⚽ Vega.bet ⚽ Bundesliga ⚽ Football Pool Discussion Thread 2026/2027

[rdluffy]

My predictions are going really badly, worse than I imagined 

I’m thinking of using AI to generate a report for me on the teams most recent matches, their overall records, home and away records, head-to-head results, etc
Does anyone here do it this way?

During the World Cup, I ran an experiment using AI to predict the exact results, but it was terrible, I got more wrong than I would have using my intuition, hehehe, but I'm thinking to make e nice and huge table to help me 

[pawel7777]

My predictions are going really badly, worse than I imagined  

I’m thinking of using AI to generate a report for me on the teams most recent matches, their overall records, home and away records, head-to-head results, etc
Does anyone here do it this way?

During the World Cup, I ran an experiment using AI to predict the exact results, but it was terrible, I got more wrong than I would have using my intuition, hehehe, but I'm thinking to make e nice and huge table to help me  

Free versions of AI agents probably are not very useful for the purpose. To do it right, you'd likely need a more advanced version and spend some amount of time on designing the right prompts, telling AI what to focus on and feed it reliable sources of stats that you want to be considered.
But to be fair, all that hard work is already analysed by bookies, so all you need is to check the odds to see what's the most probable result and go with it (or against it if that's your strategy).

ps did you guys notice how horribly off the odds in Kicktipp's prediction centre are? I'm not sure how do they calculate them.

[rdluffy]

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Free versions of AI agents probably are not very useful for the purpose. To do it right, you'd likely need a more advanced version and spend some amount of time on designing the right prompts, telling AI what to focus on and feed it reliable sources of stats that you want to be considered.
But to be fair, all that hard work is already analysed by bookies, so all you need is to check the odds to see what's the most probable result and go with it (or against it if that's your strategy).

ps did you guys notice how horribly off the odds in Kicktipp's prediction centre are? I'm not sure how do they calculate them.

I have 2 AI's paid plan, so I’ll end up taking this test
But I want to emphasize that the point isn’t to ask for results, but rather to gather as much relevant information as possible in a well-organized table format that can help me make my picks on prediction day

Or I could just give up on the idea and go with the odds from the bookmakers, who’ll have already done this for me without charging anything extra, hahaha (just kidding) 

I’ve noticed that Kicktipp’s odds aren’t exactly the same as the bookies, but I haven’t compared them to see which one has a better hit rate

[mv1986]

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Not yet! Not worried about him experimenting. Netherlands will be doing the same... maybe? Not following the news at all, this is just going to be an all-in bet to keep things flowing. Don't know if Klopp still got it but he always had a knack for using small personalities to assemble panic-inducing machinations.

Thank me later, German fans!

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Not yet! Not worried about him experimenting. Netherlands will be doing the same... maybe? Not following the news at all, this is just going to be an all-in bet to keep things flowing. Don't know if Klopp still got it but he always had a knack for using small personalities to assemble panic-inducing machinations.

Thank me later, German fans!

I don't want to talk you out of this because you know, probably going to go wrong and then you would have someone you could blame.
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Apart from the fact that they had the lead for so long, German played terribly bad. It's just not Germany anymore and I think a lot of people are still stuck in the past in 2014 when they won the World Cup. Those times couldn't be any more over than they actually are. I haven't been a big fan of their football for almost decade. Of course I enjoy when they win games, first and foremost more important games, but it is not a team that has the slightest chance in the near future to play for championships.

The Netherlands have been the better team by far. 12-1 corners? 8-2 shots on target? What was this? Netherlands - Tanzania?

[buwaytress]

^ Well, mv, it had to happen. Fairplay to NL though, they should actually have won and the numbers you posted are not a lie.

I’ve noticed that Kicktipp’s odds aren’t exactly the same as the bookies, but I haven’t compared them to see which one has a better hit rate

Some are very way off, actually. I don't pay attention to it any longer but you'd often see 20x on kicktipp when it's not even 10x on a book. I have a feeling the odds are calculated long ahead of schedule and not updated. Can't be bothered to check, of course haha

[pawel7777]

I have 2 AI's paid plan, so I’ll end up taking this test
But I want to emphasize that the point isn’t to ask for results, but rather to gather as much relevant information as possible in a well-organized table format that can help me make my picks on prediction day

Well, if you trust AI, then asking for results based on the criteria/statistics you ask it to consider is not a bad move. It should be able to do it faster and more reliably then you doing it manually.
The tricky part would be picking the right stats, i.e. if you want to consider head-to-head results from 2, 3 or more years ago, or ignore them.

