that is placed at the bottom of the frontpage. Is that not enough for you? Imagine a casino putting all the things you have mentioned on their frontpage(bankroll management, psychological counselling, etc.). Don't you think that this would cause damage to the overall conversion rate of that casino? All the other casinos would make their frontpages as appealing a possible, which would boost their conversion rates and more people will signup and deposit money. The casinos won't do what you ask them to do, unless they are legally forced by the authorities. The hardcore gamblers would always choose the casinos, that offer the best bonuses and the best overall experience over the casinos, that are "socially responsible"

[sunsilk]

Casinos have to worry about the mental and financial health of their players. There has to be a loss limit, lock the account for a week, a month, even forever.

No, they're not going to take care of that. They're a business and no one forces to gamble. It's the free will of the gambler why they fall for their own volition.

There's the self exclude and everything is in the hands of the gambler.

Because an addicted player who loses a lot of money will probably never want to participate in gambling again, and will become a testimony and example to other people, who will speak bad and stay away from any casino.

Yes, most likely they're going to speak about their experience and how they'll tell others to avoid gambling.

But that's the latter part when they fail to recover and chase their losses.

[bitLeap]

Casinos have to worry about the mental and financial health of their players. There has to be a loss limit, lock the account for a week, a month, even forever. On the casino's page, visible for everyone to see on the casino's first page, bankroll management tips, psychological counseling available to help their clients. Because an addicted player who loses a lot of money will probably never want to participate in gambling again, and will become a testimony and example to other people, who will speak bad and stay away from any casino. So the casino that worries about its clients will be well respected, will have more credibility and more profit and will be a highlight in the segment, and with this many more players, the casino will be recognized because it worries about the mental and financial health of its players and doesn't only aim for profit, and will differentiate itself from its competitors positively, everyone wins, casino and players.

What's your opinion?

I know you want the casino to be closer to the gambler personally but that is obviously very unprofessional. All have an SOP where both parties agree to the terms and conditions. Therefore, users have to educate themselves about the game. Casinos are only limited to the services of game providers even with the existence of self-exclusion it is more than enough as a form of casino involvement to remind again that gamblers should be more responsible for their bets. The problem all comes back to the gambler, and when The Gambler is addicted it is no longer the casino's responsibility.

[lovesmayfamilis]

My God, an idea from the Aldous Huxley series, Utopia and nothing else. Buddy, the casino doesn't owe anyone anything in terms of psychology. If a person is unwell and does not know how to manage their finances and emotions, the casino should not require a certificate from a psychotherapist. Gambling is a business, and casinos are primarily interested in their profits. The clients' profit is a part of the program from the profits in their own business. So stop making things up or fantasizing about what's better and what should be. If a casino is causing a problem for someone, then it's not a problem for the casino itself.

[blomen]

you can never stop someone who wants to lose money at a casino. these days, even if you block access to someone’s account to prevent them from gambling, it only takes minutes for them to continue from a new account or a new casino. that’s why this isn’t the solution.

every casino player must be in control of themselves. if a person loses control and becomes addicted simply because they’re losing money on a screen, they have much bigger problems in life. even if a casino does what you suggest and prevents the user from placing bets, the outcome won’t change.

[knowngunman]

What's your opinion?

You're not forced to gamble by casinos. It's your choice to play on their platform and you give consent that you're above 18 years or as the case maybe. It's your responsibility to gamble responsibly. Casinos should not blamed for your inability to control yourself. Casinos are trying their best to control people from getting addicted by introducing some new features like self exclusion for how long you wish to take break. You can set other limits too and even session time out that log you out after a certain time you set. Although it depends on the platform you're playing but most casinos now offer these features. By the way, you should know casinos are running a business and you shouldn't expect them to do everything to keep them out of business.

[Africolo]

Casinos have to worry about the mental and financial health of their players. There has to be a loss limit, lock the account for a week, a month, even forever. On the casino's page, visible for everyone to see on the casino's first page, bankroll management tips, psychological counseling available to help their clients. Because an addicted player who loses a lot of money will probably never want to participate in gambling again, and will become a testimony and example to other people, who will speak bad and stay away from any casino. So the casino that worries about its clients will be well respected, will have more credibility and more profit and will be a highlight in the segment, and with this many more players, the casino will be recognized because it worries about the mental and financial health of its players and doesn't only aim for profit, and will differentiate itself from its competitors positively, everyone wins, casino and players.

What's your opinion?

I don't think this is a good opinion In as much as you are right in some ways,  i don't see casinos looking out for the welfare of their clients as it's the sole responsibility of a gambling to take care of his mental health and stability and not go bankrupt due to irresponsible gambling and not having a budget and bankroll Management for oneself, it's advisable to withdraw from gambling if you have noticed that you are becoming addicted and no longer betting with the lay down budget, self exclusion remains the best way of not becoming addicted to casinos.

And mind you, casinos cares about their profits so they won't do anything that will jeopardize their chances of making profits, the worst part of this whole stuff is that gambler are just too greedy that they can't stay away from gambling even when they are on loosing streak, they just can't control their gambling habits and stay mentally fit.

