Bitcoin and it's Relationship With Time

[Fragrance1122]

People talk about Bitcoin as digital money, gold or asset but almost no body talk about that "Bitcoin created its own Clock"
Normal finance like banks , stock market , loans, payment and salaries runs on " human time" likewise Monday to Friday traditional working from 9-5, payment take 2-3 business days and if it's holiday you have to wait.

While the Bitcoin network creates one new block every 10 minutes 24/7 and 365 days a year. No weekends, no holidays and no manager needed. It seems like the heartbeat of global financial system now a days.

This actually means that instead of saying that your payment will arrive in 3 days, the people related to Bitcoin says " wait for six confirmations". So time is now measured in blocks not days.

The big idea and the conclusion is that human civilization ran on sun time , then clock time and then business hours. Bitcoin on the other hand introduced "block time", a financial system that doesn't care if you are asleep or if it's a festival Eid, Christmas or Diwali or if the banks are closed. so Bitcoin isn't just changing money but also changing how we measure time in finance.

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[DubemIfedigbo001]

While the Bitcoin network creates one new block every 10 minutes 24/7 and 365 days a year. No weekends, no holidays and no manager needed. It seems like the heartbeat of global financial system now a days.

Bitcoin was created for total freedom, without depending on a third party to use your money, you are totally in charge of how you transact and when you do so, the only exception to this rule are those who still use custodial services, since access to their coins can be blocked by exchanges for one reason or the other.

This actually means that instead of saying that your payment will arrive in 3 days, the people related to Bitcoin says " wait for six confirmations". So time is now measured in blocks not days.

One conformation is enough for your funds to arrive at the receiving address, more confirmations only makes the transaction more secure.

The concept of more confirmations is to add newer blocks to the blockchain after the block that included your transaction, this makes the transaction harder to reverse.

[Marvelockg]

This actually means that instead of saying that your payment will arrive in 3 days, the people related to Bitcoin says " wait for six confirmations". So time is now measured in blocks not days.

Does an average user bother about confirmation or what not, once they carry out any form of transaction, what they are looking out for is how soon the transaction will be completed and not necessarily how long it takes for six confirmation and all. The reason why we still believe that bitcoin has not gotten to the stage where it can be used for daily transaction is because to an extent, the time it takes for one complete transaction is relatively too long. users in this digital age are more after how fast there transaction can be processed. most of them are not after the mechanics behind it processing.

[EarnOnVictor]

" human time" likewise Monday to Friday traditional working from 9-5, payment take 2-3 business days and if it's holiday you have to wait.
While the Bitcoin network creates one new block every 10 minutes 24/7 and 365 days a year. No weekends, no holidays and no manager needed. It seems like the heartbeat of global financial system now a days.

Although you exaggerated things here, it still carries a high level of truth. What you described can be applicable to wire transfer only, as I don't know other means of payment that would take 2-3 business days to clear. And even with Bitcoin, you need human authorisation in many transactions, if they are not automatic. So, if it's a holiday time, the receivers would have to wait as well.

However, where I enjoy Bitcoin the most is in cross-border payment. If I calculated the amount it had saved me in about 10 years in transaction fees, it should be climbing $10,000 now, if not more. Is it the speed and the ability to monitor your transaction progress yourself? Those are incompatible.

[Catenaccio]

While the Bitcoin network creates one new block every 10 minutes 24/7 and 365 days a year. No weekends, no holidays and no manager needed. It seems like the heartbeat of global financial system now a days.

Ten minutes is only the average time of Bitcoin blocks but not all two consecutive blocks have 10 minutes between each other. There are blocks that can be found after several seconds after a previous block, and there are blocks that need more than 10 minutes, even 15, 20 minutes to be found by miners.
https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/bitcoin-confirmationtime.html#alltime

Even the Bitcoin block halvings, people say it happens every four years but it's only a rough time while the exact information is every 210,000 blocks there will be a next Bitcoin halving.

Bitcoin supply vs time is presented in this chart.

If you need more details, read in How is the 21 million bitcoin cap defined and enforced?

[PostQuantumBTC]

There are fiat payments that can show almost immediately within seconds. Examples are the transactions made through the fiat credit card like MasterCard and Visa card. You are referring to wire transfer.

People talk about Bitcoin as digital money, gold or asset but almost no body talk about that "Bitcoin created its own Clock"
Normal finance like banks , stock market , loans, payment and salaries runs on " human time" likewise Monday to Friday traditional working from 9-5, payment take 2-3 business days and if it's holiday you have to wait.

In some countries, the working time or hours is 8 am to 4 pm. I know this is not part of the discussion but I think it will be good if you know that.

For bitcoin confirmation acceptance, I prefer just one block for people that are close to me and 3 confirmation for businesses.

[TheUltraElite]

Maybe in future we will see new methods of time measurement. For now we have the use of bitcoin limited to spending and investing if not anything more than that.

I rarely think about confirmations now a days because I am mostly sending money to merchants for spending purpose and rarely using bitcoin to send anybody money. I know the second one should also be common but its not so in reality.

I myself cant remember when I last time checked for 6 confirmations. Mostly I start using the coins after it has landed on the website page where I am going to spend it.