And the strategy would differ on whether your goal is to win the entire season or just particular week. If you're aiming for a long-term big win, you should probably be going with the most probable option and for consistency. But if you're aiming for winning a week ($50 free bet) then, in certain circumstances you may be forced to against the grain and pick underdogs, to give you advantage over others.

[mv1986]

I’ve noticed that Kicktipp’s odds aren’t exactly the same as the bookies, but I haven’t compared them to see which one has a better hit rate

Some are very way off, actually. I don't pay attention to it any longer but you'd often see 20x on kicktipp when it's not even 10x on a book. I have a feeling the odds are calculated long ahead of schedule and not updated. Can't be bothered to check, of course haha

I would rather say those odds on kicktipp are just buggy. If it is AI, what kind of AI is it? At first I thought the same, maybe they calculated it way ahead, but when you pay closer attention to the numbers, sometimes they don't match up at all. Just doesn't make sense. I have seen odds there as high as almost 40. That just never exists in the Bundesliga pre-game.

[LTU_btc]

I’ve noticed that Kicktipp’s odds aren’t exactly the same as the bookies, but I haven’t compared them to see which one has a better hit rate

Some are very way off, actually. I don't pay attention to it any longer but you'd often see 20x on kicktipp when it's not even 10x on a book. I have a feeling the odds are calculated long ahead of schedule and not updated. Can't be bothered to check, of course haha

I would rather say those odds on kicktipp are just buggy. If it is AI, what kind of AI is it? At first I thought the same, maybe they calculated it way ahead, but when you pay closer attention to the numbers, sometimes they don't match up at all. Just doesn't make sense. I have seen odds there as high as almost 40. That just never exists in the Bundesliga pre-game.

I'm not even sure that these numbers have something common with actual odds. I guess these numbers may reflect player's selections on Kicktipp, which outcome they backed. Now I made screenshot of upcoming round odds, going to check how it's going to change when round will begin after international break.
BTW, when we started to play Bundesliga pool, Kicktipp have used actual odds and IIRC when you clicked on these odds, they redirected you to one bookmaker website.

[buwaytress]

I would rather say those odds on kicktipp are just buggy. If it is AI, what kind of AI is it? At first I thought the same, maybe they calculated it way ahead, but when you pay closer attention to the numbers, sometimes they don't match up at all. Just doesn't make sense. I have seen odds there as high as almost 40. That just never exists in the Bundesliga pre-game.

40/1 would have been relatively normal in a book ten years ago, 20x even five years ago was common enough, now there's just a terrible take from the house on juice these days you scrape for a 10x.

I'm not even sure that these numbers have something common with actual odds. I guess these numbers may reflect player's selections on Kicktipp, which outcome they backed. Now I made screenshot of upcoming round odds, going to check how it's going to change when round will begin after international break.
BTW, when we started to play Bundesliga pool, Kicktipp have used actual odds and IIRC when you clicked on these odds, they redirected you to one bookmaker website.

The odds are there even before season starts, so not sure if it's based on player picks. All the same, wish I were that curious, but now we have you and others who'll start investigating, I'll sit back and wait for the results hahaha. #hollowsmiles

[cygan]

the two-week international break is finally over, and in exactly 10 hours, matchday #5 of the bundesliga kicks off with the 'awesome' game between dortmund and bremen!
and with it, another chance to win a 50USDT freebet at Vega.bet
to make sure everyone has this chance, here’s my weekly reminder for those who haven’t submitted any picks yet - namely:

Code: buwaytress dzonikg28 slaman29 KTChampions LTU_btc cryptofrka Saint-loup jayce rdluffy el che

[KTChampions]

the two-week international break is finally over, and in exactly 10 hours, matchday #5 of the bundesliga kicks off with the 'awesome' game between dortmund and bremen!
and with it, another chance to win a 50USDT freebet at Vega.bet
to make sure everyone has this chance, here’s my weekly reminder for those who haven’t submitted any picks yet - namely:

Code: KTChampions

Thanks for the reminder, after a month-long break, this is exactly what I needed 
It looks like a standard round lies ahead, with no blockbuster matchups, the most interesting one, in my view, is Mainz vs. Leverkusen - two teams sitting close together in the standings who will determine each other's fate. Both clubs underperformed last year and clearly want to rectify that this season.
As for Dortmund, an easy win is expected, the odds are just above 1.3, so I don't think it's suitable for cash bets.