[SPIDERMAN008]

Those who control or own casino sites would never want a player to bet with a healthy mind. The more they can make a gambler mentally ill, the more the gambler will become addicted and the casino sites will profit. It is disliked but it is true. However, some casino companies may promote responsible betting and gambling for entertainment purposes, but this may also be to attract people. Casino sites will only be more profitable if people are betting regularly and losing money. If a player sets a budget, plays for a short time and stops when they reach the loss limit, then the casino will not be able to profit much from him. And a gambler may initially think that he will never get addicted. But once he gets addicted, even if the casino site can be closed, he will still find another casino site and start betting there. If the gambler cannot control himself, cannot stop betting at the right time, then the casino sites will not be of any use. And the casino sites will not naturally create a system that will cause their own losses. They will always want to make as much profit as possible. They do not care at all about how much the gambler is physically or financially damaged. Because they know that a gambler will lose all his money, all his assets, after that he will stop betting . In the meantime, they will get more users by marketing through advertisements. That is why we talk about betting responsibly so often. And I myself do not bet beyond my budget. I can stop betting at any time. To do this, I sometimes deliberately stop betting for a few days. This has become a good habit for me.

[danherbias07]

They can help those who are rehabilitated due to gambling addiction or donate some funds, but it's difficult to know one by one who is addicted or not. I mean, how? Unless they speak or report it.

They have options for control in gambling.

Self-exclusion is one.
https://stake.games/responsible-gambling/exclusion


Then there is the gambling limit.
https://stake.games/responsible-gambling/gambling-limits

-Limit type
-Limit amount
-Limit period

Deposit limit is also an option.
https://stake.games/responsible-gambling/deposit-limits

A gambler can use those features to avoid becoming a gambling addict. Gambling is a choice. No one forced a gambler to do it. So, we should be responsible for what we do.

[Porfirii]

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What's your opinion?

Although for many these would be legitimate measures of protection for the user, for others they would imply inadmissible interference with the right to individual liberty. As mentioned above, most casinos with a certain reputation have a self-exclusion system. Asking to go further and unilaterally set limits for users I don't think will succeed in most cases and in the short term.

I don't think it's so much that they are businesses whose main objective is to make money, but because it is not a practice that occurs in almost any economic activity.

Caveat emptor: Prudence must be exercised on the part of the buyer. If this is the case in general, why should it not be when it comes to setting one's own limits?

[freedomgo]

Then there is the gambling limit.
https://stake.games/responsible-gambling/gambling-limits

Thanks for sharing, danherbias07. I think this method is better than going straight to self-exclusion.

Once you press that self-exclusion button, especially if you choose one year, you really have to stay away from gambling for the whole year. For someone who is already addicted, stopping suddenly can be very hard. It’s like smoking, you can’t always quit instantly. Sometimes you need to reduce it slowly.

So I think setting limits first is a better approach. Start with a strict gambling limit, then slowly reduce it. If you still can’t control yourself even with limits, then self-exclusion should be the last option.

[Junii]

What's your opinion?

You do not have to forget that casinos are businesses not charities. If they really care about the mental health of the people who gamble there money then why they spend millions of dollars on ads and bonuses and even they make  psychological tricks to keep people playing. No doubt a person who loses everything there are some chances that he/she never came back  but hundreds of new players joins those platforms daily. Bank roll management tools are important but expecting from casinos that they care about people before profit does not make any sense because their business only run when people consistently doing gamble not like when they stop.

[Dunamisx]

Casinos a business operators and don't expect them to take the responsibility of being a therapist or any other category of counselors or advisor of gambling, you can't expect them to begin to publish all this on their platform when we can easily manage to discipline how we gamble and set limits to whatever thing we have in mind or plan ahead right before gambling, don't be surprised still that despite all this would have been implemented by the casinos, some players will not still see the relevance and do as they wish in an abnormal way with gambling.

[Natalim]

You do not have to forget that casinos are businesses not charities. If they really care about the mental health of the people who gamble there money then why they spend millions of dollars on ads and bonuses and even they make  psychological tricks to keep people playing.

Casinos should not be allowed to become too greedy. That is why they need proper regulation. Responsible gambling should not only be the responsibility of the gambler.

Regulators should also monitor casinos and require them to take action when they notice someone showing signs of problem gambling. The most common option is self-exclusion, which the gambler can activate by themselves. I think this is already a basic requirement in most casinos now.

Someone also mentioned loss limits, where players can set how much they are allowed to lose. From what I remember, self-exclusion was not common before. It was only added later and eventually became required. So it is possible that more casinos are also starting to add loss-limit settings. Knowing Stake is a big casino, they most probably already have it or are moving in that direction.

[Rustam Meraj]

Reasoning is at first glance sound, but there is basic conflict of interest here. Casinos make most of their money from problem gamblers, some guesses put this at more than 40% of their profits. If you really want to protect that group, you are going to have to take loss on your most profitable customer base.

Casinos that have introduced any real responsible gambling rules (such as cooling-off periods or AI spend alerts) do so under lawmaker pressure, other than as free choice measure. GamStop in UK is likely the most successful industry wide self ban scheme, and that required years of pressure from government to get right. Business rewards do not get replaced by good intentions. Laws do.