[Donneski]

Bitcoin in reality did not create a new way to measure time, it simply removed the limits of traditional financial clock. Because the network keeps producing blocks 24/7, transactions can be performed at any time, not the ones that was tied to banking hours, weekends or holidays. While we still use normal time, Bitcoin provides us with the freedom to transact whenever and wherever we want, it is that difference that makes it look like Bitcoin has to its own rhythm.

[hugeblack]

Waiting to get 6 blocks may not seem good for someone who wants to buy daily products or just a cup of coffee compared to someone who wants to buy a car, request a loan/salary, or transfer money to one of his friends in another country.
Therefore, at the level of international transactions, especially those between countries that are not united by agreements, waiting for 6 blocks is a technical revolution.

[SquirrelJulietGarden]

Waiting to get 6 blocks may not seem good for someone who wants to buy daily products or just a cup of coffee compared to someone who wants to buy a car, request a loan/salary, or transfer money to one of his friends in another country.
Therefore, at the level of international transactions, especially those between countries that are not united by agreements, waiting for 6 blocks is a technical revolution.

With small transactions, people want something fast and cheap so Lightning Network can be their more favorite choice than Bitcoin on chain transactions. They surely will not want to wait for 6 confirmations that take about 1 hour even longer to buy a cup of coffee.

6 confirmations are only for very big transaction in its value, and mostly people as well as exchanges only need 1 to 3 confirmations.
How many Bitcoin confirmations is enough?

What's the rule of thumb for an acceptable number of confirmations?

1 confirmation: sufficient for small payments less than $1,000.

3 confirmations: for payments $1,000 - $10,000. Most exchanges require 3 confirmations for deposits.

6 confirmations: good for large payments between $10,000 - $1,000,000. Six is standard for most transactions to be considered secure.

10 confirmations: suggested for large payments greater than $1,000,000.

[Zaguru12]

Does an average user bother about confirmation or what not, once they carry out any form of transaction, what they are looking out for is how soon the transaction will be completed and not necessarily how long it takes for six confirmation and all. The reason why we still believe that bitcoin has not gotten to the stage where it can be used for daily transaction is because to an extent, the time it takes for one complete transaction is relatively too long. users in this digital age are more after how fast there transaction can be processed. most of them are not after the mechanics behind it processing.

You have to read and understand better what OP is actually looking into, bitcoin transactions are measured with the number of confirmation which is same thing as number of blocks mined on top the block which has that transaction. This is because the more number of blocks, the longer the chain or proof of work and the harder it gets to actually have it dropped probably because of chain reorg.

This is needed during payment because if you just accept transactions with just one confirmation there is a possibility of a chain reorg happening and if the transaction is dropped the sender can still be able to replace such transaction (RBF).

OP is right, in bitcoin the measurements of time is in block’s confirmation because most of these blocks are not confirmed in same time, even though the average time is actually 10 minutes, the block can be confirmed either faster or later depending on fast the miners work the proof of work

[As-Soon-As]

The big idea and the conclusion is that human civilization ran on sun time , then clock time and then business hours. Bitcoin on the other hand introduced "block time", a financial system that doesn't care if you are asleep or if it's a festival Eid, Christmas or Diwali or if the banks are closed. so Bitcoin isn't just changing money but also changing how we measure time in finance.
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Waiting for six confirmations in Bitcoin for a simple transaction is very difficult, but for international transactions, Bitcoin is quite suitable and it seems reasonable to be patient, even if it takes some time.
But for quick transactions, waiting for six confirmations in Bitcoin is not possible for me, but if you buy a car, buy a house, send money to a friend, and Bitcoin plays a significant role in international transactions, it is quite suitable.

[Nathrixxx]

This actually means that instead of saying that your payment will arrive in 3 days, the people related to Bitcoin says " wait for six confirmations". So time is now measured in blocks not days.

The idea here is this, Bitcoin has made a lot of revolutionary change when it comes to financial is why many of us will always appreciate having this unique opportunity for our privacy and also control it, with bitcoin network, you will enjoy cheaper transaction fee, faster transaction speed compared to the traditional system, and you can be able to even customize it to your affordability, it has completely solved the challenges of cross border payment and also present unto us many other opportunities we can benefit by investing in Bitcoin.

[Danish Ali]

I had not considered it in this way but it is deep understanding. Finance is always based on living and social cycles, such as sleep, weekends, religious calendars. Bitcoin is first financial system that is completely uncaring to all of them.

Of particular interest is the "six confirmations" structure. It is not about a technical limit, it is about new way of thinking about time. It is not bank opening, it is agreement of the mathematicians. It is different thing, although the clock time may be the same.

One of the lesser talked about new ideas of Bitcoin is block time. There is much of discussion about the store of value, limit on supply, spread out power, but this should be discussed more.

[Awaklara]

But for quick transactions, waiting for six confirmations in Bitcoin is not possible for me, but if you buy a car, buy a house, send money to a friend, and Bitcoin plays a significant role in international transactions, it is quite suitable.