[rdluffy]

Thanks for always reminding us, cygan, hehe
Next time, just let me know, no need to tell the others
Who knows, maybe I can score some extra points, hahahaha (just kidding) 

I already made my predictions early because there’s a game today

I tried making a prediction a little differently, let’s see if it works out
I still haven’t done what I mentioned: using AI to create a nice stats table for me, but let’s see if my current method will give me better results than I’ve been getting so far

[arallmuus]

matchday #5 of the bundesliga kicks off with the 'awesome' game between dortmund and bremen!

Im not sure what kind of sorcery did you pull but you are the only one with draw on this game

Heck the game game was 0-0 until 80th minute then Dortmund scored one, they scored another 5 minutes after that only to let Bremen equalized 2 goals in less than 5 minutes.

I got couple of ticket that got ruined because of this. As always there will be weird results after International break but this is just next level

[mv1986]

No comment @cygan, no comment Unbelievable that you sticked with Bremen again and I am sure all our pool participants must have thought that you are crazy, but those three points are big points for you, respect! The worst of it is that Füllkrug, damn Füllkrug scored that goal and now thinks he is national team material again... But he really isn't in my opinion. You know "auch ein blindes Huhn findet mal ein Korn".

@buwaytress, I am sure that the fact this game ended in a draw lets you sleep a little bit better about your missed submission. I guess you would have chosen Dortmund to win (like everyone else except for crazy cygan). Unbelievable game.

[buwaytress]

Thanks jayce and arallmuus for reminding me, I was too busy fighting the corruption of the mafia tonight I forgot about my picks. But I loved that the game ended with a Bremen "victory", indeed mv, I would have gone for a huge BVB blowout.

Until tomorrow, know that I was a gentleman and an advocate of sportsmanship!

[slaman29]

Strange! I was super sure I sent my answers already but I saw everything was blanked, and mafia is not in charge of this pool so I cannot blame them but myself 

Unbelievable really about Werder Bremen or is this time to say it is unbelievable about Borussia? I bet you Champions League messing with a hell lot of people.

[pawel7777]

Betting on a draw was a bold move, especially considering Dortmund had 100% win ratio and were playing at home. Well done cygan.
This made me rethink my predictions, and I decided to go for a 2-2 draw in Augsburg Vs Bayern. I may regret it, but I'm betting that the large number of Bayern players participating in the UEFA Nations League will have a negative effect on their performance.

I noticed that some participants don't have dashes for the upcoming games. Is this an indication that they have not yet put any predictions in? Does anyone know?

[pawel7777]

Betting on a draw was a bold move, especially considering Dortmund had 100% win ratio and were playing at home. Well done cygan.
This made me rethink my predictions, and I decided to go for a 2-2 draw in Augsburg Vs Bayern. I may regret it, but I'm betting that the large number of Bayern players participating in the UEFA Nations League will have a negative effect on their performance.

I can't believe I earned my first 4-pointer betting against Bayern. It feels good. I don't even care that I messed up most of the other predictions. It feels like a win on its own.
Just bragging a bit, as I don't often have the chance.

[buwaytress]

Pawel, yeah no idea what those dashes mean. Seems not to make sense that they didn't submit picks when they did for the first games. But how about Hamburg eh? I really felt like they deserved a ook but decided to go for safe picks here. Thankfully no one else thought differently and I maintain my slim lead for now. Long way to go guys don't worry about me.

[mv1986]

Two rather borings games today I guess, or maybe the Freiburg game brings some excitement if they manage to win it.

@Saint-loup and @el che, don't forget to submit your picks. @el che, I feel you need some automatic reminders my friend Or have a serious word with your beatiful blonde assistant. She might be nice, but she is not organizing your "affairs" very well



Am I right @MinoRaiola? You know, can't stop thinking about her