For small and local transactions, using fiat transfers is still more effective. Bank transfers also don’t have major issues on holidays or special days for certain financial transactions. Bitcoin is indeed more convenient for international transactions. Waiting for a few confirmations shouldn’t be a problem because those of us who are used to using Bitcoin surely know how it works.

[Smartprofit]

Yes, bitcoin time now exists. Incidentally, it's often used on the forum for various contests and giveaways. 🙋

You can also use it to protect your copyright, as blockchain history cannot be rewritten.

You can also use bitcoin time to pass coins on to your heirs.

Yes, and you can actually measure time not in hours, but in Bitcoin blocks. Have you heard the Citadel meme? Technological cities of the future where Bitcoin holders will live when the price of Bitcoin exceeds $1,000,000 per coin? Regular watches will be banned in these Citadels. All Citadel residents will measure time in Bitcoin blocks and nothing else! 🧏

[SeriouslyGiveaway]

Yes, bitcoin time now exists. Incidentally, it's often used on the forum for various contests and giveaways. 🙋

You can also use it to protect your copyright, as blockchain history cannot be rewritten.

You can also use bitcoin time to pass coins on to your heirs.

It's not block time or Bitcoin time but Locktime for Bitcoin inheritance.

Using Locktime for inheritance planning, backups or gifts.
What is Locktime?
Time lock (Bitcoin Wiki).

[Popkon6]

While the Bitcoin network creates one new block every 10 minutes 24/7 and 365 days a year. No weekends, no holidays and no manager needed. It seems like the heartbeat of global financial system now a days.
This actually means that instead of saying that your payment will arrive in 3 days, the people related to Bitcoin says " wait for six confirmations". So time is now measured in blocks not days.

If you go to a restaurant and pay for your coffee, you will never wait for 6 confirmations, but you will use your local currency there. But if you wait so long to pay for the bill in a restaurant, it will not be good at all, but it will seem annoying. Because you are on vacation and your bank and local currency are enough for small transactions.
For large transactions, you must have Bitcoin playing the biggest role and you will be able to complete the transaction in an instant.

The big idea and the conclusion is that human civilization ran on sun time , then clock time and then business hours. Bitcoin on the other hand introduced "block time", a financial system that doesn't care if you are asleep or if it's a festival Eid, Christmas or Diwali or if the banks are closed. so Bitcoin isn't just changing money but also changing how we measure time in finance.

Share your views.

Bitcoin will surprise people even more when you use it for making large transactions and for instant transactions from one country to another, then you can take advantage of its proven transaction itself. In this situation, you can also associate yourself with Bitcoin holding, if you buy land or buy a house and if you transact it with Bitcoin, then not many people will know about your financial transaction and the risk will be much less because it has the convenience of carrying.
But if you transact with local currency, then carrying local currency will be very risky. Because you can face any danger on the road, so Bitcoin provides you with savings from all sides.

[Iranus]

People talk about Bitcoin as digital money, gold or asset but almost no body talk about that "Bitcoin created its own Clock"
Normal finance like banks , stock market , loans, payment and salaries runs on " human time" likewise Monday to Friday traditional working from 9-5, payment take 2-3 business days and if it's holiday you have to wait.
While the Bitcoin network creates one new block every 10 minutes 24/7 and 365 days a year. No weekends, no holidays and no manager needed. It seems like the heartbeat of global financial system now a days.

Bitcoin did not actually create any new clock. imo, it created a neutral time reference. in Banking system business hours are man-made. But Bitcoin's block production does not depend on any office or holiday calendar. You also need to keep in mind that 10 minute is not a fixed time. It is just a long term average. If you look at mempool, you will understand that sometime blocks come in 1-2 minutes. Sometime it take 30-60 minute.

This actually means that instead of saying that your payment will arrive in 3 days, the people related to Bitcoin says " wait for six confirmations". So time is now measured in blocks not days.

Another thing is 6 confirmation are not mandatory by any protocol. We use this for our security. Especially in large transaction. For small payment most operator use 1 confirmation.

The big idea and the conclusion is that human civilization ran on sun time , then clock time and then business hours. Bitcoin on the other hand introduced "block time", a financial system that doesn't care if you are asleep or if it's a festival Eid, Christmas or Diwali or if the banks are closed. so Bitcoin isn't just changing money but also changing how we measure time in finance.

You may get quick notification from Visa or bank, but settlement often takes business day. Those who say that settlement in Bitcoin is slow they are actually no-coiner ot anti-bitcoiner, or their brains are malnourished, idk.

[Frankolala]

Although you exaggerated things here, it still carries a high level of truth. What you described can be applicable to wire transfer only, as I don't know other means of payment that would take 2-3 business days to clear. And even with Bitcoin, you need human authorisation in many transactions, if they are not automatic. So, if it's a holiday time, the receivers would have to wait as well.

What he means is that as long as both parties accept to send and receive funds from each other, there's nothing that can stop it even during holidays because we eat during holidays. Unlike banks that will be shutdown during holidays and people might even need to send funds to their loved ones across boarders. Bitcoin is worldwide and traders and investors will continue moving coins from one wallet to another which is the reason why a new block is mined before or after 10 mins because miners are very active.